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Woman apologizes after video goes viral of her calling police on black birdwatcher

Smallcock

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Thanks for admitting that you just argue for the sake of arguing, and that you have no legitimate rebuttal of my comments, aside from "I don't see it".
Correct. Those of us with two eyes see all of your facts clearly. You can tell someone that the sun is yellow and they can rebut by saying "I don't see it" but that's on them.
 

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I think the most fascinating part about the story is they had the same last name.
Her great, grand father was probably his great grand father's slave master.

My opinion: She's a racist. She's just a typical semi successful woman I see lots in the financial district. She's 41, lost her looks (if she had them in the first place?), single, rejected by men/beaten to men by younger and hotter women and she's generally an angry (probably feminist), bitter woman with too much testosterone! Met many man hating and rejected women in business.
 

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If we can get past the hysteria and hyperbole, I think the likely scenario is that we have a woman, alone, in a secluded part of Central Park (where violence against women is not uncommon) confronted by a male probably much larger than herself. She was clearly concerned about her and her dog's safety and called 911.
You forgot black. Stop trying to hide what you want to say. Look the dude was effeminate and she probably felt she could kick his ass if she wanted to. Did you not see her rushing him and making him back up? You're still trying to push that concerned about her safety narrative?

Watch that video again and see how she approached him and gave him commands. When he wouldn't follow those orders, she casually told him how she's going to make his sweet ass pay.

PS: She was so concerned about the dog's safety that she tried to put it down herself. Mercy killing?
 

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You forgot black. Stop trying to hide what you want to say. Look the dude was effeminate and she probably felt she could kick his ass if she wanted to. Did you not see her rushing him and making him back up? You're still trying to push that concerned about her safety narrative?

Watch that video again and see how she approached him and gave him commands. When he wouldn't follow those orders, she casually told him how she's going to make his sweet ass pay.

PS: She was so concerned about the dog's safety that she tried to put it down herself. Mercy killing?

She gave the dog back to the Society because she was criticized for dragging it around by the neck.

That's not putting it down. They'll find another home for it.
 

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Her great, grand father was probably his great grand father's slave master.

My opinion: She's a racist. She's just a typical semi successful woman I see lots in the financial district. She's 41, lost her looks (if she had them in the first place?), single, rejected by men/beaten to men by younger and hotter women and she's generally an angry (probably feminist), bitter woman with too much testosterone! Met many man hating and rejected women in business.
Yup walking about Wall St., you would find many of her type. She met her match that day with this "soft spoken" guy. He definitely egged her on and she fell right into it.
 

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Her great, grand father was probably his great grand father's slave master.
Whew! Thank goodness my last name isn't Cooper. Wouldn't want to be accused of having a slave master in my family tree.

Disclosure: My last name is actually Lincoln (like in Abraham).

Ok, I'm being sarcastic.
 

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She gave the dog back to the Society because she was criticized for dragging it around by the neck.

That's not putting it down. They'll find another home for it.
You misunderstood what I wrote. I am saying that she showed so much concern for the dog that she concentrated on calling the police to lie that she showed NO concern for it, and seemed like she was about to strangle it to death in the process.
 

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Whew! Thank goodness my last name isn't Cooper. Wouldn't want to be accused of having a slave master in my family tree.

Disclosure: My last name is actually Lincoln (like in Abraham).

Ok, I'm being sarcastic.
His sarcasm/joke was fine. Yours was pointless.

PS: I have family members with the Cooper name as it's in the islands as well. Black people with non-African names (Smith, Brown, etc etc) are indeed more than likely carrying slave names! Their ancestors were owned by the Smiths, the Browns of days gone by. They weren't 'related' to them. They were owned by them. It's one of the reasons Malcolm X stopped using Malcolm Little. His choice.
 

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It's not a clairvoyant talent. It's simply understanding human nature. Someone that shows a disregard for life due to race in one instance will also show the same disregard in other instances. Being a bad person and a cretin with poor judgement isn't a tap that you can just turn off.
So now you have switched from being a clairvoyant to being a phsycologist and claim to know all about human nature. and anybody that is a bad person is perfectly comparable to a murderer.
You certainly are a man of many talents.
So now that I consider you a person with poor judgement should I be comparing you to a murderer?

