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Butler1000

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Arguing endlessly against facts with one's personal opinion is never an intelligent discussion, it's an attempt at misinformation. It's what Butler does consistently and a tactic many right wing nutbars use to try to counter facts.
Ever heard of the Phrase "Mood of the Electorate".

Not alot of fact there. But it is the one of the primary tells of who will win an election.
 

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I’m sure he does, after all he inherited a Senate seat from the old man.

Biden struck again today....

Biden says he was VP at time of Parkland shooting in latest campaign gaffe

The 76-year-old Biden, who left the vice presidency in 2017, was talking about gun violence with reporters in Iowa when he said that “those kids in Parkland came up to see me when I was vice president" after the shooting that left 14 students and three educators dead.

A campaign official told Bloomberg that Biden was thinking of the December 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn. that left 20 young children and six staff members dead.


Oh man......
 

doggystyle99

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Ever heard of the Phrase "Mood of the Electorate".

Not alot of fact there. But it is the one of the primary tells of who will win an election.
This is why you are called MakeShitUpAsYouGoButler.

Now you are using the mood of the electorate as your defense. You've been spewing the same opinions the following day after Trump took office in 2017 and that is not the mood of the electorate for an upcoming election. You keep excusing Trump's trade policies and bullying other countries which have caused trade wars and will not be resolved anytime soon (China), that is not the mood of the electorate.
You keep excusing and minimizing Trump's chum behaviour with brutal regimes (Saudis), that is not the mood of the electorate.
You keep minimizing and excusing Trump's racist, narcissistic and bigoted daily rhetoric which divides American's further and further on a daily basis, based on their ethnicity, political beliefs, race, religion, and sexuality. When he is called out for it. Although I have to give you credit you do it in a slimey and sneaky way that only a few were noticing your nonsense until now.
Most importantly of all you keep yelling about MSM and fake news while quoting loony tunes websites and Youtube videos one after another as a source to back up your opinions, again non of this is based on fact but rather based solely on your opinions.


I've already told you this numerous times, regardless of who will win the 2020 election you will be spewing the same nonsense. Constantly talking about the Clinton's, and how evil the Domocrats are while trying to defend your super hero Trump.
 

Butler1000

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This is why you are called MakeShitUpAsYouGoButler.

Now you are using the mood of the electorate as your defense. You've been spewing the same opinions the following day after Trump took office in 2017 and that is not the mood of the electorate for an upcoming election. You keep excusing Trump's trade policies and bullying other countries which have caused trade wars and will not be resolved anytime soon (China), that is not the mood of the electorate.
You keep excusing and minimizing Trump's chum behaviour with brutal regimes (Saudis), that is not the mood of the electorate.
You keep minimizing and excusing Trump's racist, narcissistic and bigoted daily rhetoric which divides American's further and further on a daily basis, based on their ethnicity, political beliefs, race, religion, and sexuality. When he is called out for it. Although I have to give you credit you do it in a slimey and sneaky way that only a few were noticing your nonsense until now.
Most importantly of all you keep yelling about MSM and fake news while quoting loony tunes websites and Youtube videos one after another as a source to back up your opinions, again non of this is based on fact but rather based solely on your opinions.


I've already told you this numerous times, regardless of who will win the 2020 election you will be spewing the same nonsense. Constantly talking about the Clinton's, and how evil the Domocrats are while trying to defend your super hero Trump.
Actually I agree with Trump's trade policies. His delivery of them suck but the theory behind them.

Fact is govt's have allowed multinational corporations to degrade their power in the name if corporate profits. To the point of reshaping foreign policy.

Case in point is SNC Lavalin who they were going to let off because of corporate profits. And anyone who says "oh no it was jobs" is a bullshitter. Multinationals don't care about workers, they will just move locations and continue on.

These multination trade pacts impact immigration policy, ability to sanction bad nation actors, and the money thrown to politicians to the point they stop serving their nation's best interests.

As to the rest quite simply you are way off. It's rare I comment on the tweets, and daily outrage machine the MSM has built to drive ratings( and that's exactly what it is). It's just mouse at this point, and lazy reporting.

They don't comment on the opiod crisis, the city water crisises, the millions of homeless, overcharging by pharmaceutical companies, the horrible treatment if Veterans.

It's 24/7 That Trump's! Reality show. They aren't fighting him. They are ENABLING HIM.

And you have fallen for it Hook line and sinker. You actually think warmongers like Clinton, Biden, Bush and yes even Obama(the Drone strike on innocent civilians destroy Libya king) are good for the USA and the world.

6 trillion spent on foreign wars, and Americans without enough to eat.

And you support that. That's what you support when you support these party hacks. In both parties.

Spare me your sermons. You are just an uninformed sheep.
 

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They don't comment on the opiod crisis, the city water crisises, the millions of homeless, overcharging by pharmaceutical companies, the horrible treatment if Veterans.

It's 24/7 That Trump's! Reality show. They aren't fighting him. They are ENABLING HIM.

And you have fallen for it Hook line and sinker. You actually think warmongers like Clinton, Biden, Bush and yes even Obama(the Drone strike on innocent civilians destroy Libya king) are good for the USA and the world.

