Interesting post. Your statement on supply of provider is greater than demand from clients seem to have no basis.
Also, if you have to wonder how things work then you wouldn't be that good with logic.
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Katrinna Blue review - March 1, 2018
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Also, if you have to wonder how things work then you wouldn't be that good with logic.
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Hi Malika,
Constructively and without prejudice, I'm afraid I have to challenge your comment or your belief of what OIC is telling you. OIC doesn't just share a blacklist, they share the details and handles of the blacklisted client. And with any database on the internet, it's vulnerable to security and confidentiality breaches.
I have seen ladies from OIC and will continue to see ladies from OIC main reason because I know I'm going to walk out safe I dont have to worry about someone jumping out of the closet to rob u
Hey old saying if you dont like my gate dont swing on it I applaud the ladies for providing safe environments for their clients
Hey old saying if you dont like my gate dont swing on it I applaud the ladies for providing safe environments for their clients
I agree. Also the thread has gone so far off topic it doesn’t even serve a purpose anymore. Isn’t this place moderated?
I have Asperger’s Syndrome and anxiety. I’m guessing you’re “normal”?
The OIC passed judgment on me and refuse to talk it out. I want to support their cause but they want no part of me. If every legitimate SP goes OIC, who will I be able to see? I’ll have to go the Sugar Baby route.
Fiora Manson, the OIC leader, didn’t want to see me based on my Twitter feed. Ridiculous because my Twitter feed has never gotten dinged for anything. She apparently had a problem with my criticism of Conservatives. She then had the gall to call me a “danger to her”. What the?
Then this lady goes on Twitter to destroy my reputation because she couldn’t take it that somebody dared call her “arrogant”. Nobody wants to see me now because this insensitive and unprofessional woman needed to go on social media and rip me apart to other SPs. She should have kept it to herself but she felt I needed to be made an example of.
That’s OIC. They don’t care about their potential clients’ feelings. I can’t contact these ladies to make amends.
All this can be fixed easily but they’re too full of themselves to engage in dialogue.
Of course, the OIC people don’t want to step on the toes of other OIC people. You have to toe the line. They would probably kick somebody out of there if they agreed to see me.
I've seen 6 of the OIC ladies since it was founded, some multiple times. Each experience was characterized as follows:
- great ease and pleasantness of communication
- reference from another OIC provider brought prompt acceptance
- excellent timeliness of appointment
- upscale incalls with nice mood (music, candles)
- personable, courteous, affectionate provider
- excellent appearance and hygiene
- no interruptions during appointment (phones, text)
- performance as agreed (of course this varies by lady and whether MA or SP)
I only encountered one who failed to even respond to several requests to meet (despite my very gentlemanly approach). I since discovered via terb that she similarly hadn't responded to another potential client's request. She left OIC in relatively short order. Range of services and pricing varies and tends to be a bit higher than from some non-OIC members....you make your choices. This is NOT a promotion for OIC. I also have seen and continue to see some other great ladies that are not OIC members, choosing carefully and taking into account the input from other forum members. I'd sure hate to be left rummaging through the majority of those who present themselves on LL , many of whom have given rise to scams, lousy and even dangerous experiences. I believe one must consider the price one might be willing to pay for the confidence of knowing one is very likely headed to an enjoyable encounter and not venturing unarmed into a jungle.
- great ease and pleasantness of communication
- reference from another OIC provider brought prompt acceptance
- excellent timeliness of appointment
- upscale incalls with nice mood (music, candles)
- personable, courteous, affectionate provider
- excellent appearance and hygiene
- no interruptions during appointment (phones, text)
- performance as agreed (of course this varies by lady and whether MA or SP)
I only encountered one who failed to even respond to several requests to meet (despite my very gentlemanly approach). I since discovered via terb that she similarly hadn't responded to another potential client's request. She left OIC in relatively short order. Range of services and pricing varies and tends to be a bit higher than from some non-OIC members....you make your choices. This is NOT a promotion for OIC. I also have seen and continue to see some other great ladies that are not OIC members, choosing carefully and taking into account the input from other forum members. I'd sure hate to be left rummaging through the majority of those who present themselves on LL , many of whom have given rise to scams, lousy and even dangerous experiences. I believe one must consider the price one might be willing to pay for the confidence of knowing one is very likely headed to an enjoyable encounter and not venturing unarmed into a jungle.
Hot women drinking scotch, that's why I'm in this for the long haul. Thank you Cassie, so much respect for you and what you posted here.
