US-born Alabama woman who joined ISIS is not an American citizen, judge rules

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Nice !!! Let her settle her jihadi ass somewhere else...lots of Muslim countries. A Beauty of a decision


A federal judge ruled Thursday that an American-born woman who traveled to Syria to join the Islamic State (ISIS) group and now wants to return to her family in Alabama is not a U.S. citizen.

U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton dismissed a lawsuit brought by the family of Hoda Muthana to force the federal government to let her in the country.
Muthana, 25, currently lives with her 2-year-old son in a refugee camp in Syria and has since repudiated the terrorist group. A court motion said she and child, identified only as John Doe, were moved from the Roj refugee camp after receiving death threats from ISIS supporters and that their lives are in danger, The New York Times reported.

“The citizenship status of minor John Doe depends upon the status of Ms. Muthana; accordingly, regardless of the choices made by his mother, the health and survival of a young U.S. citizen depends upon the expeditious resolution of Ms. Muthana’s civil case,” the claim said.
In addition to dismissing a lawsuit, Walton also ruled that Muthana's father, Ahmed Ali Muthana, could not provide financial support to his daughter or grandson without being subject to charges of providing material support of terrorism.

Walton ruled that Ali Muthana, who formerly represented Yemen in the United Nations, is still a diplomat. Children born to diplomats are not granted automatic citizenship in the U.S.
Ali Muthana left his post before his daughter was born in 1994 in Hackensack, N.J., according to The Times. However, the federal government said it wasn't notified of the change until 1995 and stopped recognizing his diplomatic status only then.

Muthana's lawyer, Christina Jump, told BuzzFeed News that there was a "likely basis" to appeal Walton's ruling.
“While we are disappointed with and disagree with the court’s ruling today, this is not the end of our client’s legal options,” Jump said.
In 2014, Muthana withdrew from college and left her home in Alabama to travel to Syria after being radicalized by ISIS online. She promoted the group's ideology on social media and called on Muslims to commit attacks in America, such as drive-by shootings and attempts to assassinate former President Barack Obama.

While in Syria, she had a child with an ISIS fighter who was later killed.

She has since apologized for her actions and said she wishes to return to the U.S. In February, Muthana said she wanted to come home even if it meant facing charges. Her passport was canceled in 2016 under the Obama administration.
"I was really young and ignorant," Muthana said in an interview with the Guardian. "I believe that America gives second chances. I want to return, and I’ll never come back to the Middle East. America can take my passport and I wouldn’t mind.”
The case became politically-charged as it gained widespread notoriety.

The State Department had said she wasn't a citizen, and President Trump ordered Secretary of State Mike Pompeo not to let her in the country.
The judge said he received thousands of messages mostly "spewed with hate" and threats against him if he ruled in Muthana's favor. He described them as failed attempts to "intimidate the court."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-born-woman-who-joined-isis-not-american-citizen
 

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It should be noted that whatever her attachment to ISIS, that had nothing to do with the judge's ruling. It was all about whether or not her father was in the US as a foreign diplomat when she was born. The judge ruled that he was, so she didn't qualify for citizenship by right of birth. She never was a citizen.
 
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Nice !!! Let her settle her jihadi ass somewhere else...lots of Muslim countries. A Beauty of a decision


A federal judge ruled Thursday that an American-born woman who traveled to Syria to join the Islamic State (ISIS) group and now wants to return to her family in Alabama is not a U.S. citizen.

U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton dismissed a lawsuit brought by the family of Hoda Muthana to force the federal government to let her in the country.
Muthana, 25, currently lives with her 2-year-old son in a refugee camp in Syria and has since repudiated the terrorist group. A court motion said she and child, identified only as John Doe, were moved from the Roj refugee camp after receiving death threats from ISIS supporters and that their lives are in danger, The New York Times reported.

“The citizenship status of minor John Doe depends upon the status of Ms. Muthana; accordingly, regardless of the choices made by his mother, the health and survival of a young U.S. citizen depends upon the expeditious resolution of Ms. Muthana’s civil case,” the claim said.
In addition to dismissing a lawsuit, Walton also ruled that Muthana's father, Ahmed Ali Muthana, could not provide financial support to his daughter or grandson without being subject to charges of providing material support of terrorism.

Walton ruled that Ali Muthana, who formerly represented Yemen in the United Nations, is still a diplomat. Children born to diplomats are not granted automatic citizenship in the U.S.
Ali Muthana left his post before his daughter was born in 1994 in Hackensack, N.J., according to The Times. However, the federal government said it wasn't notified of the change until 1995 and stopped recognizing his diplomatic status only then.

Muthana's lawyer, Christina Jump, told BuzzFeed News that there was a "likely basis" to appeal Walton's ruling.
“While we are disappointed with and disagree with the court’s ruling today, this is not the end of our client’s legal options,” Jump said.
In 2014, Muthana withdrew from college and left her home in Alabama to travel to Syria after being radicalized by ISIS online. She promoted the group's ideology on social media and called on Muslims to commit attacks in America, such as drive-by shootings and attempts to assassinate former President Barack Obama.

While in Syria, she had a child with an ISIS fighter who was later killed.

