What do we REALLY know about Covid-19?

[TeeJay]

But she's the Chief Public Health Officer of Canada and she's just now figuring out 3-layer masks are better than 1-layer masks??
And thats 10 months into the pandemic??

Come on, man

I can show you news stories from March & April where she said human to human transmission was "unlikely"

Its not like she has been on the ball since day 1

She also has a massive conflict of interest in that she works for Canada and she works for WHO at same time

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

Clueless would be pretending all masks work equally well. Do you have any quotes where she says all masks have the same efficacy?

She said during one of her news conferences on CP24 that 1-layer masks were ineffective

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

I understand what you are saying, that it just seems logical, but that is not the way science works. Until a definitive study is made on the topic of different types of masks, she cannot make a clear statement on the topic, let alone make a recommendation for 35M people. There are protocols that need to be followed as per the scientific method.

Still shack, when you're dealing with an unknown virus that has just wrecked the entire city of Wuhan, the smart thing to do is mandate masks immediately. Just to be on the safe side. Thats of course assuming she really believes masks will make a difference.

She failed. She closed the barn door after the horse had bolted

 

[Tomoreno]

Some people think that if they explain, dismiss or interpret past events, excuse wrongdoing of any kind, then facts will stop being facts.
They will dismiss all your arguments because you're just dead wrong and will instead claim that only their arguments are valid.
It's very educating to hear that logic doesn't have to make sense or be logical at all.
And just a reminder, this forum is a review board for sex workers. If you want to get religious here, it just shows how confused and misguided you are... nothing will stick to you.

Now go ahead and tell me how I'm always wrong and you're always right... oh wait, it's only God who gets it right 100%.

 

[shack]

Still shack, when you're dealing with an unknown virus that has just wrecked the entire city of Wuhan, the smart thing to do is mandate masks immediately. Just to be on the safe side. Thats of course assuming she really believes masks will make a difference.

She followed the science of the time. Spin it however you like. A true scientist will follow the science everytime and not intuition. It's not hard to understand. Maybe hard to accept.

 

[Phil C. McNasty]

She followed the science of the time. Spin it however you like. A true scientist will follow the science everytime and not intuition. It's not hard to understand. Maybe hard to accept.

Thats bullshit. The Ro of the virus was known back in March (based on data from Wuhan).
If you know the virus is as contagious (or more contagious) as the flu, the smart thing to do is mandate masks right away (like they did in Europe).
Unless of course she didnt think masks would make much difference, and then later flipflopped??

 

[lenny2]

But she's the Chief Public Health Officer of Canada and she's just now figuring out 3-layer masks are better than 1-layer masks??
And thats 10 months into the pandemic??

Come on, man

"The World Health Organization has recommended three layers for non-medical masks since June. When pressed about the sudden change for Canada, Tam said the research has evolved."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/three-layer-mask-tam-1.5787946

Others were recommending them long before June.

To the average John or Jane on the street & street corners that should have been common sense since about the time they were toddlers.

Is a KN95 mask better than a sheet of bum tissue as a mask. Duh.

 

[TeeJay]

She followed the science of the time. Spin it however you like. A true scientist will follow the science everytime and not intuition. It's not hard to understand. Maybe hard to accept.

What you seem to be missing is "the science at the time" was (and still is) deeply divided
She chose the wrong side

 

[Cityside15]

Masks 100000% help prevent the spread of COVID-19. The spread of COVID-19 now is not due to people who are using masks, it is the gatherings and the people who simply can't get it in their head that you should not party like it is 1999... but I digress.....

 

[TeeJay]

Masks 100000% help prevent the spread of COVID-19. The spread of COVID-19 now is not due to people who are using masks, it is the gatherings and the people who simply can't get it in their head that you should not party like it is 1999... but I digress.....

Ah that's nonsense and should be obvious to even the biggest covidiot

None of the anti-maskers are catching the virus despite never wearing masks
Majority (by far, its over 80%) of people with the virus are those who religiously wear masks and wipe down every surface they come in contact with

Even in your scenario; if I have Covid and refuse to wear a mask and you meet me on the street why is your social distancing + mask wearing not protecting you from me?

