Price Compression

[Hotchilly]

Is it just me or do I notice that the difference in hourly price between MPs (at spas) and SPs is getting smaller?

I recently noticed that the hourly rate at ALO has gone from $170 to $180, Brass has moved up to $190, CMJ is at $200 (I think they were less not too far back, was it $180?). SP pricing does not seem to have changed much if at all. So it seems to me that the gap is narrowing. It leaves me wondering why we would continue to visit MPs. There are certainly some reasons why some of us frequent MPs, I get that, but I would think that with the price narrowing, it argues for increased SP visits or the expectation for more than the normal level of MP services at spas.

For example, a fave SP of mine (Arielle in Gatineau) charges no more than the lowest of the above listed spas and she is an awesome woman, and I have a great time with her - always. Other SPs provide the increased list of acronyms, which obviously, many of us want (ex. MILF Factory) and quite a few are at the lower end of the above range and offering decent-enough services. Even many well-rated SPs are not charging much more than the highest in the above range.

So I remain confused, perhaps there is something I do not understand here. i am putting this out there to see what others think.

 

[Master Cuddles]

I'm only a CMJ member, so I cannot speak for other spas, but I too did notice the $20 increase for the same hourly rate. I haven't been able to afford to hobby the last few months, but when SPs are doing more for you than an MP is allowed to do to you for near enough the same price, it does indeed beg the question as to why frequent a spa now?

Kinda like the same thing with strip bars. There's no point whatsoever in paying for a lap dance when you can get so much more for the same amount of money at a spa or with a good SP.

 

[Mable]

I'm only a CMJ member, so I cannot speak for other spas, but I too did notice the $20 increase for the same hourly rate. I haven't been able to afford to hobby the last few months, but when SPs are doing more for you than an MP is allowed to do to you for near enough the same price, it does indeed beg the question as to why frequent a spa now?

Kinda like the same thing with strip bars. There's no point whatsoever in paying for a lap dance when you can get so much more for the same amount of money at a spa or with a good SP.

Has this not always been the case. It is the reason why I never frequent strip clubs for any reason other than to get a free lunch and watch. When I want action, sp's are the only way to go.

 

[fibrewax]

Strip clubs have become more and more of a scam - which is sad, as I have spent a lot of good times in them (in the past).
From the overpriced booze, to the sped-up/forced 3 minute song time cutoff in the champagne room, to the hard-sell you get to go into the back .... it just isn't the experience it used to be.
I like variety, and strip clubs always had that, but now I just see them as a money pit with little to no return for the money spent.
Just a high-priced tease.
(Almost like paying highly for a MA, to only get a HJ - which I can do for myself for free, lol)
Prices for MA and SP are also going up.
Inflation, cost of living, whatever.
The only behavior this incites is that we now spend money less frequently - and on someone who truly provides some astronomically astounding service - which is also becoming more rare, unfortunately.
Sigh, damn that smaller head.

 

[fall]

Is it just me or do I notice that the difference in hourly price between MPs (at spas) and SPs is getting smaller?

I recently noticed that the hourly rate at ALO has gone from $170 to $180, Brass has moved up to $190, CMJ is at $200 (I think they were less not too far back, was it $180?). SP pricing does not seem to have changed much if at all. So it seems to me that the gap is narrowing. It leaves me wondering why we would continue to visit MPs. There are certainly some reasons why some of us frequent MPs, I get that, but I would think that with the price narrowing, it argues for increased SP visits or the expectation for more than the normal level of MP services at spas.

For example, a fave SP of mine (Arielle in Gatineau) charges no more than the lowest of the above listed spas and she is an awesome woman, and I have a great time with her - always. Other SPs provide the increased list of acronyms, which obviously, many of us want (ex. MILF Factory) and quite a few are at the lower end of the above range and offering decent-enough services. Even many well-rated SPs are not charging much more than the highest in the above range.

So I remain confused, perhaps there is something I do not understand here. i am putting this out there to see what others think.

