Is it me or has the offering in the region gone down the tube

[solo223]

i know i was out of the game for a bit, but 2 or 3 years ago, there was a lot of quality SP's. Now it seems to have been diluted to a trickle. I find it hard to book and the prices are like 50% to 100% higher. I've seen some trying to milk in the 400 to 500 an hour, i guess that didn't quite work out for some as they've taken the prices back down to a more 'reasonable' level.

Back a few years, i had not trouble booking at a reasonable price range, now it's just crazy....seems to me this could be counterproductive. Just my 2 cents.

 

[carlos12345]

i know i was out of the game for a bit, but 2 or 3 years ago, there was a lot of quality SP's. Now it seems to have been diluted to a trickle. I find it hard to book and the prices are like 50% to 100% higher. I've seen some trying to milk in the 400 to 500 an hour, i guess that didn't quite work out for some as they've taken the prices back down to a more 'reasonable' level.

Back a few years, i had not trouble booking at a reasonable price range, now it's just crazy....seems to me this could be counterproductive. Just my 2 cents.

Preach brother!! Preach! I feel the exact same way. May have to call it quits to this hobby if this trend continues .

 

[Hucknall]

This was discussed here in a thread last year into this one:

https://terb.cc/xenforo/threads/what-happened-tp-the-ottawa-scene.699182/

Things haven't changed in Ottawa.

 

[Alison_xox]

What is reasonable ?
I am asking because everybody’s reasonable’s not the same..

 

[Napking]

many have good price of 240 and lower its the service the problem its hard to book reasonnable sps with good service

 

[solo223]

What is reasonable ?
I am asking because everybody’s reasonable’s not the same..

reasonable? sure it depends on a lot of people's viewpoint. It also depends on texted services delivered or not. Used to be 200-240 could be had with a good service, nowadays one needs pay upwards of 300 or higher and still get a crappy deal. I've experienced it even after making my due diligence....one gets burned a couple of time over time, shit happens. It just seems harder. And it's not a 'we click or not' type of thing. I get along with pretty much everyone and even when i get shortchanged, i keep my peace even though i may feel like i've been had. It's so bad now, i tend to wait for a visit from my Mtl provider with whom i have a great business relationship. It's just not often as i'd like.

 

[guerilla]

I saw isabelle french konexion last week, $140 for half hour

https://twitter.com/Isabell73093076

Saw leeleemiko on friday, $120 half hour

https://twitter.com/mimikoko369

Might be seeing katrina pink doll in a couple of weeks

https://twitter.com/pink__dolll

It hasn't been that bad for me but it's definitely not the same as it was when I started back in 2016. Backpage was awesome

 

[Respect1]

What is reasonable ?
I am asking because everybody’s reasonable’s not the same..

The avg rate I see is 240 to 260 hr for FS , includes everything except anal .

Lots of good girls out there in that range .

 

[BeenThereB4]

Just a couple of years ago, there was no shortage in good SPs within the range of 200-240/h. Now girls without much experience (mostly ex-MAs), provide a very average service, call themselves "upscale / elite" and charge 400$/hour and more.
I don't argue about the price. They can charge whatever they want and good for them if they find clients willing to pay. My point is that there is a huge difference in the service. Booking SP that charges 300$/h was like the business class experience: top notch girls, top notch service and a ride to remember...nowadays not much

 

[StillROAMing]

Like it or not, Ottawa is now an MA city. Good for the MA guys, and those who see both, but not good for SP only guys. I don't dwell on it. I just keep putting one foot in front of the other, and enjoy what I can.

