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RCMP goons attack First nations Chief - Video

basketcase

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Not sure what the cop told him. But firstly he was on private property, so a) you cannot issue a charge of driving with an expired permit on private property.
Unless they witnessed him driving on the way to the private property.

Cops are allowed to use force to subdue a suspect but in this and many cases, they went further than needed because that's what they system trained them to do (like the way some cops have been trained to yell "stop resisting" as an excuse to continue beating on the guy).
 

basketcase

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Not to mention the chiefs keep money they are supposed to distribute to people on the reserves and for improvements to the reserves.
Some are pretty good. There are a couple reserves with some of the higher earning postal codes in the country. Other are corrupt.
 

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Yes the Chief may have abused them or challanged them verbally, but for these goons to allow this situation to escelate and then charge and punch this guy when he was down in criminal. I am utterly disgusted by the criminal and incredibly unprofessional actions of these scumbags.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rcmp-chief-allan-adam-1.5608472
I think you and I watched completely different videos. The only thing I find utterly disgusting here is the disrespect for the law in the video and your opinion in this post.

BD
 

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Chief got what he deserved. He wanted a fight and got one.Now he is crying about it. He was a passenger and should have just shut the fuck up. The first officer tried to calm him down and he just kept shooting his mouth off. When the chief came around the back of the truck in an aggressive manner the second cop took him down as I bet he felt the 1st cop was in danger. Did the first officer send out a distress call and that's why the second cop acted the way he did?
I watched the 12 minute video on The Globe and Mail.
+1 yip, chief deserved what he got. He was the aggressor from the start. It cant be easy at all having to deal with drunken and abusive slobs. Quit ya bitchin and shut the f up chief. .
 

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My wife brought the video up today in discussion. She sides with the Chief and that the RCMP officer was too aggressive. Blows my mind. I can't understand why people side with the Chief.
 

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I don't really side with any of them.

The first cop took too long to subdue the chief. He should have done so right away in my opinion. I respect he was trying to play nice and give the chief a chance to calm down but when the chief is so aggressive, he should have just cuffed him right away and then dealt with the wife.

The chief is an asshole.

The wife should have done more to calm down her hubby and insist she deals with the officer since she was driving.

The second cop just showed up and tackled the chief. I say he was too quick on the draw and should have waited a few seconds to assess the situation better. I also don't think that type of tackle is needed. He could have walked up and lent a hand in the arrest.

I don't agree with punching by police. I don't agree with it by anyone but when someone is down on their stomach and you are punching them from behind, I think that is wrong.

At the end of the day - I think they are all idiots who made the situation worse for everyone is some way, shape or form. Chiefs charges should stay, second officer needs to be disciplined and both officers need more training. Wife should get the ticket for insurance.
 

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I don't really side with any of them.

The first cop took too long to subdue the chief. He should have done so right away in my opinion. I respect he was trying to play nice and give the chief a chance to calm down but when the chief is so aggressive, he should have just cuffed him right away and then dealt with the wife.

The chief is an asshole.

The wife should have done more to calm down her hubby and insist she deals with the officer since she was driving.

The second cop just showed up and tackled the chief. I say he was too quick on the draw and should have waited a few seconds to assess the situation better. I also don't think that type of tackle is needed. He could have walked up and lent a hand in the arrest.

I don't agree with punching by police. I don't agree with it by anyone but when someone is down on their stomach and you are punching them from behind, I think that is wrong.

At the end of the day - I think they are all idiots who made the situation worse for everyone is some way, shape or form. Chiefs charges should stay, second officer needs to be disciplined and both officers need more training. Wife should get the ticket for insurance.

The wife was the one who the cop was trying to arrest initially Jessica.
 

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I don't agree with punching by police. I don't agree with it by anyone but when someone is down on their stomach and you are punching them from behind, I think that is wrong. ...
And that is part of the issue today. Police for a long time have been taught to do things like that to help getting the person cuffed, whether or not the suspect actually posed a threat.


At times I feel bad for cops as they spend too much time dealing with difficult people and face a very fine line between respecting people and enforcing the law but I've also seen a bunch who bring this shit on themselves.
 

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The chief is almost as idiotic as the title of this thread.

The 2nd cop is an asshole but the chief is the one who created the whole escalation of what should have been a routine situation.
 

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The Chief is lucky he didn't get shot.

The Chief should man up and say: "I was a idiot and got what I deserved."

The 2nd cop should say: "I'm sorry I was so Gung-Ho... I thought my fellow cop was in trouble..."

The two shake hands and go for a beer.
 

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Greta Thunberg Calls RCMP Treatment Of Chief Allan Adam 'Shameless Abuse'

The Chief is a climate change believer. The leader of
our time is on his side. He must be a good guy.

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June 13 2020

Greta Thunberg has seen footage of the RCMP’s arrest of Athabasca Chipewyan First Nation Chief Allan Adam and called the “shameful abuse” of the police “very disturbing to see.”

The 17-year-old climate activist tweeted her support for Chief Adam after a video of his encounter with the RCMP was made public. The footage shows the chief being tackled by two officers, getting punched and put in a chokehold in front of his wife.

Thunberg and Adam had previously met in Fort McMurray, where she stopped by after speaking at a large climate rally in Edmonton in October 2019. Adam met Thunberg to speak about the impact of climate change in his region, which has seen firsthand the detrimental effects of global warming with lower water levels and increasingly unpredictable weather patterns. Allan issued a statement in January when a resident on a snowmobile fell through thinning ice.

