Despite what conservatives think, Black Lives Matter is an inherently spiritual movement

[Dutch Oven]

Only if your "truth" is based upon alternative facts and not objective facts or reality. The chosen one is intentionally stoking fear and racism because he know his base and demographic and because sadly it works.

I'll prefer my version of truth over the version that pretends that opposing BLM rioters is racist, when those rioters appear to be 90%+ white.

 

[Dcoat]

Only if your "truth" is based upon alternative facts and not objective facts or reality. The chosen one is intentionally stoking fear and racism because he know his base and demographic and because sadly it works.

I can name a dozen very effective reforms this chosen one has moved (agains the wishes of the democrats btw) to lift up blacks in the US. Can you name any that the previous chosen one did for his own people?

 

[toguy5252]

The point was that every group has a claim to social justice, most are opposed to others seeking justice for themselves, yet few resort to 'reparations' agains the majority or as in this case against others in their own class through looting and mass destruction of life and property. Even fewer demand the overthrow of the society in which they have settled. BLM seems to be doing all of that.

BLM is not looting etc. For the most part their demonstrations are peaceful. Yes there a number of outliers but they are not representative of the movement. If you don't want to accept facts from the police there is really no point in continuing. And yes although there are any groups promoting their view of social justice the social justice being sought by white nationalists is based upon a racist ideology so no I do this there is any moral equivalency at all.

 

[Frankfooter]

BLM is nothing more than a PSYOP to create division between races and classes for no reason other than to push a political agenda.
Truth is the game was rigged from the start.

Well, score then is 0 fo Putin and 1 for BLM.
Since BLM are way more popular than Trump is in the US.
And globally even Putin is more popular than Trump.

 

[toguy5252]

I'll prefer my version of truth over the version that pretends that opposing BLM rioters is racist, when those rioters appear to be 90%+ white.

There are many white looters etc but even if there were none the fact that there are some black looters does not make all blacks looters. That is the definition of racism which your fearless leader is promoting.

 

[toguy5252]

I can name a dozen very effective reforms this chosen one has moved (agains the wishes of the democrats btw) to lift up blacks in the US. Can you name any that the previous chosen one did for his own people?

Perhaps start with 1.

 

[Dcoat]

BLM is not looting etc. For the most part their demonstrations are peaceful. Yes there a number of outliers but they are not representative of the movement. If you don't want to accept facts from the police there is really no point in continuing. And yes although there are any groups promoting their view of social justice the social justice being sought by white nationalists is based upon a racist ideology so no I do this there is any moral equivalency at all.

Reparations are they way BLM leadership referred to supportive looters, while she was demonstrating her support for those who'd been arrested.

Column: Reparations are about economic stability, not a looted pair of $120 Nikes

There simply is no reasonable way to equate felony burglary with social justice reform, Dahleen Glanton writes.

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[Dcoat]

There are many white looters etc but even if there were none the fact that there are some black looters does not make all blacks looters. That is the definition of racism which your fearless leader is promoting.

I just sent you a quote from the BLM leadership. But my fundamental problem with BLM is that they too are racist (and anarchist). No justice for anyone other than blacks. A division of people, those who deserve justice, and others, based purely on race or skin colour.

 

[toguy5252]

93% of BLM protest are peaceful regardless of what anyone tweets.

 

[toguy5252]

I just sent you a quote from the BLM leadership. But my fundamental problem with BLM is that they too are racist (and anarchist). No justice for anyone other than blacks. A division of people, those who deserve justice, and others, based purely on race or skin colour.

If that what you take from the movement then you misunderstand the movement.

 

[Dcoat]

Perhaps start with 1.

First Step and Second Chance. Both programs that disproportionately help black men.

 

[Dcoat]

93% of BLM protest are peaceful regardless of what anyone tweets.

OK, 90 % of Gremans were uninvolved in killing Jews.

It's the leadership that carves the path for the followers, ALL followers. The above statement is a leadership statement that was not only not disavowed, but was supported by political leadership as well.

 

[Dcoat]

OK, 90 % of Gremans were uninvolved in killing Jews.

It's the leadership that carves the path for the followers, ALL followers. The above statement is a leadership statement that was not only not disavowed, but was supported by political leadership as well.

BTW

If that what you take from the movement then you misunderstand the movement.

BTW I haven't seen that you've disavowed the reparations comment or activity either.

 

[toguy5252]

First Step and Second Chance. Both programs that disproportionately help black men.

He signed the First Step Act which was passed by the congress with bi-partisan support. It also reauthorized the Second Chance Act which was passed in 209.

Is that the best you can do?

 

[The Oracle]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1305885850983706624

Black folks are seeing through the veils of hypocrisy associated with BLM.

 

[Frankfooter]

OK, 90 % of Gremans were uninvolved in killing Jews.

Are you suggesting that all Germans should have been punished for Nazi war crimes?
You don't believe in just punishing those guilty?

And you also believe that all supporters of BLM should be punished for those who instigate violence or looting regardless of whether its BLM, antifa or white supremacists?

 

[Boober69]

BLM is not looting etc. For the most part their demonstrations are peaceful. Yes there a number of outliers but they are not representative of the movement. If you don't want to accept facts from the police there is really no point in continuing. And yes although there are any groups promoting their view of social justice the social justice being sought by white nationalists is based upon a racist ideology so no I do this there is any moral equivalency at all.

BLM never protests against black on black killings. Don't those black lives matter?

 

[The Oracle]

BLM never protests against black on black killings. Don't those black lives matter?

To the BLM crowd the black on black killings are just collateral damage in the big picture to deconstruct society.

Their all about post modernistic Marxism. They always have been but now it's finally raising it's head.

 

[icespot]

People who attack stores of any kind are not protestors they are vandals. Most BLM protest have been peaceful. You seek to tar all BLM members based upon the crimes of a few. I do not.

But that is exactly what BLM has done with the police. They have tar all police officers based upon the crimes if a few.

 

[Dcoat]

Are you suggesting that all Germans should have been punished for Nazi war crimes?
You don't believe in just punishing those guilty?

And you also believe that all supporters of BLM should be punished for those who instigate violence or looting regardless of whether its BLM, antifa or white supremacists?

No. I am saying that leaders make the policy and underlings follow. If underlings don't successfully object, they are painted with the Bruch of their leaders. So, BLM leaders have supported, or at least enabled the behaviours.

Will you denounce the leaders for having done that?