 

[solo223]

Just a couple of years ago, there was no shortage in good SPs within the range of 200-240/h. Now girls without much experience (mostly ex-MAs), provide a very average service, call themselves "upscale / elite" and charge 400$/hour and more.
I don't argue about the price. They can charge whatever they want and good for them if they find clients willing to pay. My point is that there is a huge difference in the service. Booking SP that charges 300$/h was like the business class experience: top notch girls, top notch service and a ride to remember...nowadays not much

Can't argue with that. It's exactly what i've been thinking. Some SP's i used to see at 220-240 now charge 400 or more. I saw one OIC girl trying that rate of 400+, it didn't seem to work because she's back at offering her previous rates. Guys can only take so much. And really, they price out a lot of guys. Anyway, it's their business model...every time i check someone out and i see 400 or 500, i shake my head in dismay

 

[OttawaDude6969]

Just a couple of years ago, there was no shortage in good SPs within the range of 200-240/h. Now girls without much experience (mostly ex-MAs), provide a very average service, call themselves "upscale / elite" and charge 400$/hour and more.
I don't argue about the price. They can charge whatever they want and good for them if they find clients willing to pay. My point is that there is a huge difference in the service. Booking SP that charges 300$/h was like the business class experience: top notch girls, top notch service and a ride to remember...nowadays not much

Extractly.

Do not ever argue price with anyone publicly. There must be a market for high rollers in Ottawa but not terb people.

 

[ricco_o]

I will point out that other cities are doing fine, and Ottawa is wealthy, and so it should have no trouble supporting things.
A couple years ago some guys got together and started with a review sheet and almost a religious-like following for getting info from providers... Could that have anything to do with it? Naaaaw Cause like a provider wouldn't name her annoyance with one of these guys in her ad would she? Ooops.

 

[asuran]

I will point out that other cities are doing fine, and Ottawa is wealthy, and so it should have no trouble supporting things.
A couple years ago some guys got together and started with a review sheet and almost a religious-like following for getting info from providers... Could that have anything to do with it? Naaaaw Cause like a provider wouldn't name her annoyance with one of these guys in her ad would she? Ooops.
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Is it a coincidence that the trend took a turn for the worse when certain someone came around and forced his 'ideas' on the board?
Definitely did not make things better.

 

[JohnnyFever]

A lot of government workers in Ottawa with safe union jobs, clearing six figure salaries and able to book off afternoons when they need to. That's a stable supply of guys willing to spend $400+ an hour, even during a pandemic lockdown. Established providers don't need to cater to the johns looking for $200 an hour fun.

It's kind of funny when you think of how much taxpayer money goes into the local sex industry.

 

[solo223]

A lot of government workers in Ottawa with safe union jobs, clearing six figure salaries and able to book off afternoons when they need to. That's a stable supply of guys willing to spend $400+ an hour, even during a pandemic lockdown. Established providers don't need to cater to the johns looking for $200 an hour fun.

It's kind of funny when you think of how much taxpayer money goes into the local sex industry.

i think you vastly overstated how many government workers clear six figures, the majority do much less than that. 100k plus, you are talking about executive level jobs, managers, directors, DG's, financial analysts probably half of that lot being women.

 

[KTDoy]

i think you vastly overstated how many government workers clear six figures, the majority do much less than that. 100k plus, you are talking about executive level jobs, managers, directors, DG's, financial analysts probably half of that lot being women.

If you are talking professional level and not the service level , you are not entirely correct. With raise almost every year at 1-3 percents, the wages have caught up to the private industry. I have many friends in there making high 90k close to 100K after moving in from hi-tech 5-10 years ago. Yes you have to be at mgmt level to break 100k usually but the raise and the bonus (yes there is bonus in government), have pushed the salary to another level. My nephew just got a job in there as an engineer and he started at 70K already. 15-20 years ago the starting salary for his level is probably at the mid 30K.

Everything has gone up including this hobby.

 

[westcityside]

My reasons for leaving escorting include:
1.) COVID I refuse to play roulette with people's lives. I dont want it on my conscience.
2.) The hobby has died down significantly due to COVID. On both sides.
3.) Its just not profitable enough to be a fulltime escort currently. With the extra supplies and smaller clientele, Id have to skyrocket my rates just to maintain a profit margin which is likely what your now seeing from other providers.
4.) Im tired of dealing with guys who dont see past their dick. 2am, 3am texts, or hey babe u avail.
5.) The OIC refuses to look beyond a membership. Lets just stick a pin there I could go over so much but Id rather not waste my words on actual shit.
6.) I have other employment to rely on as a source of income. So Im not going to take days off for this profession when its less profitable.
7.) Incalls are dropping like flies I know at least two providers debating letting go of their incalls to join a spa.

