Hobbying in the States and London Vs. Toronto

[Macbo3]

Hey Forum! Thought I’d talk about this in case anyone was interested.

Las Vegas:

My first attempt to see an SP was Las Vegas years ago. Never do it. It’s awful. Las Vegas calls itself “sin city” but it’s “scam city.”

Basically, top agency girls will insist you go to the ATM and then they will negotiate everything to try to get every penny from you, and when they realize you have nothing left they leave even if the session isn’t over. And of course, the girls use stock photos so it’s always a surprise.

The first girl took $250 booking fee and left once she realized I wouldn’t pay more. I called the other bookings and was informed that this is how it worked. Girls get to up-charge and $250 only means she will show up.

London:

London was better, but still problematic. All the agency girls are heavily photoshopped. More than anything I’ve seen. Also, 100% of the girls get 100% positive reviews on the boards. So in other words, the review boards are fake too. And so many scams. I’d say I discovered about 80% of the photos of Indys were really Instagram models after I searched Google. Also, big problems figuring out who speaks english.

There is some good stuff in London for people who know the scene. There are exclusive review boards that seem okay. Some Indys are good. Lots of Asian and East Indian girls. But it’s hard work figuring it out.

Toronto:
It’s great here. TERB reviews are 100% reliable in my experience. The community is super helpful. The girls also know what they’re doing. Tons of great girls. There’s no comparison.

Would love to hear about other great cities for hobbying that you’ve visited. I imagine Toronto/Montreal can’t be the only great ones. But wow, compared to here, Las Vegas and London are awful.

 

[black booty lover]

Hey Forum! Thought I’d talk about this in case anyone was interested.

Las Vegas:

My first attempt to see an SP was Las Vegas years ago. Never do it. It’s awful. Las Vegas calls itself “sin city” but it’s “scam city.”

Basically, top agency girls will insist you go to the ATM and then they will negotiate everything to try to get every penny from you, and when they realize you have nothing left they leave even if the session isn’t over. And of course, the girls use stock photos so it’s always a surprise.

The first girl took $250 booking fee and left once she realized I wouldn’t pay more. I called the other bookings and was informed that this is how it worked. Girls get to up-charge and $250 only means she will show up.

London:

London was better, but still problematic. All the agency girls are heavily photoshopped. More than anything I’ve seen. Also, 100% of the girls get 100% positive reviews on the boards. So in other words, the review boards are fake too. And so many scams. I’d say I discovered about 80% of the photos of Indys were really Instagram models after I searched Google. Also, big problems figuring out who speaks english.

There is some good stuff in London for people who know the scene. There are exclusive review boards that seem okay. Some Indys are good. Lots of Asian and East Indian girls. But it’s hard work figuring it out.

Toronto:
It’s great here. TERB reviews are 100% reliable in my experience. The community is super helpful. The girls also know what they’re doing. Tons of great girls. There’s no comparison.

Would love to hear about other great cities for hobbying that you’ve visited. I imagine Toronto/Montreal can’t be the only great ones. But wow, compared to here, Las Vegas and London are awful.

I wouldn't hobby anywhere is the u.s period. It's just a bad place to hobby. BTW, I went to Vegas, and the two guys I went with decided to call over some escorts, exact same thing happen to them as your experience. I went down to casino for a few hours. I come back up and the two of them are getting drunk with totally pissed off look on their faces, then they tell me what happened.


If you want to know about other cities, there's a separate section here on TERB dedicated to it. I suggest you check it out.

 

[VERYBADBOY]

I have hobbied in all three and have posted experiences that users should follow but they didn't:

LV: if you have game you won't fall for that shit, girls can tell who the easy prey are ... you had sources for info now they are lost. I used to live there and still have a house but was hobbying there before the move but I know a hustle when I see it and avoid it. Best part is that there are a lot of reliable SP who tour LV so you can avoid the local hustlers.

UK: Yeah hobby there too have loads of reviews plus lived there too. Some comments: on site reviews are fake, many board reviews are shills. Photoshop happens everywhere even here as well as B&S of IG just check LL and the Classified forum but lots of indies with real pics that are verified. The variety can be best. Too many things to throw at you that you have to wade through without a guide. Boards are dominated unless private and screened.

TO: no place like home.

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[kherg007]

Refuse to do usa. London good, but harder to find legit reviews but try punternet.com. TO the best!

 

[canada-man]

avoid the anti-sex states of america

 

[Worf]

Well, I have never been to London but I think that being with a blonde in London with a British accent would sound sooo sexy ...

 

[kherg007]

Well, I have never been to London but I think that being with a blonde in London with a British accent would sound sooo sexy ...

Try an ebony lady w a Britsh accent...strewth!

 

[black booty lover]

Try an ebony lady w a Britsh accent...strewth!

I hate to say this and hope there's no British people on here, but I haaaaate English accents. I can't even watch porn if they English accents. Like nails on a chalkboard. I remember this one time when CL listed SP's. I found this one totally hot ebony. I called her and she had a British accent. It killed me cause she was so hot. I just ask her for rates and menu, then said I'll think it over....lol.

 

[Worf]

I hate to say this and hope there's no British people on here, but I haaaaate English accents. I can't even watch porn if they English accents. Like nails on a chalkboard. I remember this one time when CL listed SP's. I found this one totally hot ebony. I called her and she had a British accent. It killed me cause she was so hot. I just ask her for rates and menu, then said I'll think it over....lol.

