For someone who's never been to a massage parlor...

rexscott

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Namely me, who is strongly considering visiting Paradise Spa and/or joining CMJ... I have a lot of questions. Is there a good thread that clues me in to how things work? (I've only hobbied with escorts til now)
 

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You can do a lot better than those two spas. The girls there rarely will shower with you, some of them don't bodyslide, and the services are often not very friendly. Do some research into the other spas in town and consult the Ottawa MA gfe thread on this board.
Wow... I haven't been to either since Covid hit but I find that surprising. I have been to CMJ for years and have always gotten an SF2 usually before and after the massage. But maybe that is just my stellar personality at work. LOL Paradise I haven't been to that often so can't comment, but there is shall I say a more varied menu at PS/AT.
 

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thanks for the tip about Paradise and AT. Are there agencies you'd recommend that have friendly, GFE girls?
 

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Don't dismiss them, there are plenty of girls there that do very well there.
Correct , I no longer go there because I get better service from indies for less $$ ,, but there are a few that would put some SP,s to shame ,, and others that should not be working there . A lot of the girls ask for Do not review because of the extra services they give .
 
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Guys, should I turn down a bodyslide considering that I am very very hairy? The MA would end up with some of my body hair stuck to her body...
NOOO !! You shouldn’t turn down a body slide for those reasons:
1) Hairy men are the best. So fluffy and soft.
2) Bodyslides are too much fun to avoid
3) A provider should take a shower after each session so who cares about the hair on her body.

Also ,
During the shower , she should mohawk that shag with soap Just because it’s fun.

And .. Never ever ever ever shave your body because it’s everything but comfortable to bodyslide on someone that feels like sandpaper ;)

Embrasse your body hair and remember that some girls loooves it ;)

Kisses
Ali

Oh and ps. I used to work at Paradise and it’s a great spa ;)
 

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Embrasse your body hair and remember that some girls loooves it ;)
Interesting, thanks Alison! I would love to be appreciated by a hairy-body lover. Very few of my lovers (SP or IRL) have really give me the caressing I desire. How would I find the SP's who are honestly into it though? Make a post about it?
 

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NOOO !! You shouldn’t turn down a body slide for those reasons:
1) Hairy men are the best. So fluffy and soft.
2) Bodyslides are too much fun to avoid
3) A provider should take a shower after each session so who cares about the hair on her body.

Also ,
During the shower , she should mohawk that shag with soap Just because it’s fun.

And .. Never ever ever ever shave your body because it’s everything but comfortable to bodyslide on someone that feels like sandpaper ;)

Embrasse your body hair and remember that some girls loooves it ;)

Kisses
Ali

Oh and ps. I used to work at Paradise and it’s a great spa ;)
Love reading your posts all the time , always positive and a pleasure ♥
 

canuckhooker

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I meant to only refer to Paradise and Angel's Touch as having the most restrictive and least friendly services in the city. With them there are two extremes: you pay the standard donation and you are likely to get mechanical uninspired service, or you pay through the nose if you know what I mean.
My bad, I mis-read what you wrote. Covid brain. LOL
 

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Sorry to break the convo up, but At least it is kindof on topic. 😂 . As the OP stated, I’m also in a similar Position, in that I also have not been to an MA so far. I’m still new to the scene..(only 3 months in). So I’ve been curious of trying this.

My question differs a bit though. I haven‘t mapped out location wise , which spa is where in Ottawa. And I’d rather fine one in my end of the woods, that has a high count of the positive gfe votes.

which spa’s fit that, based on that criteria, in west end Ottawa? Ie Nepean area ?
 

rexscott

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which spa’s fit that, based on that criteria, in west end Ottawa? Ie Nepean area ?
I'm west end too. Paradise Spa is 1902 Robertson Rd (Bell's Corner's, near the Giant Tiger), a 10 minute ride from me, it's why I'm interested in it.
 
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rexscott

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OP the numbers speak for themselves...
I've emailed both Brass and CMJ asking for an orientation meeting. Havent heard back from either yet, so kind of wondering how persistent I need to be...

I'm exploring other options too. I know I desperately need to see Paige @ CMJ since of all the photos I've seen she's the one that gets my heart beating faster.
 
