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Greta Thunberg tells world leaders to end fossil fuel ‘madness’

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Damian Carrington
Jan 10 2020

Greta Thunberg and fellow youth climate campaigners are
demanding that global leaders immediately end the “madness”
of huge ongoing investments in fossil fuel exploration and
enormous subsidies for coal, oil and gas use.

The 21 young activists are also calling on the political and business leaders who will be attending the World Economic Forum in Davos to ensure investment funds dump their holdings in fossil fuel companies.

“Anything less would be a betrayal against life itself,” said Thunberg and colleagues in an article in the Guardian. “Today’s business as usual is turning into a crime against humanity. We demand that you play your part in putting an end to this madness.”

The burning of fossil fuels is the biggest driver of the climate emergency. Scientists predict catastrophic impacts unless deep cuts in emissions are made rapidly, but global emissions are still rising.

“Young people are being let down by older generations and those in power,” the climate strikers said. “To some it may seem like we are asking for a lot. But this is just the very minimum effort needed to start the rapid sustainable transition.”

Much of the world’s existing coal, oil and gas reserves must be kept in the ground to avoid the worst impacts of global heating. But investment in fossil fuel exploration and extraction remains high.

Since the Paris climate agreement in 2015, the world’s largest investment banks have provided more than $700bn (£535bn) to fossil fuel companies to develop new projects, with the total investment estimated to be trillions of dollars. Fossil fuel companies argue that their products will be used for many years to come and that they have a pivotal role in shifting the energy system to zero emissions. But their investments in green energy are tiny compared with those in fossil fuels.

Subsidies for fossil fuels also remain high despite a G20 pledge in 2009 to eliminate them. The IMF estimates such subsidies run at $10m a minute, or $5.2tn a year. “The fact that [ending investment and subsidies] hasn’t been done already is, quite frankly, a disgrace,” said Thunberg and colleagues.

Investors managing funds totalling $12tn have already divested from coal, oil and gas, but the climate activists demand that “all companies, banks, institutions and governments immediately and completely divest from fossil fuels”.

Mark Carney, the governor of the Bank of England, said in December that the financial sector was not cutting investments in oil and gas companies rapidly enough and warned that assets in the sector could end up “worthless”. He said in October that companies and industries not moving towards zero-carbon emissions would be punished by investors and go bankrupt.

“It ought to be in every company and stakeholder’s interest to make sure that the planet they live on will thrive,” said the climate strikers, who come from nations across the world, including the US, Australia, Brazil, Russia, India and Nigeria. “But history has not shown the corporate world’s willingness to hold themselves accountable. So it falls on us, the children, to do that.”

The agenda for the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum, which begins on 20 January in Switzerland, lists four “urgent and important” global issues. The first is “how to address the urgent climate and environmental challenges that are harming our ecology and economy”.

The climate strikers said: “The world’s leaders should invest their money in existing sustainable technologies, research and in restoring nature. Short-term profit should not trump long-term stability of life.”

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ells-world-leaders-to-end-fossil-fuel-madness
 
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You don't seriously expect these teenage geniuses to have solutions to these issues, do you? Demands are the easy part, they are afraid to do the hard part. Or simply don't know how.
 

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You don't seriously expect these teenage geniuses to have solutions to these issues, do you? Demands are the easy part, they are afraid to do the hard part. Or simply don't know how.
Yes, who is going to replace your oil fridge?
Or how about your petroleum based tooth paste?
Slurp, how will you get your homework done if your oil based crayons are gone?
 

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At Davos we will tell world leaders to abandon the fossil fuel economy

Article by Thunberg and her gang of lunatics quoted
in the OP.

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Greta Thunberg and others
Jan 10 2020

We have just entered a new decade, a decade where every month and every day will be absolutely crucial in deciding what the future will look like. Towards the end of January, chief executives, investors and policymakers will gather in Davos for the 50th anniversary of the World Economic Forum.

Young climate activists and school strikers from around the world will be present to put pressure on these leaders.

We demand that at this year’s forum, participants from all companies, banks, institutions and governments immediately halt all investments in fossil fuel exploration and extraction, immediately end all fossil fuel subsidies and immediately and completely divest from fossil fuels.

We don’t want these things done by 2050, 2030 or even 2021, we want this done now – as in right now.

We understand and know very well that the world is complicated and that what we are asking for may not be easy. But the climate crisis is also extremely complicated, and this is an emergency. In an emergency you step out of your comfort zone and make decisions that may not be very comfortable or pleasant. And let’s be clear – there is nothing easy, comfortable or pleasant about the climate and environmental emergency.

Young people are being let down by older generations and those in power. To some it may seem like we are asking for a lot. But this is just the very minimum of effort needed to start the rapid sustainable transition. The fact that this still – in 2020 – hasn’t been done already is, quite frankly, a disgrace.

