Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg dead at 87

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Amy Coney Barrett.
 

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is Canada going to get abortion tourism?
 

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This is so 2020 FFS
 

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RIP. One of the greats.

So..... Trump rushes an appointment through the Senate to please his base and creates a huge Dem moderate voter backlash. A forced-through anti-abortion USSC appointment just before an election will force out millions of moderate voters into the Dem camp.

Or Trump sits on the appointment and pisses off his base.

In immediate political terms a tactical dilemma for the GOP. If an additional anti abortion justice is immediately appointed to the USSC, a long-term political and constitutional disaster for a country which is becoming more liberal on social issues and which will increasingly feel held to ransom by its conservative, religious minority.
 

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RIP. One of the greats.

So..... Trump rushes an appointment through the Senate to please his base and creates a huge Dem moderate voter backlash. A forced-through anti-abortion USSC appointment just before an election will force out millions of moderate voters into the Dem camp.

Or Trump sits on the appointment and pisses off his base.

In immediate political terms a tactical dilemma for the GOP. If an additional anti abortion justice is immediately appointed to the USSC, a long-term political and constitutional disaster for a country which is becoming more liberal on social issues and which will increasingly feel held to ransom by its conservative, religious minority.
She was great.

This is where I don't know enough of US politics, is there enough time for him to actually ram through a judge with the limited senate time left?
Or can he do it between the election and Biden being sworn in?
 

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RIP. One of the greats.

So..... Trump rushes an appointment through the Senate to please his base and creates a huge Dem moderate voter backlash. A forced-through anti-abortion USSC appointment just before an election will force out millions of moderate voters into the Dem camp.

Or Trump sits on the appointment and pisses off his base.

In immediate political terms a tactical dilemma for the GOP. If an additional anti abortion justice is immediately appointed to the USSC, a long-term political and constitutional disaster for a country which is becoming more liberal on social issues and which will increasingly feel held to ransom by its conservative, religious minority.
Objectively.

Either Mitch pushes this to finish his agenda knowing Trump is going to lose.

Or they use this to make the election about the pick and not Covid (or to lessen it's impact). It will stiffen the church vote big time.

On a personal note this is a great loss.
 

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She was great.

This is where I don't know enough of US politics, is there enough time for him to actually ram through a judge with the limited senate time left?
Or can he do it between the election and Biden being sworn in?
They will certainly try.

Trump is already planning to challenge the election results in court if he loses...If the GOP can stack the court with conservative justices before the election there is an excellent chance the SCOTUS will appoint him to a 2nd term.
 

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They will certainly try.

Trump is already planning to challenge the election results in court if he loses...If the GOP can stack the court with conservative justices before the election there is an excellent chance the SCOTUS will appoint him to a 2nd term.
I wonder if they would be able to ram it through in time to count for the election.
According to the Congressional Research Service it takes an average of nearly 70 days for a Supreme Court nomination to be confirmed from the time they are nominated. That would put a confirmation vote on Ginsburg's successor, if Republicans move forward, during the end-of-year lame duck session.

This election keeps getting crazier.
 
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Following the February 2016 death of Associate Justice of the Supreme Court Antonin Scalia, President Obama nominated Merrick Garland to fill Scalia's seat on the Supreme Court. After the death of Scalia, Republican Senate leaders announced that they planned to hold no vote on any potential nomination during the president's last year in office.[9] Senate Democrats responded that there was sufficient time to vote on a nominee before the election.[ The nomination remained before the Senate for 293 days


That August, McConnell, who played an instrumental role in keeping Merrick Garland from filling Scalia's vacant seat, heralded the party's uncompromising intransigence by declaring to a crowd in Kentucky, "One of my proudest moments was when I looked at Barack Obama in the eye and I said, 'Mr. President, you will not fill the Supreme Court vacancy.'"[23][24][25]

McConnell later admitted that the "rule" he invented was not actually grounded in custom or precedent, but rather a principle he came up with for political expediency.[26]
 
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Did the senate not prevent Obama from appointing a supreme judge 6 month before the election?
It was in fact a year before the election. McConnell insisted at the time that a Supreme Court appointment should not occur in an election year as the people need to have their voices heard prior to an appointment of such significance.

He has already made it clear that he has no intention of following his own precedent.
 

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This is turning into a perfect storm for a civil war.
McConnell is likely figuring out its worth trying to ram in one more Trump judge to let him steal the election vs knowing that if it doesn't work that the dems will pack the court and just add more judges to the SC to get back the majority in a more major way.

Either way, it stands to make this election really messy.
The only good news is that all the polls are really still showing that there are only 3% of undecided voters and Trump is still unable to get past his 42% base.
So its all about the GOP stealing votes, voter intimidation and fucking up the postal system even more.
 

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Following the February 2016 death of Associate Justice of the Supreme Court Antonin Scalia, President Obama nominated Merrick Garland to fill Scalia's seat on the Supreme Court. After the death of Scalia, Republican Senate leaders announced that they planned to hold no vote on any potential nomination during the president's last year in office.[9] Senate Democrats responded that there was sufficient time to vote on a nominee before the election.[ The nomination remained before the Senate for 293 days


That August, McConnell, who played an instrumental role in keeping Merrick Garland from filling Scalia's vacant seat, heralded the party's uncompromising intransigence by declaring to a crowd in Kentucky, "One of my proudest moments was when I looked at Barack Obama in the eye and I said, 'Mr. President, you will not fill the Supreme Court vacancy.'"[23][24][25]

McConnell later admitted that the "rule" he invented was not actually grounded in custom or precedent, but rather a principle he came up with for political expediency.[26]
And? Whats your point? Mitch is a hypocrite, so what. Not like Pelosi was hyping covid to be the Black Plague preaching about masks all the goddamn time. then she goes to a fucking hair salon (MASKLESS) for her regular blowout willy nilly.

Hypocrisy either matters, or it doesn't. The left has made it clear it doesn't.
 
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