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Do NOT use LeoList. They hacked my Cel phone

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Use private browsing or incognito mode for unscrupulous websites.
Private or incognito mode is a feature that has a misleading name. Actually, it only prevents your browsing history and things like cookies to be recorded on the device you're using. Someone using your device will not see the sites you visited while you were in incognito. But don't forget, it doesn't cover your tracks in the web. Your IP number is still be recorded on routers, ISP providers and on the servers you visit.
 

MarkSt09

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I can give some insight into this I guess.

I work in the Internet/Media Privacy and Security sector.

Leolist didn't "hack" your phone. The only way Leolist could have had access to your private information would be if you had signed up with it. Visiting a website doesn't give them enough info for the to "hack" you, this isn't the Matrix trilogy. A website can’t do anything actively to your device without your consent these days besides gather basic metadata (which browser used and IP address), the most a website can get without any input is a rough location where you are and that you’re using Firefox or something. Also maybe basic PC specs. If you are saying that you did not registered for anything, we are down to two possible scenarios:

1) An escort that you have contacted is trying to extort you. This is most likely what happened and it can also be revenant to scenario #2.

2) You have been pwned. Since you are saying you didn't sign up to LeoList and there hasn't been any security breach reported from them, it's most likely your phone number (I assume you use your personal number for hobbying), email or other "social media/newsletter/ordinary information" has been leaked. You can find if you have been pwned here: https://haveibeenpwned.com/. I recently had my Netflix and Hulu accounts hacked thanks to being pwned. It's shit but happens to everyone.

If your phone number is registered within any social media, it's also very likely someone googled your number and found out your info.

At the end, this is a simple case of extortion. LeoList wouldn't come after you. What are they going to gain from extorting a random civilian? If Justin Trudeau had used LeoList and, somehow, that information was made available... Now that would make more sense, right?

My advice to you is: 1) Don't use your personal number/email/device for hobbying. 2) Check if you have been pwned. 3) Be careful booking unknown SPs. 4) Report the extortion to police (if you are legitimately worried about it).

Good luck.
 

MarkSt09

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Hey Mark, thanks.

What would be different whether someone registered on leolist versus not having done so?
Information. If they signed up and LeoList had a possible data breach (don't think it happened), that information could be sold or made public somewhere. Think the Facebook scandal or Equifax data breach. But even then, that data wouldn't look like:

Name: John Smith
Phone: 555-555-5555
Address: 1234 Sundown Lane


It would be a bunch of code within millions of other code that someone would have to break down and at the end nobody has time for that, most people just want your email to use your subscription services.

If OP is worried about LeoList getting their info, the same could be said about Terb and being honest, there are way more personal info in this website. As long as people are careful with their personal info, they shouldn't be worried about being doxxed.
 

StillROAMing

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My advice to you is: 1) Don't use your personal number/email/device for hobbying.
What if someone hobbies using their personal smartphone but contacting providers through a text app, how safe is it compared to not using a text app?
 

MarkSt09

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What if someone hobbies using their personal smartphone but contacting providers through a text app, how safe is it compared to not using a text app?
That would be fine, I suppose. As long as you didn't use your personal info when you signed up for that text app service. The issue would be text data being stored somewhere, for example, WhatsApp says they don't store your conversations, data is encrypted. If the data from those text apps are not encrypted, if it was to leak, it wouldn't be too hard to break down the code. But again, this is not common. Most people are relatively safe, Facebook and other social media have more on you than a text app.
 

MarkSt09

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How can Leolist know your address whether you register or not?

And what if the registration (and ANY other hobby activities) are done with a hobby only designated email account and with a corresponding text app?

Thanks for the insight Mark!
I think you got it wrong. LeoList has no information on you just by having your device accessing their page. As I said above

"A website can’t do anything actively to your device without your consent these days besides gather basic metadata (which browser used and IP address), the most a website can get without any input is a rough location where you are and that you’re using Firefox or something. Also maybe basic PC specs"

This is everything they would know from you if you just visited their website. IF you made an account with your entire information (I don't know what they request when signing up), then, obviously, they would have whatever you gave them but that information would most likely be encrypted.

Using a throwaway email is fine, that's what I do for anything online (subscriptions, etc). My emails usually go: "thisismarksnetflixemail@gmail.com", if that makes sense.
 

MarkSt09

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Good to hear.

So if WE don't provide THEM with any personal information, and we use a hobby email (and text app), then there's nothing to worry in terms of them digging in and finding any sensitive info?

I hope I got it right this time lol

Thanks.
Yes. Maybe bad metaphor but: It would be the same as walking into a store. They would know what you were wearing, what time you visited but they won't know your name, phone number etc
 

Gntlmn

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I am not an idiot.
But could you be wrong about who the source is? I have a feeling if someone knows you they know exactly the buttons to push to get you going and maybe you're just being punked right now by a friend?
 
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