Yet, since the 2015 Paris agreement, 33 major global banks have collectively poured $1.9tn (£1.5tn) into fossil fuels, according to Rainforest Action’s report. The IMF concluded that in 2017 alone, the world spent $5.2tn subsidising fossil fuels. This has to stop.

The world of finance has a responsibility to the planet, the people and all other species living on it. In fact, it ought to be in every company and stakeholder’s interest to make sure the planet they live on will thrive. But history has not shown the corporate world’s willingness to hold themselves accountable. So it falls on us, the children, to do that. We call upon the world’s leaders to stop investing in the fossil fuel economy that is at the very heart of this planetary crisis. Instead, they should invest their money in existing sustainable technologies, research and in restoring nature. Short-term profit should not trump long-term stability of life.

The theme of this year’s gathering in Davos is “stakeholders for a cohesive and sustainable world”. According to the forum’s website, leaders will meet to discuss ideas and improve our global progress on climate change. Our request to them is perhaps not so far-fetched considering that they say they understand and prioritise this emergency. Anything less than immediately ceasing these investments in the fossil fuel industry would be a betrayal of life itself. Today’s business as usual is turning into a crime against humanity. We demand that leaders play their part in putting an end to this madness. Our future is at stake, let that be their investment.

Greta Thunberg is a 17-year-old environmental campaigner from Stockholm, Sweden. This article was co-written with youth climate activists Jean Hinchliffe, Australia; Danielle Ferreira de Assis, Brazil; Joel Enrique Peña Panichine, Chile; Robin Jullian, France; Luisa Neubauer, Germany; Licipriya Kangujam, India; David Wicker, Italy; Julia Haddad, Lebanon; Oladosu Adenike, Nigeria; Iqbal Badruddin, Pakistan; Arshak Makichyan, Russia; Holly Gillibrand, Scotland; Alejandro Martínez, Spain; Isabelle Axelsson, Sweden; Sophia Axelsson, Sweden; Ell Jarl, Sweden; Mina Pohankova, Sweden; Linus Dolder, Switzerland; Vanessa Nakate, Uganda; Tokata Iron Eyes, USA

https://www.theguardian.com/comment...tycoons-fossil-fuels-dismantle-climate-crisis
 

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Greta is getting a small minority of people to enter into her psychosis out of naivete or misguided political correctness. Her father tells of how she stopped eating and was diagnosed with Asperger syndrome, obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD), and selective mutism. She is personally driven by the need to have a obsession to focus her existence on. She is being used and backed by factions that have their own agenda. If her unrealistic expectation are acted on it will set the world back and cost jobs and even lives. Fossil fuels have been used for over a hundred years. Even if this is not the best for the future of the world the reality is that it drives industry, transportation and food production.
 

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As someone who works in the ocean and is very much involved with environmental issues, all I can say is that Greta isn't the first odd-ball to set off a movement. Every scientist (that isn't empolyed my big oil) agrees that we need to reduce and eventually eliminate our use of fossil fuels if we want to slow the rate at which our climate change. "Everyone" knows that the planet's climate is changing. What isn't entirely clear is how much of that is due to naturally occurring cycles and to what extent it's being influenced by human behaviours.

The extinction of the human race on earth is pretty much a certainty. To believe otherwise is the ultimate hubris, but we are smart enough to delay the inevitable (perhaps) or smart enough to relocate to some other rock. Personally, I don't think Mars looks especially inviting, and I suspect ultimately it's only role will be to act as a lifeboat of sorts for a few people.

But yes, Greta is a little out there, and certainly her "plan" isn't realistic, but she has an entire generation behind her and they're the ones that are going to have to clean up the mess left by the industrial revolution.
 

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You don't seriously expect these teenage geniuses to have solutions to these issues, do you? Demands are the easy part, they are afraid to do the hard part. Or simply don't know how.
Her plan is to encourage people like you to listen to the scientists. I don’t think it’s working.
 

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As someone who works in the ocean and is very much involved with environmental issues, all I can say is that Greta isn't the first odd-ball to set off a movement. Every scientist (that isn't empolyed my big oil) agrees that we need to reduce and eventually eliminate our use of fossil fuels if we want to slow the rate at which our climate change. "Everyone" knows that the planet's climate is changing. What isn't entirely clear is how much of that is due to naturally occurring cycles and to what extent it's being influenced by human behaviours.

The extinction of the human race on earth is pretty much a certainty. To believe otherwise is the ultimate hubris, but we are smart enough to delay the inevitable (perhaps) or smart enough to relocate to some other rock. Personally, I don't think Mars looks especially inviting, and I suspect ultimately it's only role will be to act as a lifeboat of sorts for a few people.