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thanks for the tip about Paradise and AT. Are there agencies you'd recommend that have friendly, GFE girls?
BC and CMJ provide very consistent service that, most of the time, include everything except BJ and FS, and there is no extra fees except the fixed price (you may tip the girls a bit if you really like the experience, but it is totally up to you and not an obligation or expectation). The girls are also young and pretty. PS and AT are old-school places with door fee and tips depending on the service. In mathematical terms, the union of the set of services provided in BC&CMJ and in PS&AT is neither the subset of the set of services provided by BC&CMJ nor is the subset of the services provided by PS&AT
 
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Alison_xox

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Whitey-tighty-man

You must work for the Federal Government or something lol.

Since the GFE MA list was refreshed Brass and CMJ blow AT and PS away by far. This is the number of votes in favor of each if you add up the positive votes and subtract the negative votes:

Brass 47 +1 GFE votes

CMJ 73 +1 GFE votes

AT& PS combined +11 GFE votes

If you look at the archived votes the spread is even worse, approximately 9:1.

OP the numbers speak for themselves. If you are looking for friendly service, SF2 and bodyslides your best bet OVERALL, OVERWHELMINGLY is Brass or CMJ. If you want to venture to AT or PS you have to be EXTREMELY selective - and you will probably have to pay extra like Mr. Whiteman has to.
Just a little note that could make you understand why PS & AT are not often mentioned here on Terb.
It’s a lot of girls that prefers no reviews.
I used to be one of them when I was at Paradise.
The reasons are super simple.
1) When you work with a lot of girls it can create a ambiance of jealousy and competition.
In the spas , the mileages can be a source of problem because we all are in a very small lounge waiting for clients to pick you so if you are offering more services you are busy. Imagine a slow day with 10 girls looking at the busy one. I think you get what I mean ;)
2) The spas don’t want to have anything to do with extra services. It’s better to keep it discrete.
3) Some guys review with A LOT of very personal details and girls doesn’t want to have their details everywhere for the other girls to know what’s going on in the room so they can judge you.
4) Most of Ps & At clients are regulars that only goes there so they don’t feel the need to shop online. Therefore, you don’t ear from them online. Believe me , they’re busy spas. I worked there for years ;)
5) New girls get more reviews. Once you are well established, the clients don’t feel the need to review. Paradise and Angel have the good habit to keep their girls for years.
 

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I find that if you touch the girl in the way you want to be touched yourself, then she'll get the hint on how you like to be handled. You want a shoulder rub, give them a shoulder rub. You want a GFE experience, then give them a BFE experience.
I tend to stay away from threads like this because differences in opinion often devolve off topic into sniping with one another as this one is in danger of doing. BUT I also find this topic really interesting.

First, opinion. Rick is obviously analytical, a numbers guy and fair enough. But claiming something is a “fact” such as shower/body slide refusals without any backup does not make it necessarily so - it’s only hearsay.

White seems more interested in the actual ladies and personal experience. I’m not saying this is better than choosing by the numbers but it would be my preference as well.

Something to consider here is that ladies move around, including to independent status such Alison_xox with whom I’ve had the extreme pleasure to be with when she worked at Paradise. So searching this site using a provider’s name may also prove worthwhile.

I also confess I’m now more of an SP person rather than MA but I have had experience at almost all them. It is disappointing to me to see negative posts about PS/AT as my experiences at both were top notch but admittedly I haven’t been to either in a few years so obviously things could have changed.

Another thing I found interesting was the lack of any mention of Vibe in the East end. My experience there was also good and their facilities were also very good, better than ALO’s but again, I haven’t been in a couple of years. In fact, for a thread such as this, I think an assessment of the facilities should be part of the discussion.

Finally a comment on “GFE”. Maseeker’s list is awesome but it is in one’s best interest to first read his definition of GFE. Given this is about MA spas, I completely understand the reasons for his GFE criteria and accept them. However, anyone new to this should understand that the industry definition for GFE is all over the map but generally goes a fair bit beyond the MA definition. Clarification; by “industry” I mean universal which includes providers of all types including SPs.
 

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Which spas have a "mask on at all times" policy? I read on a review that Paradise Spa does. Safety is understandable, but it seriously limits interaction. Not even mentioning kissing, mouth on breasts would even be unavailable.
 

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Which spas have a "mask on at all times" policy? I read on a review that Paradise Spa does. Safety is understandable, but it seriously limits interaction. Not even mentioning kissing, mouth on breasts would even be unavailable.
I have never heard of it mentioned here but Massage at the Market actually seemed pretty sanitary. There was a disposable sheel on the massage bed, mask on all the time for both SP and client, ... gloves (overkill IMO) and hand sanitizer for both..

its the only place ive ever been, but the service was alright I guess, I just would like a girl in her mid 20s but the lady seemed late 30s at best
 
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