I also like the east European or Russian accent. But I'd still do the blonde Brit....

 

[kherg007]

I hate to say this and hope there's no British people on here, but I haaaaate English accents. I can't even watch porn if they English accents. Like nails on a chalkboard. I remember this one time when CL listed SP's. I found this one totally hot ebony. I called her and she had a British accent. It killed me cause she was so hot. I just ask her for rates and menu, then said I'll think it over....lol.

Omg...we finally disagree brother BBL .....lol

 

[VERYBADBOY]

Try an ebony lady w a Britsh accent...strewth!

There are many different types of English accents ... think My Fair Lady ... some are sexy and others are abhorrent. Check the example below

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyyT2jmVPAk

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[hoorawr]

Vegas is full of pimps and scammers... I fell for the $300 usd just to get the girl in the door scam

NYC is even better than toronto, the agency girls are hot as hell and the agency bookers are great.. but you need to spend minimum 600$... usd

Toronto is still the best imo, 240$/hour for young pussy


Europe / Sourh America are excellent too... don’t even need agencies just flaunt your money and negotiate with girls straight up lol

 

[black booty lover]

There are many different types of English accents ... think My Fair Lady ... some are sexy and others are abhorrent. Check the example below

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FyyT2jmVPAk

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I'm aware there are many types of English accents, just like there are different Canadian accents, but I hate them all....lol.

 

[black booty lover]

Vegas is full of pimps and scammers... I fell for the $300 usd just to get the girl in the door scam

NYC is even better than toronto, the agency girls are hot as hell and the agency bookers are great.. but you need to spend minimum 600$... usd

Toronto is still the best imo, 240$/hour for young pussy


Europe / Sourh America are excellent too... don’t even need agencies just flaunt your money and negotiate with girls straight up lol

The thing I loved about Brazil, they are there tanning on the beach so from a physical stand point, you know exactly what your getting. Generally speaking, once you go up to them and start the negotiating process, you also get an idea of the personality.

 

[Patron]

Question. I agree with VeryBadBoy that several of us, including him, have contributed to the Terb Other Cities forum on who to see in Las Vegas.

Kind of the same concept with London. There are trusted posters on ISG who provide very good reviews of the London scene, particularly of Diva Escorts.

All the guys here research the hell out of the Toronto market. While great respect is of course given to anyone Taking One for the Team and seeing a previously unreviewed lady, most guys see reviewed Toronto escorts.

But guys will pick up casino ladies in Vegas and get escorts from cards handed out on the strip, which are known to be where the rip-offs occur.

But it would seem that more research would be done in markets where prices are highest and law-enforcement activity is greatest. But the opposite seems to be the case. Toronto is researched the most, Las Vegas the least, and London in between.

Is it because guys don’t know where to look for research?

 

[someone]

I have not hobbied in London but I have in other British cities (e.g Birmingham, Stoke, etc). What I like is that with the brothels you can go in, see the different girls and get some choice. Generally, I found that what they post is not that different than what you see when you come in. Not all places are the same. In Stoke, one of the first places I went to only had one girl on who was not very attractive. However, I never returned and became a semi regular at another place that always had a couple of good girls to choose from.
The thing about brothels is that if you really don't like the selection, you don't have to stay. Generally, you don't pay until you get in the room with them. I was never upcharged. I really preferred it to Toronto.

 

[squeezer]

Only places I will hobby are Toronto/Montreal, most Caribbean Islands, Germany, Colombia, Panama, Cuba and Asian countries.

In the US it's strictly civvies.

 

[VERYBADBOY]

I'm aware there are many types of English accents, just like there are different Canadian accents, but I hate them all....lol.

Hmmm ... Pity

Question. I agree with VeryBadBoy that several of us, including him, have contributed to the Terb Other Cities forum on who to see in Las Vegas.

Kind of the same concept with London. There are trusted posters on ISG who provide very good reviews of the London scene, particularly of Diva Escorts.

All the guys here research the hell out of the Toronto market. While great respect is of course given to anyone Taking One for the Team and seeing a previously unreviewed lady, most guys see reviewed Toronto escorts.

But guys will pick up casino ladies in Vegas and get escorts from cards handed out on the strip, which are known to be where the rip-offs occur.

But it would seem that more research would be done in markets where prices are highest and law-enforcement activity is greatest. But the opposite seems to be the case. Toronto is researched the most, Las Vegas the least, and London in between.

Is it because guys don’t know where to look for research?

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Yes partially the mindset but many times boards can't be trusted and they are still prone to manipulation especially ISG as well as others when it comes to international. In terms of US it got hit by Fosta and many boards didn't come back ... lots of info for those niche markets which was lost to the general public, unless the owners took a final payment for their database and a copy of the hard drive was given to a private board and assimilated into theirs ... years back I made a list of loads of these and posted it into a thread here, I'd be surprised if a small fraction exists today. The problem is effort on the part of the members here to support anything beyond our borders similar to what we do locally... ex. The LV scam is easily avoided by asking the fee structure upfront if it changes the hotel security will be glad to escort the escort off the the premises as they don't take likely to their customers being scammed of $$ that they would rather you lose on their properties.

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