But yes, Greta is a little out there, and certainly her "plan" isn't realistic, but she has an entire generation behind her and they're the ones that are going to have to clean up the mess left by the industrial revolution.
I don't believe anyone on the skeptic side of the argument is denying that. To label them deniers or beholden to big oil is simply a tactic of quashing debate. The radical left is guilty of this most of the time. What is sad about this is that Greta is being used as a tool by the radical environmental (eco-terrorist) movement. A movement that is anti humanity in its beliefs. First it was the population bomb scare. Then the ozone layer. Now its CO2 and soon it will be H2O.
 

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First it was the population bomb scare. Then the ozone layer. Now its CO2 and soon it will be H2O.
All of those things are serious threats to our well-being... population especially. But the ozone layer is showing signs that it's improving, presumably because of changes we made. CO2 levels continue to increase as do other "greenhouse gasses" and in some parts of the world, water is already a huge issue. Australia has been in a drought for years and it's basically on fire now. Sub-Saharan Africa has also been in a massive drought for years and this has led to wars and a massive growth in emigration to Europe. That will continue and lead to all sorts of grief...

Getting back to the Greta thing, young people are pissed. We have known for 30+ years that we were having a negative impact on our climate. More to the point, we know what the solutions are. They are simple. But they require a change in thinking. Many of the posts in this thread are typical of the behaviour that is preventing the introduction of the changes that need to happen. So kids are pissed, and before long they're going to be voting and taking political office and running companies.

There are always people that will argue against change. "We can't shut down the tar sands because it's great for Alberta's economy". Those are bullshit arguments and short-sited. We have been here before. When certain pesticides where destroying wildlife, big agriculture and even family farmers cried that without those pesticides, we were all going to starve. Bit we didn't.

The same has to happen to use of fossil fuels. We can start now and technology will likely find solutions to run cars and planes and ships...
 

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All of those things are serious threats to our well-being... population especially. But the ozone layer is showing signs that it's improving, presumably because of changes we made. CO2 levels continue to increase as do other "greenhouse gasses" and in some parts of the world, water is already a huge issue. Australia has been in a drought for years and it's basically on fire now. Sub-Saharan Africa has also been in a massive drought for years and this has led to wars and a massive growth in emigration to Europe. That will continue and lead to all sorts of grief...

Getting back to the Greta thing, young people are pissed. We have known for 30+ years that we were having a negative impact on our climate. More to the point, we know what the solutions are. They are simple. But they require a change in thinking. Many of the posts in this thread are typical of the behaviour that is preventing the introduction of the changes that need to happen. So kids are pissed, and before long they're going to be voting and taking political office and running companies.

There are always people that will argue against change. "We can't shut down the tar sands because it's great for Alberta's economy". Those are bullshit arguments and short-sited. We have been here before. When certain pesticides where destroying wildlife, big agriculture and even family farmers cried that without those pesticides, we were all going to starve. Bit we didn't.

The same has to happen to use of fossil fuels. We can start now and technology will likely find solutions to run cars and planes and ships...
Exactly, when the deniers point to the ozone layer they actually point to a perfect comparison.
Scientists pointed out the problems and governments reacted with regulations that cut down emissions to solve it.

Just like they did with acid rain.

A green revolution will be pricey, but it'll kick start the economy as well as end stupid middle eastern wars over oil.
Carbon taxes are the way to do it, its not rocket science.
Worrying about the sixth great extinction is another debate

Greta just started protesting at her school and it caught on, its the total opposite of the machinations of the opposition to change.
 

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Her plan is to encourage people like you to listen to the scientists. I don’t think it’s working.
Which scientist has told our political leaders to
end the use of oil? I've crossed path with myriads
of scientists including one who worked with the guy
who discovered the cause of the depletion of the
ozone layer. Virtually all of the scientists live life
like every one--they all drive, fly and have children.

If Thunberg's audience at the UN truly wants to
listen to the scientists they may as well pay David
Suzuki to give a talk there. Suzuki would be happy
to be given a free plane ticket for the trip.
 

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The extinction of the human race on earth is pretty much a certainty. To believe otherwise is the ultimate hubris, but we are smart enough to delay the inevitable.
Recorded history only goes back 5000-6000 years on earth. Some scientist believe that there have been past civilizations that we know little about. Is it possible that civilizations re-boot every 15000-25000 years on earth? Is the extinction of our civilization part of the natural order of things?


One day a future civilization will discover a clip of Greta addressing the UN and not understanding the language when the see her making an angry scowling face and making a fist when she utters - How dare you. They might come to the conclusion she is the ruling queen of the planet in our time, and she is somehow displeased with her subjects.
 
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