That's right Neo, and after we build the DATObase, we will present you with a choice...You take the blue pill—the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill—you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
First of all, no bad dates. I have treated the women very well. Anything you heard is a lie. I've gone out of my way to make women happy. Again, you're too scared to defy the OIC out of fear of being ostracized so you attack me.
Second, it is "generosity". That's the word used by your people.
Again, I never stiffed on an appointment, made the ladies happy, didn't ask for something they didn't want, gave them gifts, provided the transportation and showed care and empathy to them. That's obviously not good enough for you, Kingsley?
You don't know me, Kingsley. Stop making assumptions about my character based on false accusations from people who have an axe to grind.
All Ruby does is promote the OIC. They can do no wrong.
I hear a spoonful of sugar helps the red pill go down. But I warn you, my rabbit hole is a deep and mysterious place.Fucking based! God damn... did I finally find a beautiful AND red-pilled woman, in a blue-pilled clown world filled with black pills?
That’s hot as fuck... seriously considering making contact, TheREDmilf...
No one is infallible. Lets not forget that about a year and a half ago Daisy May, away on maternity leave so not currently on OIC's roster, Twitted a client's real name and number after he no-showed on her twice in a row. I don't condone no-shows and fake bookings, these are a cancer, but with our current legislature and putting someone's personal life at risk by outing him for no-showing is tasteless, a break in confidentiality and unforgivable. From the moment this happened I told myself I would never give out my real name to anyone in this industry. It's just not worth taking the risk to partake in this illegal industry.
What a steaming pile of bullcrap. From everything I know of Cassie she's the opposite of afraid & total badass. You also know zip about me to call me some kind of lackey, lol. I can't think of one person on the OIC who would agree with that.
Listen, it's hard but you have to take the red pill. You are living in a reality distortion field of your own making. You are harasssing providers in private and public messages. Many tried to connect but you crossed boundaries and can't take no for an answer. The OIC is not to blame, Kat & Fiora are not to blame. I am not to blame. Ottawa is not to blame. It's obvious you're suffering & I truly hope you can find the comfort you need. But you're going to have to put on your big boy pants & accept responsibility for you.
With sincerity, hugs & good luck.
Ruby
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Op..suck it up buttercup, you have obviously burned bridges and need to move on. You want to know who is to blame? Just look in the mirror.
I think you're assuming I'm part of the OIC... I'm not. So I'm not worried about being ostracized by anyone. Clients or other SWs.
You're right, I don't know you personally. But I do know based on a tirade of rants posted by you on your own Twitter account about a situation between yourself and a SW you used to see (who I also should mention isn't part of the OIC either). That situation turned downright nasty and full of personal attacks. And I heard both her side personally as well as read yours. If you want to chalk it up to a he-said she-said situation, fine... But you can't honestly say you just have a problem with OIC ladies, because that's false.
So in my mind the common factor in this situation is you and something to do with your behavior... not the OIC.
Clearly you have an axe to grind as well if you're only making a review about your experience with Katrina after this long ?
I must have missed the Mary Poppins / Matrix mashup movie... I'll catch it on VHS someday hopefully.
I feel not much in terms of helpful dialogue will be added here anymore, or was ever helpful here. Frustrations are just leading to added unhelpful annomosity and personal jabs at each other, myself included for sure.
Blackfield -
I don't think you need to add much further here, your frustrations in finding someone are understood.
Maybe you could start a thread in the 411 asking for assistance from everyone in finding a new partner who can accommodate your disability, specific to your situation.
Move on from your past issues with OIC and drop all anger and look forward to something new and exciting and try to not use negative experiences to get back at them.
Sharing your negative experiences will always upset some who don't agree with you on both sides, and should only be used to assist other people, rather than just for revenge. This thread didn't go well for that reason I think.
That's probably a more constructive use of your efforts and will yield more support from both sides.
Try to stay away from being negative or frustrated when looking for help from others, it rarely works out if based on a negative topic to start.
"You will catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar." (Or something like that).
To each their own and all are standing by their own beliefs, and as they should in an open forum.
Good day…didn’t have a chance to chime in as I was booked back to back with overnights on my Toronto tour…which has been absolutely amazing !
Firstly I want to start off with who complains about a sloppy bj? I mean a dry sandpaper one isn’t the greatest, am I right boys? I love giving oral and hope that it’s the best blowjob a man ever receives, the more wetness the better…
I am high maintenance, as I put 110% into each and every experience I provide to the client. Not just appearance, but making sure the client is taking care of, he/she is happy during our time together. I also go out of my way to do things just as outfit requests, including wigs. They are very tedious to put on and keep on during play. And this is extra time that I am not charging for. Sometimes a wig can take 30 minutes to get on and stay on properly after adjusting my own hair under a cap and pinning it all down.