6 trillion spent on foreign wars, and Americans without enough to eat.

And you support that. That's what you support when you support these party hacks. In both parties.

Spare me your sermons. You are just an uninformed sheep.
You are enabling Trump, as he ignores the opiod issue, makes water issues much bigger through attacks on the EPA, adds to homeless through cutting services...
On top of that, Trump increased the military massively, bombing more civilians around the world and threatening new wars in Iran and Venezuela.

You are the sheeple here.
 

Butler1000

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You are enabling Trump, as he ignores the opiod issue, makes water issues much bigger through attacks on the EPA, adds to homeless through cutting services...
On top of that, Trump increased the military massively, bombing more civilians around the world and threatening new wars in Iran and Venezuela.

You are the sheeple here.
Lol. I support Sanders.

You don't because you are Anti Semetic. Right Groggy?

I expect Republicans to act the way they do. They don't apologize for it. But when Democrats claim to be for the working Class and the same shit happens in states they control then they are just like the GOP.

Sanders is actually going to try to change it. Biden won't, Harris won't, Mayor Pete the verbal oatmeal man won't. And Warren supports the arms makers so she won't either.

Bernie and Gabbard are the real deal.
 

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Lol. I support Sanders.

You don't because you are Anti Semetic. Right Groggy?

I expect Republicans to act the way they do. They don't apologize for it. But when Democrats claim to be for the working Class and the same shit happens in states they control then they are just like the GOP.

Sanders is actually going to try to change it. Biden won't, Harris won't, Mayor Pete the verbal oatmeal man won't. And Warren supports the arms makers so she won't either.

Bernie and Gabbard are the real deal.
Trump supporting Bernie Bros have forfeited the Right to be Taken Seriously.

:(
 

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Lol. I support Sanders.

You don't because you are Anti Semetic.
total troll post, butler.

I preferred Sanders to Clinton and Clinton to Trump.
Now, Sanders is too old and Warren clearer and with more forward thinking policies.

If anyone's racist in this conversation, its the person backing the white supremacists.
 

Butler1000

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Btw guys feel free to check out the Joe Rogan one hour interview commercial free with Sanders on you tube.

It's now at 7.5 million Views and climbing in less than a week. And the iTunes podcast is at #1 as well.

Judging from the comments section ( 100,000's of them) I'd say he just increased his supporters substantially.
 

Butler1000

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total troll post, butler.

I preferred Sanders to Clinton and Clinton to Trump.
Now, Sanders is too old and Warren clearer and with more forward thinking policies.

If anyone's racist in this conversation, its the person backing the white supremacists.
Warren backs the war mongers. Her votes for military appropriations show that.

And while she is a good policy wonk she doesn't have have the Charisma, authenticity, record, and fire that Sanders has.

Not even close.
 

Butler1000

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Naive.
Were those votes on deals involving other issues or solitary votes?
Solitary military appropriations bills. Big ones with increases. Including the ones under Trump. With no verbal or written opposition on record.

But her little state has a decent sized mitary contractor industry. So she is quite willing to trade overseas lives and poor people assistance at home for them.
 

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You are correct in no supporter of Trump. You are correct I enjoy throwing cold water on simplistic and stupid posting, as well as obvious media talking points.
So why do you never throw cold water on the stupid shit posted by Kathleen, McNasty and others of their ilk?

That I end up annoying others isn't the goal, it's a by-product of being right. It's their rigid adherence to the supposed left/right talking points and no straying now! That makes it easy to out their own hypocrisy.
That's another thing that pisses people off. Your arrogance. You really are insufferable. You probably never learned to play with other kids when you were young. The thing is you are not always right - far from it. Some of the stuff you post is just nonsense.
 

Butler1000

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Please note in some years when Obama was in office she voted for increases. Also note she declined to vote in opposing transfers to Saudi Arabia recently. And declined to vote in the last defense bill as well.

And in the times she did vote against it it was decided with most Democrats voting for (remember that as well).

She certainly doesn't have a perfect record by far.
 

Butler1000

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So why do you never throw cold water on the stupid shit posted by Kathleen, McNasty and others of their ilk?



That's another thing that pisses people off. Your arrogance. You really are insufferable. You probably never learned to play with other kids when you were young. The thing is you are not always right - far from it. Some of the stuff you post is just nonsense.
I don't bother throwing cold water on what some posters say because I would just be joining a chorus. And most of what they post is once again just about the latest partisan outrage machine the press revels in.

Phil does his daily Stock market posts, the Bver does his. Big deal. Stick markets fluctuate.

Kathleen posts articles that are news stories about daily events. And other are happy to spin them. Big deal....

I see the the two party system and Congress as the real problem. They control the money. And the powerful committees. They also are in fact the law makers. So whenever you see an Injustice it's because Congress failed to act.

Most people are mistaken in the power of the WH. Especially on domestic issues.

And they need to be informed of their errors.

I stand by my beliefs. And whether you agree or not really doesn't matter to me. Feel free to post to attempt to make your case.

All I see you doing is an occasional foray into this section. Whine about who is posting what. With no real opinions given, just a bit of regurgitation and then nothing.

I post here because I enjoy it. Walk away if you don't.
 
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