And today's mass shooting 11 dead in Virginia Beach Municipal Complex

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Queue all the "our thoughts and prayers" tweets, speeches, TV reports, etc. etc. etc.
 
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Need more information about the shooter to assess why he did what he did to get a better idea of prevention (if it's even possible).
 
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Can't blame Trump for this one. Virginia voted Clinton in 2016.

Condolences to the families and friends.
 
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Very sad day indeed for the family members and victim of this horrific tragedy. My heart and prayers goes out to the family of the victims and the perpetrator family.

"People, unfortunately, kill people. Guns, only, makes it easier. We have to find a solution to this problem of excessive firearms in the wrong hands."

May there souls rest in peace.
 
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Were you born this hateful and bigoted towards the U.S. James? Just curious

As far as this shooting goes so vey sad yes. Now let's hear soem concrete would be solutions instead of the old N.R.A and Second Amendment have to go et al

You know whose guns should be regulated the most? Police officers. They get away with killing more innocents than the Nazi's

Yes I am a hard-righty who loves guns which is why I HATE incidents like this

Good day
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He left out no gun control legislation brought on by all the carnage due to guns.
 
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whitewaterguy said:
Nothing newsworthy here. Just another day in USA . Pass the peas
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Another horrible shooting event. Sadly I feel you have a valid POV. I just looked at CNN and MSN and it`s the same old, same old. They are examining it from every angle, etc. blah blah. It`s the same endless repetitive talking heads bullshit, will anything change?...no.
 
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RZG said:
Another horrible shooting event. Sadly I feel you have a valid POV. I just looked at CNN and MSN and it`s the same old, same old. They are examining it from every angle, etc. blah blah. It`s the same endless repetitive talking heads bullshit, will anything change?...no.
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And that's why we need to keep hearing and seeing it until we finally do something to help reduce these types of violence.
 
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kid_kuh said:
And that's why we need to keep hearing and seeing it until we finally do something to help reduce these types of violence.
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That`s all well and good but how many dead is enough? I really don`t see anything changing. Did all this mass shooting start with Whitman in 1966 at the U of Texas/ Austin, modern era anyway? The dead and wounded count must be well over 1000, maybe 2000 since then. Holy shit man...if they can`t figure it out by now...
 
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Smallcock said:
Need more information about the shooter to assess why he did what he did to get a better idea of prevention (if it's even possible).
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Why?

Prevention isn't that hard: Less guns

Doesn't matter why they are mad/crazy, just have less guns available.
 
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Frankfooter said:
Why?

Prevention isn't that hard: Less guns

Doesn't matter why they are mad/crazy, just have less guns available.
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And Trump has made that possible. Firearms sales have been down under the Trump administration, unlike the Obama administration which saw output double.

Unfortunately, thanks to Obama, the greatest gun salesman in U.S. history because of his efforts at pushing gun control, there are now 40 million more guns in the U.S. than there are people.

Firearms sales in the U.S is an inverse relationship to restrictions. Any talk of more restrictions or bans drives panic gun sales. Doing nothing is the most effective strategy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-child-and-then-some/?utm_term=.604209c6a575

Any effort at firearms confiscation would likely result in civil war in the U.S. as Americans are not as passive as Canadians.
 
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poorboy said:
And Trump has made that possible. Firearms sales have been down under the Trump administration, unlike the Obama administration which saw output double.

Unfortunately, thanks to Obama, the greatest gun salesman in U.S. history because of his efforts at pushing gun control, there are now 40 million more guns in the U.S. than there are people.

Firearms sales in the U.S is an inverse relationship to restrictions. Any talk of more restrictions or bans drives panic gun sales. Doing nothing is the most effective strategy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-child-and-then-some/?utm_term=.604209c6a575

Any effort at firearms confiscation would likely result in civil war in the U.S. as Americans are not as passive as Canadians.
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You mean the Obama that caused all the 'good citizens of Murikkka' to state no n*&#$* is gonna take their guns and started to stock pile them?

Ok then!
 
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Frankfooter said:
Why?

Prevention isn't that hard: Less guns

Doesn't matter why they are mad/crazy, just have less guns available.
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That's the craziest thing I've ever read.

You really think that you're going to get rid of 340 million firearms in the USA??? Try it and the only people that will have the guns are people like this mass shooter.

Be realistic!
 
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derrick76 said:
You mean the Obama that caused all the 'good citizens of Murikkka' to state no n*&#$* is gonna take their guns and started to stock pile them?

Ok then!
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Not sure what you are saying.

I addressed the issue that the solution of less guns, which implies that Americans should have guns taken away from them.

Obama holds no position in government now, so had far less influence on gun control

My last statement was that any efforts to take away guns could likely result in civil war, which is an unsuccessful outcome.
 
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poorboy said:
And Trump has made that possible. Firearms sales have been down under the Trump administration, unlike the Obama administration which saw output double.

Unfortunately, thanks to Obama, the greatest gun salesman in U.S. history because of his efforts at pushing gun control, there are now 40 million more guns in the U.S. than there are people.

Firearms sales in the U.S is an inverse relationship to restrictions. Any talk of more restrictions or bans drives panic gun sales. Doing nothing is the most effective strategy.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...d-child-and-then-some/?utm_term=.604209c6a575

Any effort at firearms confiscation would likely result in civil war in the U.S. as Americans are not as passive as Canadians.
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Are you seriously blaming Obama for an increase in gun sales? LOL

Correlation is not causation. All of the crazies started buying guns the moment he got elected. Can't have a black president you know...end of times and all that.

I truly believe its stupid to blame any president for this insanity. Insane people do insane things. That has nothing to do with presidents. But lawmakers have a duty to protect society. They can do so by trying to ensure that crazy people have less access to guns. May not have helped in this case, but could have saved lives in the past and in the future.
 
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