“This however shows once again the dangers of unchecked development and runaway climate change,” said Allan in a statement to MyMcMurray. “It is January 7 and minus thirty degrees in northern Alberta and yet the ice is still too thin to travel on. And this was just a Ski-Doo, not even a car or truck.”

Thunberg repeatedly asked for media focus to turn to Indigenous climate activists like Autumn Pelletier during her Canadian tour. Indigenous communities in Canada depend on their land for traditional forms of survival like hunting, fishing and farming and are often at the forefront of climate activism.

“We had a great discussion,” he told MyMcMurray after their meeting. “We’re happy that she’s choosing to educate herself about the local Indigenous peoples perspective as part of her tour of Alberta.”

Allan first revealed the brutal details of his experience with RCMP during a press conference on June 6. The arrest happened early morning on March 15 when RCMP stopped Allan for an expired license plate.

At the press conference, he said things began to escalate when he saw police putting his wife in a headlock. The video shows that two police then tackled Allan behind his truck, and held him down aggressively.

Allan said it was only when he started yelling out that he was a chief that the officers stopped.

At the time of the first press conference, Allan’s legal team was still trying to get access to police dash-cam footage of the arrest.

The chief released photos of his face after the arrest, which showed that his eye was swollen and bruised, while blood caked his face.

The dash-cam footage was released several days later as part of a court application to stay criminal charges against the chief.

“Everyone who has seen this video has serious questions about what exactly happened, about how it happened this way and about the use of force that we saw,” said Trudeau. “That’s why we’re calling for an independent, transparent investigation that will get the answers to so many questions people are asking right now.”

The arrest is being investigated by Alberta’s Serious Incident Response Team (ASIRT), an independent branch of the police that investigates officer misconduct. Alberta RCMP’s deputy commissioner Curtis Zablocki had initially commented on the incident, saying that he didn’t believe racism was a systemic issue in Canadian.

After facing intense scrutiny for this position, Zablocki said he changed his opinion a few days later after some “research and googling” he said. He also vowed to stamp out systemic racism from the RCMP.

Adam’s case is the latest in a slew of accusations of police brutalizing First Nations communities. Earlier in June, Indigenous mom Chantel Moore was killed by New Brunswick police after they were called to perform a “wellness check.”

New Brunswick police killed another Indigenous person a few weeks after Moore’s death. Rodney Levi from the Metepenagiag Mi’kmaq Nation was shot by RCMP on Friday night as they were responding to a call about a disturbed person.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/greta-thunberg-rcmp-allan-adam_ca_5ee522fdc5b677e92a60046a
 

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And that is part of the issue today. Police for a long time have been taught to do things like that to help getting the person cuffed, whether or not the suspect actually posed a threat.
You mean they've been taught to enforce the law? Good.
 

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The Chief is lucky he didn't get shot.

The Chief should man up and say: "I was a idiot and got what I deserved."

The 2nd cop should say: "I'm sorry I was so Gung-Ho... I thought my fellow cop was in trouble..."

The two shake hands and go for a beer.
The chief would never admit wrongdoing, and police officers are supposed to possess superhuman skills like knowing whether their partner is in serious trouble or not in real-time hostile situations.
 

jcpro

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The Chief is lucky he didn't get shot.

The Chief should man up and say: "I was a idiot and got what I deserved."

The 2nd cop should say: "I'm sorry I was so Gung-Ho... I thought my fellow cop was in trouble..."

The two shake hands and go for a beer.
Real MEN would say that. But, this is 2020.
 

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Charges have been dropped (I assume lawsuit pending). Turns out the dickhead cop that attacked the chief has criminal charges pending against him and SOMEHOW was still allowed to keep his gun and badge. First cop should have issued a ticket and allowed the chief to drive home. The is no need to stop him from doing so. He did it becuase he was a racist most likely.
 

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Charges have been dropped (I assume lawsuit pending). Turns out the dickhead cop that attacked the chief has criminal charges pending against him and SOMEHOW was still allowed to keep his gun and badge. First cop should have issued a ticket and allowed the chief to drive home. The is no need to stop him from doing so. He did it becuase he was a racist most likely.
The second cop, Seguin, should not have been working if there were criminal charges pending. Management at the police headquarters should be held accountable for that.

The first cop exercised tremendous restraint. Ever occur to you that the reason the chief wasn't driving to begin with and was so confrontational was because he was drunk? First cop did nothing to indicate he was racist. Legal stop according to the Alberta driving laws.

Case against the chief was possibly dropped by Crown Counsel because they discovered criminal charges were pending against Seguin, so any evidence he would have provided could not be considered credible. That doesn't mean the chief was innocent. That's likely why charges were stayed, and not dismissed.
 
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Chief deserved a smack or 2 upside the head. The second cop was a bit too aggressive. The chief should still get charged...what an asshat. It's too bad some reserves don't have better role models in leadership positions. We're more and more setting up a system where resisting arrest is deemed ok/almost promoted if you will, which will: a) lead to more police getting hurt - not good b) lead to more physical interactions between police and suspects (you'd think society would want the opposite?).
 

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Lol most of you are clueless, The chief was acting badly, but the cops had no right to assault him.

That cop should have been under suspension, after this

Const. Simon Seguin, is going to trial on Sept. 30 on charges of assault, mischief and unlawfully being in a dwelling house.

The charges are related to an incident from August 5, 2019.
 
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