In closing go see your local girls many of them would be happy to see you. Or you can keep watching them leave for other endeavors and raising rates and then wonder why.

I had no idea that everything had died down that much, if you look at Twitter, LL and this board it appears everything is back to normal. Driving past one of the ATPS locations on a regular basis I see the regular amount of cars out front too. The industry has done a good job of making it look like things are back to normal again. Glad to hear you have another income stream Kay and are doing well, and thank you for your insight.

 

[Nesbot]

A lot of government workers in Ottawa with safe union jobs, clearing six figure salaries and able to book off afternoons when they need to. That's a stable supply of guys willing to spend $400+ an hour, even during a pandemic lockdown. Established providers don't need to cater to the johns looking for $200 an hour fun.

It's kind of funny when you think of how much taxpayer money goes into the local sex industry.

The implication here is that these people aren’t working for their salary but are squandering tax payer dollars on high priced providers.

I’m willing to wager that if you are earning a six figure salary, you probably had to work hard at one point or another to get there.

I am thankful for these people because they attract the out of town ladies and keep the existing ones in business. Albeit a lot less lately.

 

[solo223]

My reasons for leaving escorting include:
1.) COVID I refuse to play roulette with people's lives. I dont want it on my conscience.
2.) The hobby has died down significantly due to COVID. On both sides.
3.) Its just not profitable enough to be a fulltime escort currently. With the extra supplies and smaller clientele, Id have to skyrocket my rates just to maintain a profit margin which is likely what your now seeing from other providers.
4.) Im tired of dealing with guys who dont see past their dick. 2am, 3am texts, or hey babe u avail.
5.) The OIC refuses to look beyond a membership. Lets just stick a pin there I could go over so much but Id rather not waste my words on actual shit.
6.) I have other employment to rely on as a source of income. So Im not going to take days off for this profession when its less profitable.
7.) Incalls are dropping like flies I know at least two providers debating letting go of their incalls to join a spa.

In closing go see your local girls many of them would be happy to see you. Or you can keep watching them leave for other endeavors and raising rates and then wonder why.

i'd love to see my locals but i could drive out to Mtl, go see the fine girls they have there on incalls for 200-240 and still come out ahead.

Are we seriously blaming Bobbiz and the OIC for the lack of the Ottawa scene?
Um ok then you do you on the other hand there are plenty of reasons women are leaving anf some of it has to do with the way the Ottawa scene treats providers.
P.S. That list is still there.

My reasons for leaving escorting include:
1.) COVID I refuse to play roulette with people's lives. I dont want it on my conscience.
2.) The hobby has died down significantly due to COVID. On both sides.
3.) Its just not profitable enough to be a fulltime escort currently. With the extra supplies and smaller clientele, Id have to skyrocket my rates just to maintain a profit margin which is likely what your now seeing from other providers.
4.) Im tired of dealing with guys who dont see past their dick. 2am, 3am texts, or hey babe u avail.
5.) The OIC refuses to look beyond a membership. Lets just stick a pin there I could go over so much but Id rather not waste my words on actual shit.
6.) I have other employment to rely on as a source of income. So Im not going to take days off for this profession when its less profitable.
7.) Incalls are dropping like flies I know at least two providers debating letting go of their incalls to join a spa.

In closing go see your local girls many of them would be happy to see you. Or you can keep watching them leave for other endeavors and raising rates and then wonder why.

i'd love to know who these girls are because i have not been able to see

If you are talking professional level and not the service level , you are not entirely correct. With raise almost every year at 1-3 percents, the wages have caught up to the private industry. I have many friends in there making high 90k close to 100K after moving in from hi-tech 5-10 years ago. Yes you have to be at mgmt level to break 100k usually but the raise and the bonus (yes there is bonus in government), have pushed the salary to another level. My nephew just got a job in there as an engineer and he started at 70K already. 15-20 years ago the starting salary for his level is probably at the mid 30K.

Everything has gone up including this hobby.

performance bonuses are at management level. I know, i work in finance. While you and I may know 'many' people who may clock more, it doesn't make it a majority. And many of these positions are filled with women, who admitted do not partake in this industry.