Where are these big agency names where I can see beautiful young SP at downtown in-calls on an hour notice? I pay extra for convenience that Brass Club or CMJ provides. I would be happy to pay even more (way more) if a convenient escort agency with the same type of girls would exist in Ottawa, but booking independent SPs in advance (especially if they require screening), not getting immediate confirmation (which can only be done if girls have a booker) and going to different in-call locations for different girls does not worth it for me. So, low price for SP is due to the lack of services (outside of the visit itself).

 

[Alison_xox]

Hey guys ,
As a provider , I would like to share my opinion about what I think might be the cause of what changed the industry in Ottawa ..

That will be long so I apologized for the novel.

First , let’s analyse the industry ..
We have the providers (Ma , Hybrid, Sp )
Then , the clients.

Let’s focus on clients first ..

There’s multiple types of clients.
We have :

1. The time waster : Fakebook or Nsnc
2. The serial textor: Text you 20000 times/day for 3 years , but never book.
3. The hater: Text you just to let you know how much he hates women.
4. The kid : Less than 18yo , but tries to book.
5. The drunk: Can’t talk, walk or get hard , but wants to book now.
6. The broke ass : Ask for 30min fs for 20$ or tries to deal your donation.
7. The paranoiac : Book you , but cancel last min because he’s too nervous.
8. The predator : Stalker , dangerous , violent
9. The boundary pusher: Tries to do everything you clearly stated was not allowed in session.
10. The douchebag: Try to see you for free because he’s so awesome.
11. The gross: Smells like he didn’t shower for 3 months and comes with super long nails to scratch your inside.
12. The regular: Thanks lord , we love you guys and we feel safe with you
13. The normal : Easy to book and lovely in session. You wish he becomes your regular.

Now the providers:

1. The faker : Post with stolen pics and lies about services and rates.
2. The scammer: Get your money and disappears.
3. The ghost: Book you, but never shows up.
4. The overpriced : She looks gorgeous , but you can’t afford her.
5. The Tgtbt: She’s the new Victoria’s secret top model and she’s working as an sp and offers everything for a very affordable rate. Yeah right !
6. The Ma: Work at a spa and might or might not offer what you want but she looks gorgeous so you might try.
7. The Well established : She screens , never available last min , but she’s great and look gorgeous.
8. The touring girl : She ask for deposit , she screens and she looks gorgeous.
9. The regular: She offer what you want , easy to book , gorgeous and you feel safe with her.


Now the rates :

Spas : Easy to book , no screening , plenty of girls to chose from , convenient for last min , safe and clean environment for clients , no need to filter leolist ads.
Rates : 180-200/h

Indy Ma’s: Often built their clientele in spas so have enough regulars to be financially stable.
Often screen their new clients for safety and avoiding time wasters. Often need to book in advance. Need to filter leolist to find her or read reviews.
Rates: May vary between 180-220/h

Spa Hybrids: Ma’s that offers more services. Don’t like to advertise their hybrid rates so they can choose to whom they offer extra services and don’t get in trouble in the spa.
Rates: May vary , but around 280/h

Indy Hybrids: Often ex Ma from spas. They have a stable regular clientele. Often screens new clients for safety and avoiding time wasters if they’re indy. Often need to book in advance. Need to filter leolist to find or read reviews.
Rates: Ma between 180-220 Hybrid : 280+

Sp’s: Often offer gfe++ , Often need to book in advance , Often screen for safety and to avoid time wasters. Often super clear about services and rates. Need to filter leolist and read reviews.
Rates: May vary depending of the providers and services asked for.

Touring girls : Rare unicorn that you need to book in advance because she often need a deposit and get booked super fast. Need to filter leolist and read reviews.
Rates: May vary on the cost of her expenses for her tour and the services asked for.
Ps. The reason why she’s a rare unicorn and touring girls are not visiting Ottawa so often as before is because of all the type of clients 1 to 11 ..