You NEED an N95 mask to be safe. Period.
Multi-layer mask with a filter can reduce transmission
Normal junk masks you see the covidiots wearing do nothing to prevent catching or spreading the virus

 

[Cityside15]

Ah that's nonsense and should be obvious to even the biggest covidiot

None of the anti-maskers are catching the virus despite never wearing masks
Majority (by far, its over 80%) of people with the virus are those who religiously wear masks and wipe down every surface they come in contact with

Even in your scenario; if I have Covid and refuse to wear a mask and you meet me on the street why is your social distancing + mask wearing not protecting you from me?

You NEED an N95 mask to be safe. Period.
Multi-layer mask with a filter can reduce transmission
Normal junk masks you see the covidiots wearing do nothing to prevent catching or spreading the virus

You pull this info out of your ass.......... #fakenews

Just read the studies by scientists, not socialmediasts......

Unbelievable the level of stupidity out there!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TeeJay]

You pull this info out of your ass.......... #fakenews

Just read the studies by scientists, not socialmediasts......

Unbelievable the level of stupidity out there!!!!!!!!!!!

Even Health Canada themselves has come out and said a single layer mask does jack shit
We been laughing about it for weeks now

What source are you attempting to quote as "scientists" (esp since there is NO consensus in the scientific community anyways)

 

[basketcase]

I can show you news stories from March & April where she said human to human transmission was "unlikely"

Its not like she has been on the ball since day 1

She also has a massive conflict of interest in that she works for Canada and she works for WHO at same time

Scientifically illiterate people make me laugh. Your criticism is that she followed the information available at the time instead of using a crystal ball to tell the future.

 

[basketcase]

She said during one of her news conferences on CP24 that 1-layer masks were ineffective

Show me the quote please.

But funny to see a guy posting endlessly about masks not working is suddenly backing a statement saying some masks are better than others.

 

[basketcase]

Still shack, when you're dealing with an unknown virus that has just wrecked the entire city of Wuhan, the smart thing to do is mandate masks immediately. Just to be on the safe side. ...

So the virus is unknown but you somehow knew it was transmitted by aerosols? Plenty of things that could be done "just to be safe" including as complete lockdown of the country. Is the idea of making decisions based on evidence too scary for you?

 

[basketcase]

Some people think that if they explain, dismiss or interpret past events, excuse wrongdoing of any kind, then facts will stop being facts.
...

Some people misinterpret science to pretend we aren't continually discovering new things. if you'd rather stick with facts from the past, I'm sure there are some Amish communities you could join.

 

[basketcase]

Thats bullshit. The Ro of the virus was known back in March (based on data from Wuhan).
...

But not the method of transmission.

Again, funny to see you criticize Tam for not recommending masks earlier while continuing to pretend masks don't work.

 

[basketcase]

What you seem to be missing is "the science at the time" was (and still is) deeply divided
She chose the wrong side

If you think "divided" means the 0.01% who think demon sperm is the problem.

 

[basketcase]

Ah that's nonsense...

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/herald-review.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/9/9d/99d896b1-03c1-5fc7-8a8e-bad97445fcc6/5ef5fc4da633e.image.jpg?resize=1024%2C885

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUO6JDdXkAEuoWu.jpg

Shows a pretty clear correlation. So does a comparison of the case rate growth in Canada during the first wave and now.

 

[shack]

Thats bullshit. The Ro of the virus was known back in March (based on data from Wuhan).
If you know the virus is as contagious (or more contagious) as the flu, the smart thing to do is mandate masks right away (like they did in Europe).
Unless of course she didnt think masks would make much difference, and then later flipflopped??

You are making suppositions (not necessarily wrong) but that is not how science works. I believe that you condemned China for their dishonesty back then. Do you now want us to accept data from China. Pretty selective on your part.

In hindsight, she was wrong for the 1st month but correct for the last 8 or 9 months. Do you agree with that statement?