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WyattEarp

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You think Covid is going to magically disappear once 2021 comes around ? ?
I was thinking the same thing. If you think there will be a 90+% effective vaccine being widely distributed by the end of the year, that makes sense. What happens if it drags on through much of 2021 until an effective vaccine is available and widely-distributed?

That's why indefinite lockdowns don't seem realistic.
 
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I was thinking the same thing. If you think there will be a 90+% effective vaccine being widely distributed by the end of the year, that makes sense. What happens if it drags on through much of 2021 until an effective vaccine is available and widely-distributed?

That's why indefinite lockdowns don't seem realistic.
You mean "indefinite lockdowns don't appear pleasant or normal", don't you?

If they're the alternative to a rampaging pandemic, they're very "realistic". Just ask Florida or Texas.
 

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You mean "indefinite lockdowns don't appear pleasant or normal", don't you?

If they're the alternative to a rampaging pandemic, they're very "realistic". Just ask Florida or Texas.
The point is they don’t really fix the problem long term. Look at New Zealand they had 0 cases and again they’re reporting new cases pop up. It’s not a long term solution. It’s pretty evident we have to learn to live with this. Lockdowns just push people into bankruptcy, poverty and not much of a future to look forward to.
 

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The point is they don’t really fix the problem long term. Look at New Zealand they had 0 cases and again they’re reporting new cases pop up. It’s not a long term solution. It’s pretty evident we have to learn to live with this. Lockdowns just push people into bankruptcy, poverty and not much of a future to look forward to.
Correct Ubersense they don't.

Lock down should only happen when the virus is so new that there is too many unknowns area (degree of contagion and severity of it) and/or when the situation is getting out of control for the healthcare system (like in many states in the US now...).

I do not think we will go again into lock down in Canada unless we fucked up and do not respect basic rules.
 

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Correct Ubersense they don't.

Lock down should only happen when the virus is so new that there is too many unknowns area (degree of contagion and severity of it) and/or when the situation is getting out of control for the healthcare system (like in many states in the US now...).

I do not think we will go again into lock down in Canada unless we fucked up and do not respect basic rules.
Canada almost carbon copies what America does in terms of health and safety standards and medical standards. It is a good possibility that COVID-19 infections will ramp up and spike in Canada, especially in higher density centres like Toronto, Montral and Vancouver in the fall after school has started and those that commute to work increase in number. Depending on what is the flavour of the month in the US to be copied by Canada, I expect further lockdowns of an already battered economy. Hotel and restaurants face a grim future for what is increasingly not the short term.
 

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Canada almost carbon copies what America does in terms of health and safety standards and medical standards. It is a good possibility that COVID-19 infections will ramp up and spike in Canada, especially in higher density centres like Toronto, Montral and Vancouver in the fall after school has started and those that commute to work increase in number. Depending on what is the flavour of the month in the US to be copied by Canada, I expect further lockdowns of an already battered economy. Hotel and restaurants face a grim future for what is increasingly not the short term.
Hopefully by then they have therapeutics and more hospital capacity to mitigate those issues. And if they do a second lockdown hopefully they’ll do an actual legitimate lockdown second time around that doesn’t drag on for months. Suffice to say CERB will still end in October....who knows though ? Expect the worst; hope for the best.
 

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They need to properly screen anyone who's coming into the country. Especially since air travel is picking up. Ideally, they'd put a GPS tracking device on these people for 14 days after entering Canada. If they stray during that time period, give them a hefty fine. They already do this in another country. Can't remember which one though.
 

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They need to properly screen anyone who's coming into the country. Especially since air travel is picking up. Ideally, they'd put a GPS tracking device on these people for 14 days after entering Canada. If they stray during that time period, give them a hefty fine. They already do this in another country. Can't remember which one though.
The problem is every country is considering foreigners as “these people”. Every country is now xenophobic and some countries boast of superiority at their control of the virus until they get humbled. Hong Kong was using GPS before and had relatively low Covid-19 cases and now has a major outbreak. America is the number one Covid-19 virus population, our neighbour! This virus is simply against human nature and behaviour unless one is a hermit. The world cannot remain on lockdown, the virus has to work itself through the world’s population.
 
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The problem is every country is considering foreigners as “these people”. Every country is now xenophobic and some countries boast of superiority at their control of the virus until they get humbled. Hong Kong was using GPS before and had relatively low Covid-19 cases and now has a major outbreak. America is the number one Covid-19 virus population, our neighbour! This virus is simply against human nature and behaviour unless one is a hermit. The world cannot remain on lockdown, the virus has to work itself through the world’s population.
This!
 

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Canada almost carbon copies what America does in terms of health and safety standards and medical standards. It is a good possibility that COVID-19 infections will ramp up and spike in Canada, especially in higher density centres like Toronto, Montral and Vancouver in the fall after school has started and those that commute to work increase in number. Depending on what is the flavour of the month in the US to be copied by Canada, I expect further lockdowns of an already battered economy. Hotel and restaurants face a grim future for what is increasingly not the short term.
Wait what????? Canada got it right. America, as the USA, fucked it up big fucking time!!!!! We did not carbon copy shit of what the US did. That's why very honestly the situation is so bad in the US they should right now go back in 6 weeks confinement like we did (at least in Quebec) to get the situation in control. It's the US that should have carbon copy what we did. But with the Trumpet in the lead no way that would have happened.

Cheers,
 
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The point is they don’t really fix the problem long term. Look at New Zealand they had 0 cases and again they’re reporting new cases pop up. It’s not a long term solution....
It would be if every country followed reasonable precautions (at the same time).
 
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