As part of any intimacy I request that my date showers upon arrival. Hygiene is extremely important to me. I do the same and thoroughly wash myself to feel clean and sexy. I expect my date to do the same. It’s very frustrating and a bit of a turn off when I have to repeat myself. So I offer to shower together or a fun soapy sponge bath.
I put a lot into the session everything from makeup, my hair, my outfits, waxing, shaving, making sure the space is tidy, music, candles etc. And I find my self critiqued for eating zucchini? You know I love a nice juicy big zucchini in my mouth and on my pizza
Shoutout to seasons pizza!
The time and date this client wanted my usual west end space wasn’t available. I’m lucky that I do have access to a few different incalls around the city as I .don’t work from home. This location owned by another SP I put a ton of work into to jazz it up – my artwork, décor, pillows, candles, lighting. The SP also put lots of work into it as well. One of my last reviews took place in the same space and the client was thoroughly happy with the company. This incall didn’t have a living room. Sitting on couches doesn’t last very long…a nice queen sized bed is much better for play & talks and cuddles.
Oic is a wonderful collective to bring indy workers together sharing incall resources, keeping each other safe and comfortable. I am very grateful to be part of this group. Some really amazing, strong, beautiful individuals. Setting our boundaries is not being “full of ourselves” We also benefit clients as many of us are reputable, websites & social media platforms.
The kind of clients I enjoy being with are those regardless of body type, appearance, race, age are those who respect my time, my request for hygiene and my personal boundaries. These are the men and ladies that make being a provider a wonderful experience for me.
I had actually blacklisted this client and no longer see him due to many boundary crossings both physically and emotionally and harassment to my fellow indy collogues. I had repeatedly told him my comfort levels regarding PDA during socials & physical comforts. He contacted me a month ago and I told him it I would no longer see him. As an empath I enjoy providing a service of affection and care, especially to those suffering from mental health issues. Sometimes the client will cross these lines. I have to protect myself so I can continue providing excellent services to clients and sometimes that results in me ending services to a client.
Also regarding “generosity” you mean paying for our time and services? Generosity would be something like a tip, or a gift etc. The client did here and there bring me some gifts that I still cherish. One of them being a video game console as we both very much enjoyed video games as a hobby.
But it’s very degrading being told we have to bend over backwards or we will be homeless. Also for clients who on ODSP income only I provide a very generous discount. And I had everytime with this client. I would not be homeless – I have 2 other jobs. Many of us do. The desire for serviced time, affection and touch will never stop. I am not worried. Telling us otherwise is extremely manipulative.
As a final note for the client, it’s unfortunate that things had to end. I put much care into our client provider relationship over the last year – it was pretty upsetting to see hateful comments made about me to other SPs. And on top a review that was more intentionally degrading to put me & other providers down. I was happy to console you and be there for you & make you happy during our times together. I wish you all the best
-Katrinna
Firstly I want to start off with who complains about a sloppy bj? I mean a dry sandpaper one isn’t the greatest, am I right boys? I love giving oral and hope that it’s the best blowjob a man ever receives, the more wetness the better…
I am high maintenance, as I put 110% into each and every experience I provide to the client. Not just appearance, but making sure the client is taking care of, he/she is happy during our time together. I also go out of my way to do things just as outfit requests, including wigs. They are very tedious to put on and keep on during play. And this is extra time that I am not charging for. Sometimes a wig can take 30 minutes to get on and stay on properly after adjusting my own hair under a cap and pinning it all down.
As part of any intimacy I request that my date showers upon arrival. Hygiene is extremely important to me. I do the same and thoroughly wash myself to feel clean and sexy. I expect my date to do the same. It’s very frustrating and a bit of a turn off when I have to repeat myself. So I offer to shower together or a fun soapy sponge bath.
I put a lot into the session everything from makeup, my hair, my outfits, waxing, shaving, making sure the space is tidy, music, candles etc. And I find my self critiqued for eating zucchini? You know I love a nice juicy big zucchini in my mouth and on my pizza
Shoutout to seasons pizza!The time and date this client wanted my usual west end space wasn’t available. I’m lucky that I do have access to a few different incalls around the city as I .don’t work from home. This location owned by another SP I put a ton of work into to jazz it up – my artwork, décor, pillows, candles, lighting. The SP also put lots of work into it as well. One of my last reviews took place in the same space and the client was thoroughly happy with the company. This incall didn’t have a living room. Sitting on couches doesn’t last very long…a nice queen sized bed is much better for play & talks and cuddles.