She has since apologized for her actions and said she wishes to return to the U.S. In February, Muthana said she wanted to come home even if it meant facing charges. Her passport was canceled in 2016 under the Obama administration.
"I was really young and ignorant," Muthana said in an interview with the Guardian. "I believe that America gives second chances. I want to return, and I’ll never come back to the Middle East. America can take my passport and I wouldn’t mind.”
The case became politically-charged as it gained widespread notoriety.

The State Department had said she wasn't a citizen, and President Trump ordered Secretary of State Mike Pompeo not to let her in the country.
The judge said he received thousands of messages mostly "spewed with hate" and threats against him if he ruled in Muthana's favor. He described them as failed attempts to "intimidate the court."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-born-woman-who-joined-isis-not-american-citizen
Trudeau would of taken her back in a beat. Trump is not afraid to show the door to these terrorist supporters, he's got balls.
 
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Trudeau would of taken her back in a beat. Trump is not afraid to show the door to these terrorist supporters, he's got balls.
JT would even pay her to come back, as long as she said she loved him LOL
 

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It should be noted that whatever her attachment to ISIS, that had nothing to do with the judge's ruling. It was all about whether or not her father was in the US as a foreign diplomat when she was born. The judge ruled that he was, so she didn't qualify for citizenship by right of birth.
Good clarification. Nonetheless, how wonderful the decision is!!!

We must covet these victories of justice.
 

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Good clarification. Nonetheless, how wonderful the decision is!!!

We must covet these victories of justice.
You're still paying attention to him? Trump wanted her out because of her association with Isis make no mistake.
 

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You're still paying attention to him? Trump wanted her out because of her association with Isis make no mistake.
And once again the duly constituted laws, authorities and courts functioned just as we expect and want them to*: Without impending crisis, or need for extreme intervention From On High. Deep or shallow, the state functions as it should.

If you're trying to alert us to something other than civilized humans behaving normally, you need to find some other sources for your material.

We already know why Br'er Fox inserted the Trump into the tale.
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* She's thousands of miles away, in a camp in Syria, Obama cancelled her passport years ago, the Department of State had already determined she isn't a citizen, and now a federal judge has ruled they were correct.
 

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Nice !!! Let her settle her jihadi ass somewhere else...lots of Muslim countries. A Beauty of a decision


A federal judge ruled Thursday that an American-born woman who traveled to Syria to join the Islamic State (ISIS) group and now wants to return to her family in Alabama is not a U.S. citizen.

U.S. District Court Judge Reggie Walton dismissed a lawsuit brought by the family of Hoda Muthana to force the federal government to let her in the country.
Muthana, 25, currently lives with her 2-year-old son in a refugee camp in Syria and has since repudiated the terrorist group. A court motion said she and child, identified only as John Doe, were moved from the Roj refugee camp after receiving death threats from ISIS supporters and that their lives are in danger, The New York Times reported.

“The citizenship status of minor John Doe depends upon the status of Ms. Muthana; accordingly, regardless of the choices made by his mother, the health and survival of a young U.S. citizen depends upon the expeditious resolution of Ms. Muthana’s civil case,” the claim said.
In addition to dismissing a lawsuit, Walton also ruled that Muthana's father, Ahmed Ali Muthana, could not provide financial support to his daughter or grandson without being subject to charges of providing material support of terrorism.

Walton ruled that Ali Muthana, who formerly represented Yemen in the United Nations, is still a diplomat. Children born to diplomats are not granted automatic citizenship in the U.S.
Ali Muthana left his post before his daughter was born in 1994 in Hackensack, N.J., according to The Times. However, the federal government said it wasn't notified of the change until 1995 and stopped recognizing his diplomatic status only then.

Muthana's lawyer, Christina Jump, told BuzzFeed News that there was a "likely basis" to appeal Walton's ruling.
“While we are disappointed with and disagree with the court’s ruling today, this is not the end of our client’s legal options,” Jump said.
In 2014, Muthana withdrew from college and left her home in Alabama to travel to Syria after being radicalized by ISIS online. She promoted the group's ideology on social media and called on Muslims to commit attacks in America, such as drive-by shootings and attempts to assassinate former President Barack Obama.

While in Syria, she had a child with an ISIS fighter who was later killed.

She has since apologized for her actions and said she wishes to return to the U.S. In February, Muthana said she wanted to come home even if it meant facing charges. Her passport was canceled in 2016 under the Obama administration.
"I was really young and ignorant," Muthana said in an interview with the Guardian. "I believe that America gives second chances. I want to return, and I’ll never come back to the Middle East. America can take my passport and I wouldn’t mind.”
The case became politically-charged as it gained widespread notoriety.

The State Department had said she wasn't a citizen, and President Trump ordered Secretary of State Mike Pompeo not to let her in the country.
The judge said he received thousands of messages mostly "spewed with hate" and threats against him if he ruled in Muthana's favor. He described them as failed attempts to "intimidate the court."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-born-woman-who-joined-isis-not-american-citizen
She wanted to assassinate Barack Obama; I’m surprised you’re not a fan?
 

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You're still paying attention to him? Trump wanted her out because of her association with Isis make no mistake.
And the law only allows it because her family were registered as international diplomats at the time of her birth.

Trump had absolutely zero say in the decision.
 
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