Now , most of the clients like to book a provider last min without screening so the spas are the easiest options for them.
Since the spas knows that they will ALWAYS have clients , they have the monopole in Ottawa. They can charge 200/h if they want and clients will still book them.

Indy providers are now screening most of the times because of clients 1 to 11 and they often are upon pre-booking as well. They got various rates so you guys need to filter leolist and read reviews in order to find what you are looking for in terms of safety , services , location and rates. So when you end up finding a provider that is gorgeous , offering what you want at a rate that is acceptable for you , you stick with her and become a regular. Might try a new one from time to time , but you go back to your regular because she’s awesome , doesn’t screen you anymore , knows what you like , makes you feel safe and welcomes you with a big smile.

Finally, I might be wrong , but I think the rates are based on the demand.

I think clients 1 to 11 and providers 1-2-3-5 completely screw the Industry in Ottawa.

Indy providers & clients needs to be cautious before booking and it makes it difficult for everybody.

End of my novel ..

P.s. It’s a generalization.. I am not saying that the rates I have listed are exact. It’s just my vision of the industry. You might have a different point of view and it is ok.

Now I am waiting for bobbiz to slice my novel in little pieces and comment it one piece at the time
Don’t be too severe please

Kisses
Ali

 

[RockNRollMachin]

Hey guys ,
As a provider , I would like to share my opinion about what I think might be the cause of what changed the industry in Ottawa ..

That will be long so I apologized for the novel.

First , let’s analyse the industry ..
We have the providers (Ma , Hybrid, Sp )
Then , the clients.

Let’s focus on clients first ..

There’s multiple types of clients.
We have :

1. The time waster : Fakebook or Nsnc
2. The serial textor: Text you 20000 times/day for 3 years , but never book.
3. The hater: Text you just to let you know how much he hates women.
4. The kid : Less than 18yo , but tries to book.
5. The drunk: Can’t talk, walk or get hard , but wants to book now.
6. The broke ass : Ask for 30min fs for 20$ or tries to deal your donation.
7. The paranoiac : Book you , but cancel last min because he’s too nervous.
8. The predator : Stalker , dangerous , violent
9. The boundary pusher: Tries to do everything you clearly stated was not allowed in session.
10. The douchebag: Try to see you for free because he’s so awesome.
11. The gross: Smells like he didn’t shower for 3 months and comes with super long nails to scratch your inside.
12. The regular: Thanks lord , we love you guys and we feel safe with you
13. The normal : Easy to book and lovely in session. You wish he becomes your regular.

Now the providers:

1. The faker : Post with stolen pics and lies about services and rates.
2. The scammer: Get your money and disappears.
3. The ghost: Book you, but never shows up.
4. The overpriced : She looks gorgeous , but you can’t afford her.
5. The Tgtbt: She’s the new Victoria’s secret top model and she’s working as an sp and offers everything for a very affordable rate. Yeah right !
6. The Ma: Work at a spa and might or might not offer what you want but she looks gorgeous so you might try.
7. The Well established : She screens , never available last min , but she’s great and look gorgeous.
8. The touring girl : She ask for deposit , she screens and she looks gorgeous.
9. The regular: She offer what you want , easy to book , gorgeous and you feel safe with her.


Now the rates :

Spas : Easy to book , no screening , plenty of girls to chose from , convenient for last min , safe and clean environment for clients , no need to filter leolist ads.
Rates : 180-200/h

Indy Ma’s: Often built their clientele in spas so have enough regulars to be financially stable.
Often screen their new clients for safety and avoiding time wasters. Often need to book in advance. Need to filter leolist to find her or read reviews.
Rates: May vary between 180-220/h

Spa Hybrids: Ma’s that offers more services. Don’t like to advertise their hybrid rates so they can choose to whom they offer extra services and don’t get in trouble in the spa.
Rates: May vary , but around 280/h

Indy Hybrids: Often ex Ma from spas. They have a stable regular clientele. Often screens new clients for safety and avoiding time wasters if they’re indy. Often need to book in advance. Need to filter leolist to find or read reviews.
Rates: Ma between 180-220 Hybrid : 280+

Sp’s: Often offer gfe++ , Often need to book in advance , Often screen for safety and to avoid time wasters. Often super clear about services and rates. Need to filter leolist and read reviews.
Rates: May vary depending of the providers and services asked for.