Oic is a wonderful collective to bring indy workers together sharing incall resources, keeping each other safe and comfortable. I am very grateful to be part of this group. Some really amazing, strong, beautiful individuals. Setting our boundaries is not being “full of ourselves” We also benefit clients as many of us are reputable, websites & social media platforms.
The kind of clients I enjoy being with are those regardless of body type, appearance, race, age are those who respect my time, my request for hygiene and my personal boundaries. These are the men and ladies that make being a provider a wonderful experience for me.
I had actually blacklisted this client and no longer see him due to many boundary crossings both physically and emotionally and harassment to my fellow indy collogues. I had repeatedly told him my comfort levels regarding PDA during socials & physical comforts. He contacted me a month ago and I told him it I would no longer see him. As an empath I enjoy providing a service of affection and care, especially to those suffering from mental health issues. Sometimes the client will cross these lines. I have to protect myself so I can continue providing excellent services to clients and sometimes that results in me ending services to a client.
Also regarding “generosity” you mean paying for our time and services? Generosity would be something like a tip, or a gift etc. The client did here and there bring me some gifts that I still cherish. One of them being a video game console as we both very much enjoyed video games as a hobby.
But it’s very degrading being told we have to bend over backwards or we will be homeless. Also for clients who on ODSP income only I provide a very generous discount. And I had everytime with this client. I would not be homeless – I have 2 other jobs. Many of us do. The desire for serviced time, affection and touch will never stop. I am not worried. Telling us otherwise is extremely manipulative.
As a final note for the client, it’s unfortunate that things had to end. I put much care into our client provider relationship over the last year – it was pretty upsetting to see hateful comments made about me to other SPs. And on top a review that was more intentionally degrading to put me & other providers down. I was happy to console you and be there for you & make you happy during our times together. I wish you all the best
-Katrinna
Natural ladies are very popular in the industry. Fully grown out armpits, bush, etc can be a huge turn on for some men/women clients
I have actually been asked myself to grow natural but I personally prefer shaving. Flora is a lovely individual
I have actually been asked myself to grow natural but I personally prefer shaving. Flora is a lovely individual
I just want to clarify that many OIC members, if not most, also see clients with disabilities. Kat even offers a significant discount to those on ODSP. I myself have had many with mental health & other physical challenges. Clients who do not respect boundaries and harass providers will generally find they are not welcomed back and I don't think the SPs at Alegra would appreciate these bad dates being sent to them. Unfortunately this gentleman continues to harass despite your advice & despite all this dirty laundry being unnecessarily aired on TERB, that should tell you something.
Our resident and self appointed judge, jury, and executioner for someone she's not met or spoken to personally. He did nothing to you at all, you are the Wolfpack.
Now you feel he shouldn't get to see anyone again. You don't have this power or right to judge him or anyone here.
How about you let him learn from this and move forward elsewhere? You're just seeming selfish and petty. That seemed very much like an absolute and unfair judgement based on what you've only heard or read secretly on SLACK.
He made some mistakes, agreed. You've been heard and mostly understood here in your opinion.
I'm amazed somewhat though, how many feel the need to continuously mock and further expose someone with a stated mental disability and going through a insurmountable crisis in his view. Why people? You feel good now?
Katrinna was eloquent, honest, and empathetic as she knows him and obviously takes no joy in stopping their arrangement this way, but she had to, so she should, 100%. She is completely entitled and supported by all to choose who she no longer feels she can see. She seems genuinely unhappy that it has come to an end in this unpleasant way. Bravo and well done Kat.
Imagine if a client did this in reverse on terb like you are RedMilf / Ruby? Kicking a struggling OIC SP in crisis while she's down and repeatedly without any sign of empathy or remorse? The OIC Wolfpack would be furious as well as Terb members would condemn it with you.
I can't believe you are choosing to continue your useless attack here. Please stop this as the results could be devastating for someone potentially not operating at your age (or grade) level. It's disgusting and seems intentionally mean spirited after so many.
You won redmilf. Yay.
Punching down on the disabled is a really bad look for anyone who does it and shouldn't be supported by anyone.
Take it out on me if you need additional attention, I don't mind.
To again advertise the OIC "benefits" using either human trafficking or the disabled as a platform isn't right and frankly repulsive. Is this what you meant in describing the OIC as a welcoming 'benevolent' community? SMH.
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