For someone who's never been to a massage parlor...

[Cryptologic]

it is true. at atps, no sf2 at the beginning. you are in the room by yourself for the first 5min00. count as part of your paid time.

if you are looking for something specific go to atps. too many scammers and fake ads on leolist, and lack of reputable agencies, atps replace them...so it is not a surprise that very few atps reviews are available

experience terbies know what to look for and what not to disclose publicly

 

[fall]

experience terbies know what to look for and what not to disclose publicly

And it is related to what I said in mathematical terms

 

[fall]

And I still don't understand it completely.

That was the plan . Given that it is not deleted yet, it seems that moderators (or people who like to report posts to moderators) do not have a math degree

 

[KTDoy]

That was the plan . Given that it is not deleted yet, it seems that moderators (or people who like to report posts to moderators) do not have a math degree

I understand you completely. It is like 1+1 =1

 

[downbound123]

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[Gurney]

it is true. at atps, no sf2 at the beginning. you are in the room by yourself for the first 5min00. count as part of your paid time.

if you are looking for something specific go to atps. too many scammers and fake ads on leolist, and lack of reputable agencies, atps replace them...so it is not a surprise that very few atps reviews are available

experience terbies know what to look for and what not to disclose publicly

I usually experience the same 5 minutes alone at CMJ AND BC. Rarely it is not there. And I cannot say it was in or out my one hour because I usually not a clock watcher myself.
But also rarely saw mi time extend passed what was supposed to be the hour...
So I guess I was ripped of some of my time most of the time.

But if the encounter was above average, I'm not regarding the 5 or 10 minutes missing. Maybe I should not let it go...

At ATPS AND ALO, I rarely had a SF2. And it did happens a few time at CMJ too...

 

[itd131]

This thread is hilarious.

Getting back to the original question - it's more about the MA than the spa. Thinking about where my favourites have worked over the years - Over half have worked at AT/PS. Over half have worked at ALO. Most have been indie at some point. Many have done stints at CMJ, BC, Vibe or places on the Quebec side (not to mention other spas that no longer exist). Many ladies change locations and I can say from experience it really has made no difference where they worked. Again, it's the MA, not the spa.

As far as in room facilities, I'm sure some will disagree but I would say AT/PS is the best, followed closely by BC, CMJ, Vibe. ALO is a step lower as far as rooms go but their loyalty program is the best in the city.

You can find great ladies anywhere. You can also have a subpar session anywhere. Best advice is to do a little homework.

 

[fall]

Fall, your statement is wrong though. There is cardinality in the intersection of the set of services provided by attendants at BC, CMJ and AT/PS. SOME of the attendants at AT/PS provide GFE services (i.e. SF2, friendly service, bodyslides) - as well as most at BC and CMJ.

I am sorry, I did not define the term "provide" explicitly. Let's define it a "customary provide". On the other hand, I did not visit AT/PS for at least a year now, (and was not a frequent visitor before as my preferred place is BC), so, maybe their "customary" set of services went down. As one (allowable to mention here) service that is customary at CMJ and BC, but not at AT/PS is DFK, which let me to claim one of the "non-subset" statement. Of course, all my statements are based on my experience

 

[medalllione]

There is cardinality in the intersection of the set of services provided by attendants at BC, CMJ and AT/PS.

I may have missed one too many math classes..What does "cardinality" mean? Dude, you lost me there......

 

[hoffa68]

I've emailed both Brass and CMJ asking for an orientation meeting. Havent heard back from either yet, so kind of wondering how persistent I need to be...

I'm exploring other options too. I know I desperately need to see Paige @ CMJ since of all the photos I've seen she's the one that gets my heart beating faster.

You don't need to be a member at CMJ to visit. You can contact Paige or other MAs directly through Twitter or text. They will be book you in as a guest.

The advantages of a membership ar etou have access to their online booking tool

 

[arejayell]

That was the idea, I suppose.

 

[Yeezy]

@rexscott

You can pm me if you have some specific questions. I didn't have the time to read the whole because I got lost in it somewhere but i'm happy to share some experience with you.

 

[medalllione]

Assuming the axiom of choice, the cardinality of a set X is the least ordinal number α such that there is a bijection between X and α

Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to go take my wheaties......

 

[ottawafitguy]

Just from personal experience. My first visit to PS was one of the best I've ever had at a MP, but it has never even come close to being duplicated. Of probably 6 times I've been there I've had one excellent, one very good (Julia but she was very limited - extremely hot though), and 4 have been downright awful and it is my own fault for continuing to go back. Seen two girls at ALO and neither provided a SF2 or even a decent attempt at upsale. Both were really mediocre.

Went to CMJ after seeing all the positive +1 reviews and have never had a bad experience there. Not that I've been with a ton of girls, but I've never walked out of the place not satisfied with a big smile. So why would I go back to AT/PS and take a chance again?

The MaSeeker list is there for a reason. Use it.

 

[fall]

I've emailed both Brass and CMJ asking for an orientation meeting. Havent heard back from either yet, so kind of wondering how persistent I need to be...

I'm exploring other options too. I know I desperately need to see Paige @ CMJ since of all the photos I've seen she's the one that gets my heart beating faster.

Call BC and ask for the same-day availability. If someone is available, make an appointment and go. I do not know how it is now with COVID, but once you had the original visit, you can do walk-ins anytime and you always have a few decent alternatives to chose from.

 

[rexscott]

OP here - Had my first visit yesterday. With Brass. Was an easier process than I thought. In and out basically. The girl was very nice, sweet, and lovely. We negotiated a price and I enjoyed myself. I even got to do something I'd never done before.

There was only one fee paid, to the girl. No fee to the front desk.

There was one aspect that wasn't available, due to COVID-19, and that did colour my experience. It made it less enjoyable, less intimate, and gave me pause about going back. I guess I'm just SOOL hoping for it during a pandemic. Once there's a cure/vaccine, I can see myself using a club like this more regularly.

 

[westcityside]

OP here - Had my first visit yesterday. With Brass. Was an easier process than I thought. In and out basically. The girl was very nice, sweet, and lovely. We negotiated a price and I enjoyed myself. I even got to do something I'd never done before.

There was only one fee paid, to the girl. No fee to the front desk.

There was one aspect that wasn't available, due to COVID-19, and that did colour my experience. It made it less enjoyable, less intimate, and gave me pause about going back. I guess I'm just SOOL hoping for it during a pandemic. Once there's a cure/vaccine, I can see myself using a club like this more regularly.

Did you make the appointment before you went in or did you decide when you were there? How was the process handled of choosing which lady you saw? Sorry, haven't been there.

 

[rexscott]

Did you make the appointment before you went in or did you decide when you were there? How was the process handled of choosing which lady you saw? Sorry, haven't been there.

I let them know which day I'd be there, but it turns out that didn't matter. It's an intercom system, and you just have to say it's your first time and you're there to register and they'll buzz you in.

They had an elaborate process where they drew curtains around a section of the waiting room. Then one by one the girls there that day come through the curtain to say hi (maybe a hug). then you let the desk girl know which girl you're interested in seeing. I made sure to choose a day that I knew one of the girls I had wanted to see would be in attendance.

 

[rexscott]

OP - had my second visit today. Paradise Spa (in my part of town).

I learn more about what I'm looking for each time I go. I know 60 minutes is too long for my tastes. I know a shower for 2 isn't essential but it is very very nice. I know a bed is nicer than a massage table. I know I like the lights on, not dimmed.