Touring girls : Rare unicorn that you need to book in advance because she often need a deposit and get booked super fast. Need to filter leolist and read reviews.
Rates: May vary on the cost of her expenses for her tour and the services asked for.
Ps. The reason why she’s a rare unicorn and touring girls are not visiting Ottawa so often as before is because of all the type of clients 1 to 11 ..

Now , most of the clients like to book a provider last min without screening so the spas are the easiest options for them.
Since the spas knows that they will ALWAYS have clients , they have the monopole in Ottawa. They can charge 200/h if they want and clients will still book them.

Indy providers are now screening most of the times because of clients 1 to 11 and they often are upon pre-booking as well. They got various rates so you guys need to filter leolist and read reviews in order to find what you are looking for in terms of safety , services , location and rates. So when you end up finding a provider that is gorgeous , offering what you want at a rate that is acceptable for you , you stick with her and become a regular. Might try a new one from time to time , but you go back to your regular because she’s awesome , doesn’t screen you anymore , knows what you like , makes you feel safe and welcomes you with a big smile.

Finally, I might be wrong , but I think the rates are based on the demand.

I think clients 1 to 11 and providers 1-2-3-5 completely screw the Industry in Ottawa.

Indy providers & clients needs to be cautious before booking and it makes it difficult for everybody.

End of my novel ..

P.s. It’s a generalization.. I am not saying that the rates I have listed are exact. It’s just my vision of the industry. You might have a different point of view and it is ok.

Now I am waiting for bobbiz to slice my novel in little pieces and comment it one piece at the time
Don’t be too severe please

Kisses
Ali

As an adept of the sp scene, I find your insight interesting. But I will say from personal experience that the sp's that screen are a minority (unless some screen me solely based on my phone number). I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of sp's that asked me for screening infos (references, terb handle, I have yet to be asked for a personal ID/work info which I would never give anyway due to fear of blackmailing potential). And yes Ali, eventhough you're an hybrid Ma, you're part of that very small group of girls that actually bothered to screen me, which I applaud you for by the way.

Over my 2 years of hobbying, I must have made serious inquiries that led to a booking or the step just before (we try to schedule a time but our schedules don't align) at least 400 times (if not more). So based on my rough estimation, I'd say on the order of 1% of SP bother to screen their customers by asking them purposefully for infos.

But again, I might have gotten screened unknowingly numerous times based simply on my phone number and I sure hope I have been, for the sake of the security of the SP.

I will also add that your statement/opinion regarding the customer side of thing, where a lot of us customers are among option 1 to 11 rings very true to my ears. As a recent example, my most recent visit, Mila, told me that in Ottawa, 70% of her inquiries would fit in these categories whereas in Alberta where she worked previously, it would be the opposite with 70% of her inquiries fitting in the categories 12-13. A sad reality to deal with for you, the providers, and certainly a reality that entice many touring lady not to come back to the crap hole Ottawa appears to be compared to other regions. I will go further with this logic and add that this dynamic will also tend to discourage local sp's, thus further lowering supplies for the service and increasing the prices.

Cheers !

 

[JohnnyFever]

You know, I can remember paying Jasmin $180 an hour in 2004 when she first came to Ottawa. It's not like MA prices have been spiking for years - there's been some variability in the 30 and 45 minute rates but $180 an hour has been the standard rate for a very long time. This is the first general increase I can remember in this town, and they're limited in how high they can go because of all the indy hybrid providers they're competing with.

 

[Respect1]

Is it just me or do I notice that the difference in hourly price between MPs (at spas) and SPs is getting smaller?

