Hey Right Wingers, You Missed One!

[jcpro]

Probably an argument over a crack.pipe or something.

 

[doggystyle99]

The numbers in T.O. dont show a conspiracy though.....maybe try again?

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Where did you get these numbers from?
What’s the link?
Do they represent a percentage or per million?
What year is this from?

Either as a percentage or per million those numbers are not a representative Of the actual numbers.

The first row “carried a weapon in public” equates to 134.2.
As a percentage that would be wrong and as a per million that would be wrong.

 

[fall]

This logic is true but let's assume for a moment your numbers are correct - that means if you pass by 10,000 white guys in union station, 4 might be killers. 10,000 black guys, 10 might be killers. Thus the 9,990 innocents might not be happy about this. Thus the law of small numbers mitigates the size too from a practical POV. But I'm all for facts, wherever they land. That's the first step toward good decision making. And I've seen left and right put out bullshit. Enough!

Of course it is not fair for the innocent. But when it comes to police dealing with suspected criminals or a bunch of guys with sleeveless t-shorts late at night, the unconditional probability that theses guys are violent increases a lot. Assuming it increases in the same proportions for white and black, you may face that unconditional (i.e., regardless of the race) probability of violence be about 5%. Now these conditional probabilities matter a lot and may be the difference between life and dearth. Noone see police going up to black dudes on the street and beating them up. It is when the suspect resist arrest, more force is used against black guys because now this conditional probability is important a lot.

The question is: what should we do to make sure the 99% of law-abiding black people do not suffer from this racial profiling. It seams that current media support the view of "abandon racial profiling". But racial profiling is rational and saves lives. Te only way to help 99% of law-abiding blacks is to eliminate the reason for racial profiling, i.e., to make the conditional (on race) probability of being violent criminals to be the same among whites and black. There are two ways to do it: have more white people commit crimes or have less black people commit crimes. I, personally, think the latter is the way to go. So, black communicates must work with police to help[ catch criminals, BLM must go into black communities and protest against violence their. During BLM protests, BLM shoudl identify violent protesters who damage properties, document it, turn them to police, and demand harsh punishment.

 

[Charlemagne]

Of course it is not fair for the innocent. But when it comes to police dealing with suspected criminals or a bunch of guys with sleeveless t-shorts late at night, the unconditional probability that theses guys are violent increases a lot. Assuming it increases in the same proportions for white and black, you may face that unconditional (i.e., regardless of the race) probability of violence be about 5%. Now these conditional probabilities matter a lot and may be the difference between life and dearth. Noone see police going up to black dudes on the street and beating them up. It is when the suspect resist arrest, more force is used against black guys because now this conditional probability is important a lot.

The question is: what should we do to make sure the 99% of law-abiding black people do not suffer from this racial profiling. It seams that current media support the view of "abandon racial profiling". But racial profiling is rational and saves lives. Te only way to help 99% of law-abiding blacks is to eliminate the reason for racial profiling, i.e., to make the conditional (on race) probability of being violent criminals to be the same among whites and black. There are two ways to do it: have more white people commit crimes or have less black people commit crimes. I, personally, think the latter is the way to go. So, black communicates must work with police to help[ catch criminals, BLM must go into black communities and protest against violence their. During BLM protests, BLM shoudl identify violent protesters who damage properties, document it, turn them to police, and demand harsh punishment.

I just read your badly worded post lol. I just laughed because I can tell that you've never seen how police really interact with black men, nor have you ever been to the hood.

There is no evidence that racial profiling saves lives or stops crime. It allows police to have preferential treatment in who they choose to arrest and charge, despite statistics on things like drug crime.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

In Right Wing world, only People of Colour commit crimes.

This is irrefutable proof you have no clue.