It's silly because they don't toss a coin to decide if your ballot is good or not...c'mon.
The election litigation thread
- Thread starter Dutch Oven
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Don't you understand the concept of a thought experiment? It is, by design, a hypothetical intended to illustrate an issue. There are, of course, real world allegations being made about he reliability of the presidential election results. Many of these reliability issues do not, or might not, amount to allegations of fraud. I find that people are reluctant to reconsider their thinking about an issue if it is couched in the particulars of a real world dispute they are invested in, but sometimes can begin to see the other side of the issue more clearly if it is abstracted.
You just have to make big issues on simple ones...this thought experiment is silly.
Everything is simple to those who can't perceive complexity. I had a business partner once who kept telling the people who reported to him how simple their jobs were, despite the fact that he didn't know how to do any of their tasks. None of them worked for him very long, and he still doesn't understand why.
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3 posts to criticize the thought experiment without answering its questions. I'm going to interpret that as a level of discomfort with what the answers were.
Thought experiment for Dutch.
Imagine that Goebbels spread disinformation throughout the US saying the election was a fraud and BLM are all terrorists who want your houses and cars.
Would you dispute it because it was Goebbels and he's dead, or would you post it here because you agree with him?
This is why thought experiments are not your thing. You can't answer one, and you can't compose one.
I'm interested in the litigation, and it's not that close to being over. In fact, the certification of votes just leads to the next step (appointment of electors) and then the next step (vote of the electoral college). The litigation might now even go on past inauguration, certainly past Jan 5 (Georgia run offs). It's curious how often attempts to quash litigation on a peremtory basis often leads to litigation stretching out much longer than it otherwise would have. Given that there are over 1000 views of the thread, it appears that others are interested as well.
Rudy has promised a new Georgia suit this week, and Trump has tweeted that a new "epic" suit will be filed shortly.
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Dutchie didn't give up on James Fields until the guilty plea was read in court.
Since Trump will never admit he lost the popular vote by 6 million, Dutch can keep this one going forever.
Even after Rudy is disbarred and charged for the Hunter Biden nonsense and Trump is in court for fraud.
This is not an issue being raised in the suits, nor is the remedy being requested aligned with the idea that this is the issue in question.
EDIT - Let me clarify. Obviously the exact issue isn't being raised this way because this is a thought experiment.
However, the suits are not saying that there was a systematic error that affected all ballots equally. As far as I know, there has been no such thing alleged in any of the suits.
"There is a systemic error which causes a known (or knowable) number of ballots to be not recorded" is an interesting thing and something audits and checks should be designed to catch. I fully support such work.
Why would this work be done via lawsuit?
If it was suspected to have impacted the election, why is not being alleged?
He's 1-36 so far, Dutch. And he continually alleges and promises all sorts of stuff. So.....
But I don't have to bet the farm on it. I just have to wait and see. And just about every day, there's something new to see.He's 1-36 so far, Dutch. And he continually alleges and promises all sorts of stuff. So.....
Whatever law the courts ultimately decide to apply, it won't be the "law of averages". Law doesn't work that way. You can lose 100 different ways, but if you get what you want by winning once, you win. I suspect that's why so many are still so nervous.
Besides, would anyone expect even the best counsel and best arguments seeking to displace the results of an election to succeed in the lower courts? I wouldn't. SCOTUS will have the last word on these cases, even if to decide not to hear them.
Oh, I don't have to hope the end to this saga will be entertaining, because it will no matter what happens. There might be a little more fun in seeing some TERB members heads explode, but I don't really NEED that, since there's been 4 years of that already, and there will be more of that even if Trump loses emphatically.
Remember, Obi-Wan warned that if Vader struck him down, he would become even more powerful than he could possibly imagine.......
I’m waiting for the entertainment to come when Trump leaves, I mean he’s still there, and it’s not that his sore loser behaviour and embarrassing court loses haven’t been entertaining enough, but Potato Head actually leaving the White House is going to be a pretty ugly event, I can’t wait for that spectacle.
Will you enjoy it if he leaves to the fanfare of his millions of supporters who pledge to continue the MAGA fight, whatever form that may take by that time?