I recently noticed that the hourly rate at ALO has gone from $170 to $180, Brass has moved up to $190, CMJ is at $200 (I think they were less not too far back, was it $180?). SP pricing does not seem to have changed much if at all. So it seems to me that the gap is narrowing. It leaves me wondering why we would continue to visit MPs. There are certainly some reasons why some of us frequent MPs, I get that, but I would think that with the price narrowing, it argues for increased SP visits or the expectation for more than the normal level of MP services at spas.

For example, a fave SP of mine (Arielle in Gatineau) charges no more than the lowest of the above listed spas and she is an awesome woman, and I have a great time with her - always. Other SPs provide the increased list of acronyms, which obviously, many of us want (ex. MILF Factory) and quite a few are at the lower end of the above range and offering decent-enough services. Even many well-rated SPs are not charging much more than the highest in the above range.

So I remain confused, perhaps there is something I do not understand here. i am putting this out there to see what others think.

They get away with it because a lot of guys feel safer going to legit spas VS indy locations .

Personally I would rather go see my 200/hr to 240/hr( 200/45 min) SP then fork out 180 to 200/hr at a spa for MA services .
I also like hybrids for those days that you only need certain things , and only pay for what you get .

For some it,s not a matter of what its worth , but of what we can afford for the services we want . If you look long enuf there are gems out there .

 

[MikeO]

Thank you so much for putting so much thought (and excellent writing) into your summary, Alison. We can all debate on small elements of it but, in general, it's a fair and accurate assessment of both sides and the Ottawa scene. May I suggest a 14th type of client..."Exceptional"... the clean, courteous, respectful, personable, fun repeat client who tips well because he/she truly appreciates the service and/or brings along a thoughtful gift, and makes every effort to please the provider in ways she truly enjoys (reverse massage, etc.)? There must be some way(s) for us client to be "highly reviewed".

 

[Alison_xox]

Thank you so much for putting so much thought (and excellent writing) into your summary, Alison. We can all debate on small elements of it but, in general, it's a fair and accurate assessment of both sides and the Ottawa scene. May I suggest a 14th type of client..."Exceptional"... the clean, courteous, respectful, personable, fun repeat client who tips well because he/she truly appreciates the service and/or brings along a thoughtful gift, and makes every effort to please the provider in ways she truly enjoys (reverse massage, etc.)? There must be some way(s) for us client to be "highly reviewed".

Haha ! Those clients are rare but very appreciated.
I am very fortunate because I have a great clientele that I affectionately call “My Munchkins” .. I am pretty sure a lot of you guys have visited my website or my Twitter. I am directly referring to my Munchkins most of the time.
Those are the ones that makes me love what I do. I have a tendency to have repeated clients. I would say 90% of my income’s from my regulars. Obviously , being one of the rare Rmt in the industry helps a lot. I won’t lie , I am not 19 years old and I am pretty sure it’s a lot of providers out there that are younger and hotter than me. (I like to think that I am still young and hot loll , but I am not a victoria’s secret model , I am more “girl next door with a natural look” type of girl ) ..
Also , a lot are less restrictive as well. The fact that I am surrounded by those wonderful guys that keeps coming back to me , tells me that it’s a market for every kind of providers.

My way to deal with that is I am not trying to adjust to the industry , I am staying who I am. Who I am is a genuine person that enjoys welcoming my precious munchkins with a big hug. I created a safe place where my clients can feel home sweet home , appreciated and welcome. They can tell me everything and they knows it will stay inside the walls of my incall. They can unload the daily stress , explore new fantasies , be relaxed. I like to cover them with feminine attention and affection. I guess over the years I developed a lot of very intimate bond with them. They know my naughty side and they know what I like as much as I know them and that kind of clientele is absolutely amazing. To me , it’s the ultimate goal for a provider to reach that kind of level where you are financially stable with your regulars.