She is a racist bitch that made a phone call and it backfired and ruined her life, rightfully so.
Comparing her to a bastard cop who murdered an unarmed handcuffed guy is just plain stupid.
The only comparison is that they are both racist.
 

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So now you have switched from being a clairvoyant to being a phsycologist and claim to know all about human nature. and anybody that is a bad person is perfectly comparable to a murderer.
You certainly are a man of many talents.
So now that I consider you a person with poor judgement should I be comparing you to a murderer?

She is a racist bitch that made a phone call and it backfired and ruined her life, rightfully so.
Comparing her to a bastard cop who murdered an unarmed handcuffed guy is just plain stupid.
The only comparison is that they are both racist.
Exactly.

The system is set up so that had female Cooper not videotaped male Cooper, he could have been arrested and faced serious, life altering complications with only minimal risks to female Cooper.
Instead, female Cooper is now paying the price that male Cooper could have faced.
Its just desserts, really.
 

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So now you have switched from being a clairvoyant to being a phsycologist and claim to know all about human nature. and anybody that is a bad person is perfectly comparable to a murderer.
You certainly are a man of many talents.
So now that I consider you a person with poor judgement should I be comparing you to a murderer?

She is a racist bitch that made a phone call and it backfired and ruined her life, rightfully so.
Comparing her to a bastard cop who murdered an unarmed handcuffed guy is just plain stupid.
The only comparison is that they are both racist.
If you participate in a murder you're just as guilty as the person that pulls the trigger. This woman knew that uttering the threat of calling the police based on his race could end to any number of very bad outcomes for him, including death.

This has happened in the past.

So there you have it. Let me know if you need further clarification. No superhuman powers required.
 
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If you participate in a murder you're just a small guilty as the person that pulls the trigger. This woman knew that uttering the threat of calling the police based on his race could end to any number of very bad outcomes for him, including death.

This has happened on the past.

So there you have it. Let me know if you need further clarification. No superhuman powers required.
You go around encouraging people to dismiss C19 as a flu which will certainly cause more deaths, but you are not guilty of muder and this Karen is?
 

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You go around encouraging people to dismiss C19 as a flu which will certainly cause more deaths, but you are not guilty of muder and this Karen is?
C19 is a disease with a low fatality rate. Armed with this knowledge people have the right to make their own choices on whether to stay in their homes or go outside like normal humans. Encouraging people to exercise their rights is not the same as exercising murder which is illegal.
 

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Thanks for admitting that you just argue for the sake of arguing, and that you have no legitimate rebuttal of my comments, aside from "I don't see it".
And you are wrong again. Yes, I am arguing for the sake of arguing, however, all of my arguments are legit and I do have legitimate rebuttal against you comments. A defence attorney should not believe that his client is innocent, nor is it his job to prove that his client is innocent. His job is to prove that his client MAY BE innocent and it is the prosecutor's job to prove the crime. If the prosecutor fails to prove it beyond the reasonable doubt, the accused person is deemed innocent. What I am saying is that this girl MAY BE innocent, however, she is already convicted in the court of public opinion and already punished by her employer. This is wrong!!! The people who do it (convict and or punish when there is chance she is innocent) are guilty of a much bigger crime than she may be.
 

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Correct. Those of us with two eyes see all of your facts clearly. You can tell someone that the sun is yellow and they can rebut by saying "I don't see it" but that's on them.
And you are wrong by saying you can see ALL of the facts. You can see only part of them that was recorded. Partial truth is no better than a lie.
 

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You forgot black. Stop trying to hide what you want to say. Look the dude was effeminate and she probably felt she could kick his ass if she wanted to. Did you not see her rushing him and making him back up? You're still trying to push that concerned about her safety narrative?

Watch that video again and see how she approached him and gave him commands. When he wouldn't follow those orders, she casually told him how she's going to make his sweet ass pay.

PS: She was so concerned about the dog's safety that she tried to put it down herself. Mercy killing?
If she was a huge white tattooed dude, she would have felt the same. If it was a nice dressed back guy, she would have felt safe. It is not about the race, it is about appearance and behaviour.
 