I like to welcome new clients from time to time , but my business is mostly based on my regular’s need. If I take a business decision , I will discuss with them first to get their opinions.
I have that huge massage table because they asked for it.
I have changed my oil because they prefer the one I am using right now.
I am now available in the evenings two times/week to accommodate the ones that couldn’t see me during my regular schedule.
I am adjusting accordingly to their needs and I know they appreciate it.
Ect ect ...

That would explains why on my twitter I often say :” I’ve met a new client today. Welcome in the family my precious munchkin” ..

So it is a lot of wonderful gents that are making us (providers) enjoy our job , but you don’t ear about them as much because they’re repeat clients and mostly stick with one provider.

To all of you that are reading that post , we love you so much guys.
Thanks for being awesome ..

Kisses
Ali

 

[Amancalledorst]

Thanks for your insight Ali. Spot on.

 

[gibarian]

As an adept of the sp scene, I find your insight interesting. But I will say from personal experience that the sp's that screen are a minority (unless some screen me solely based on my phone number). I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of sp's that asked me for screening infos (references, terb handle, I have yet to be asked for a personal ID/work info which I would never give anyway due to fear of blackmailing potential). And yes Ali, eventhough you're an hybrid Ma, you're part of that very small group of girls that actually bothered to screen me, which I applaud you for by the way.

Over my 2 years of hobbying, I must have made serious inquiries that led to a booking or the step just before (we try to schedule a time but our schedules don't align) at least 400 times (if not more). So based on my rough estimation, I'd say on the order of 1% of SP bother to screen their customers by asking them purposefully for infos.

Explain how you think this claim is credible, applied to the population of SPs at large.

Your anecdotal experience isn't valid evidence for that percentage, because you are an individual who seeks out providers that do not require screening. If screening is part of a provider's protocol it's nearly always mentioned in their advertisements. You use those advertisements to select the providers you wish to meet. Therefore, if 99% of the providers you have met do not require screening it is overwhelmingly due to the fact that you've sought out providers who do not require screening.

Your claim is effectively "because 99% of the providers I've chosen to see don't screen, 99% of all providers don't screen" which is obviously ridiculous. It seems like some weird confluence of self-selection and non-response bias.

I typically choose to see providers who have a website and an active Twitter presence, because abundant details and a feel for someone's personality are very important to me, and, having just run the numbers, about 85-87% of the people I've seen conduct screening. Does that give me cause to suggest that 87% of all providers screen?

Unless you're logging EVERY provider you've ever been aware of as a screener/non-screener -- regardless of your interest or ability to book them -- your percentage is completely meaningless.

 

[RockNRollMachin]

Explain how you think this claim is credible, applied to the population of SPs at large.

Your anecdotal experience isn't valid evidence for that percentage, because you are an individual who seeks out providers that do not require screening. If screening is part of a provider's protocol it's nearly always mentioned in their advertisements. You use those advertisements to select the providers you wish to meet. Therefore, if 99% of the providers you have met do not require screening it is overwhelmingly due to the fact that you've sought out providers who do not require screening.

Your claim is effectively "because 99% of the providers I've chosen to see don't screen, 99% of all providers don't screen" which is obviously ridiculous. It seems like some weird confluence of self-selection and non-response bias.

I typically choose to see providers who have a website and an active Twitter presence, because abundant details and a feel for someone's personality are very important to me, and, having just run the numbers, about 85-87% of the people I've seen conduct screening. Does that give me cause to suggest that 87% of all providers screen?

Unless you're logging EVERY provider you've ever been aware of as a screener/non-screener -- regardless of your interest or ability to book them -- your percentage is completely meaningless.

Fair point. I will say that it is likely that more than 1% of the overall SP population related to Ottawa screen since I didn't bother even contacting SPs that would advertise requiring real ID in their screening method on their website/ad. But those that do so are still a very small minority compared to the vast bunch to be found on LL who don't require any form of screening to book with.

 

[gibarian]

I've used Leolist a handful of times (and all of the people I met from there didn't screen, to your point).

I accept the premise that the number of escorts who use Leolist as their primary inlet is significantly larger than the number who use Twitter/their own website. My objection wasn't to that generality, but to the insane 99% figure that was thrown out there.

Your proposed experiment is still flawed -- Leolist is a venue where you know screening is less popular, so cataloguing 100 (or however many) individuals from there will naturally give you a skewed result. Again, the only way to arrive at any sort of accurate figure would be to comprehensively research as many individuals as you were able to, between Leolist, other portals like Tryst, Twitter, personal websites, etc.

 

[Alison_xox]

If I may ,

What is screening to you guys ?
To me it is simply asking for a way to feel safe.
In my case , an active board handle suffice.
I will ask for a reference from a provider if you don’t have an active board handle , but that doesn’t concern any of you on Terb Since you all have a board handle so screening is super painless.
I am never asking for any ID or any personal informations since I feel it wouldn’t be fair to ask for one if I am not ready to provide one myself. (I guess it is my personal choice and every provider have their own personal way to screen their clients in order to feel safe).

And

To me , leolist is not super good to get new clients. I post there 2/week and most of inquiry from there is a waste of my time. The only reason I post there is to remain active on every site so my clients that comes once in a while can find me easily..
Most of my new clients are from Twitter , my website and Oic website. They’re the ones that worth advertising on the most.
It might vary from a provider to an other. I am talking only from my point of view and based on my personal experience.

It’s good to keep an open mind so keep sharing your thoughts. It is interesting for me to learn how’s the industry from different client’s point of view.

Kisses
Ali

 

[itd131]

What is screening to you guys ?

Most of my new clients are from Twitter , my website and Oic website.

Screening that I have seen can include a board handle, a reference from another provider, ID, some type of online profile like linkedin or workplace info. I think screening is becoming a bit more common, but you can count on one hand the number of times I have been asked for any type of screening.

I agree with your comments above about scammers, etc. having a negative impact on the Ottawa scene. I have found the best way to avoid bs is to only book with providers who have websites and active twitter pages. I'm not surprised that's where your new business comes from. I have never had a bad experience with a lady who had a well developed online presence. It's the only way I would book with a new person now.

 

[Alison_xox]

A minority look for dfk , bbbj , daty because they are all unsafe services.
Maybe here on Terb , but Terb’s not the real life. It is maybe 2% of the clientele if so and the ones writing are always the same ones.

I have seen Terb clients and I have not share their handle. Neither they are felling deprived of their freedom of speech. If some of you are because of me , I am very sorry and encourage you to pm me so we can fix that.
Maybe you got bad experiences and put everybody in the same bucket.
You seems to have reserves about OIC as well ..

I am a very proud member of Oic. This group of wonderful persons are truly supportive and brings a lot of positivity in my life. I love them all ..

Kisses
Ali

 

[Alison_xox]

I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe. But whatever, carry on.[/URL]

It might be because clients don’t really ask me about those services since I am very open about my restrictions and made it clear everywhere. I guess I can’t be a good sample of the industry. Maybe if I wouldn’t be clear about my restrictions I would get more people asking for it.

Don't take it personal Ali, I did wrote "some providers" and I was definitely not referring to you.[/URL]

I know , but just in case some guys would feel that way

No I haven't got any bad experiences. Since the grand majority of escorts do not screen, I won't see one that makes screening mandatory. What I wrote is based on discussions here on Terb (and other forums) over the last 3 years.[/URL]

Ah I see ..

Rhetorical... https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?699182-What-Happened-tp-the-Ottawa-Scene/page4

It’s a long thread and I will take the time to read it eventually..

Kisses
Ali

 

[William St]

Yes, there is not much difference in price. However, MAs who work for an agency have to price in their room charge, and any other agency fees (advertising, etc) which can be substantial. Indies often run their service from their own residence or a hotel room, so cheaper.