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Now, let's set emotions aside for a bit and this about it logically. What we have is a girl calling 911 greatly exaggerating her situation (the "danger" she is in), explicitly using gender of the man, but, at the same time, knows that she is recording her. The women is well-educated, a VP of a financial firm, so, she should be smart. Now, we have two possibilities:

1) She is malicious. She got pissed on the guy who insisted she put the dog on the leash and maybe even had a heated verbal exchange with him. She may be even racist. So, he want to get back at him, calls the cops, and pretend she is in danger. She is very rational and able to think straight
2) She had a heated verbal exchange with the guy, she is afraid he want to poison her dog, and she interpreted something that he said as a threat to herself too. She is afraid, she called the cop, and say what he think it is. She said the guy's race because she genuinely more afraid of a black guy in secluded areas of the part (because she knows that most attacks do involve black guys). She is not able to think straight.

Now, remember that she is smart and she knows that she is recorded. Anyone still believes that option 1 is possible? If she is thinking straight, she knows of high risk of negative consequences (due to recording). I believe, she was not able to think straight at that time. Hence, she was genuinely afraid and option 2 was more likely. Furthermore, the fact that the guy had dog threats with him shows that he was looking for confrontation with an appropriate dog owner.
 

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If she was a huge white tattooed dude, she would have felt the same. If it was a nice dressed back guy, she would have felt safe. It is not about the race, it is about appearance and behaviour.
LOL she would have called the cop on any man regardless of dress code. By nicely dressed you mean clean shorts and running shoes in a park? Lol he was that guy.

But in your examples she would claim assault or harassment sans the race bait. No man is free and clear from Karen, the racist.

Fradi, if you're reading this, it doesn't take any special skill to conclude that Karen would just as easily pull the gender bait as she did race bait, if she was dealing with a white male. The modus operandi of a Karen's thought patterns are anything but complicated.
 

Smallcock

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Now, let's set emotions aside for a bit and this about it logically. What we have is a girl calling 911 greatly exaggerating her situation (the "danger" she is in), explicitly using gender of the man, but, at the same time, knows that she is recording her. The women is well-educated, a VP of a financial firm, so, she should be smart. Now, we have two possibilities:

1) She is malicious. She got pissed on the guy who insisted she put the dog on the leash and maybe even had a heated verbal exchange with him. She may be even racist. So, he want to get back at him, calls the cops, and pretend she is in danger. She is very rational and able to think straight
2) She had a heated verbal exchange with the guy, she is afraid he want to poison her dog, and she interpreted something that he said as a threat to herself too. She is afraid, she called the cop, and say what he think it is. She said the guy's race because she genuinely more afraid of a black guy in secluded areas of the part (because she knows that most attacks do involve black guys). She is not able to think straight.

Now, remember that she is smart and she knows that she is recorded. Anyone still believes that option 1 is possible? If she is thinking straight, she knows of high risk of negative consequences (due to recording). I believe, she was not able to think straight at that time. Hence, she was genuinely afraid and option 2 was more likely. Furthermore, the fact that the guy had dog threats with him shows that he was looking for confrontation with an appropriate dog owner.
Your first sentence is inaccurate and points to your white female saviour attitude. You need to shake this instinct. She's not a girl... she's a middle aged university educated woman. She was never afraid. People that are afraid call the cops... they don't give a speech to the other person while doing it, nor are they aggressors like she was.

It's not fear that caused her mental breakdown and inability to think straight. It was her anger, at what she assumed was an uneducated black man correcting her privilege.

Your investment in dismissing Karen's racism is quite frankly, deeply troubling.
 

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If you participate in a murder you're just as guilty as the person that pulls the trigger. This woman knew that uttering the threat of calling the police based on his race could end to any number of very bad outcomes for him, including death.
Do you actually read the BS you spout off or it comes so natural to you.
So your opinion is that calling the police is equivalent to murdering someone.

There happens to be quite a few black or Hispanic cops also, what makes you so sure it would be white cops and they would automatically murder the guy based on a phone call.

Btw the poor black guy that was blatantly murdered by that asshole cop would be more than happy to be bird watching now in Central Park like the guy that this racist bitch called the cops on. No fn comparison can be made between the two.
 
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