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MIT Professor: "More Likely We Are In A Simulation Than Not!"

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Authored by Mac Slavo via SHTFplan.com,

A Massachusetts Institute of Technology professor has declared that it’s more likely that we are living in a simulation than not. In a recent interview with Digital Trends, MIT researcher Rizwan Virk stated that in his own personal estimation, we’re probably living in a simulation.


Virk’s hypothesis is far from new. The topic was famously probed in the 1999 film The Matrix, and is the subject of a new book by Virk. As a computer scientist and video game developer who leads Play Labs at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Virk endeavors to unpack the heady arguments that call our physical world into question in his book, The Simulation Hypothesis.

Although this idea seems unlikely to the average person, it has been entertained by the likes of technology gurus such as Elon Musk. During his infamous podcast with Joe Rogan, Musk declared that we are “probably living in a simulation.” Which means he believes we are all programmed to live in what is, essentially, a video game.

Musk claimed that we have a one in a billions chance of living in “base reality.” Virk puts our chances at a little lower than Musk though.

“I would say it’s somewhere between 50 and 100 percent. I think it’s more likely that we’re in simulation than not,” Virk told Digital Trends.

When Digital Trends asked Virk how he came to the conclusion that we were all likely stuck in some sort of mental trap simulation, he replied:


I had an experience playing virtual reality ping pong and the responsiveness was very real to the point where I forgot that I was in a room with VR glasses on. When the game ended, I put the paddle on the table but, of course, there was no paddle and there was no table, so the controller fell to the floor. I even leaned over onto table and almost fell over. That experience really got me thinking about how video game technology is evolving and how it could end up being so fully immersive that we would be unable to distinguish it from reality. -Rizwan Virk via Digital Trends

Scientists are actually starting to take this idea seriously. One of those, is Oxford professor Nick Bostrom, who wrote an article in 2003 called “Are You Living in a Simulation?” He came up with a mathematically sound statistical argument for the simulation hypothesis. He says, suppose some civilization somewhere gets to the simulation point and can create highly realistic “ancestor simulations.” With more computing power, they can spin off new servers and new civilizations really quickly.

It is an interesting mind path to entertain this idea. Of course, the real question then becomes “what IF” we are in a simulation? Can we break free as they do in The Matrix, or are we doomed to wander aimlessly never really living or experiencing anything?
 

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50 to 100%, those are numbers he is pulling out of his ass.

But hey, saying weird shit is a good way to get your name out there.
 

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there are at least 8 viable, testable quantum theories of reality, and none of them have been "discredited" but have their advocates:

Quantum Reality #1 - The Copenhagen Interpretation (There is no deep reality) Niels Bohr, Heisenberg.

Quantum Reality #2 - The Copenhagen School, Part II (Reality is created by observation)

Quantum Reality #3 - Reality is an undivided whole - Walter Heitler and David Bohm

Quantum Reality #4 - The many-worlds interpretation, parallel universes, etc. Paul Davies and Hugh Everett

Quantum Reality #5 - Quantum logic - the world obeys a non-human kind of reasoning. David Finkelstein, Lobachevkski, Gauss, Riemann, leading to Einstein.

Quantum Reality #6 - Neorealism - the world is made of ordinary objects. Einstein and Louis de Broglie

Quantum Reality #7 - Consciousness creates reality. von Neumann, Eugene Wigner

Quantum Reality #8 - The duplex world of Werner Heisenberg - the world is twofold, consisting of potentials and actualities.
 

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Where's the simulation with a bevy of nubiles?
 

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It doesn’t matter it we are in one or not. Nothing will change if we uncover definitive proof that we are in one. Our lives will still continue and function the same. The only people at risk are the ones brainwashed by religion and who can’t handle the truth because they were forced to believe in fiction.

I really don’t care if when we die our computer and/or we just cease to exist or if our consciousness or spirits or energy lives forever and we keep transforming through energy or if we all all part of the ONE and connected.

To be immune and mentally and spiritually prepared for these types of truths I believe a person needs universal principles that would emerge in any place were intelligent life can form. These do exist and can be integrated provide people work together and are interested in this common objective.

After watching and reading countless days worth of information on this subject over the past 10 years I personally believe that this is highly possibility. I finally feel comfortable with the personal answers I have uncovered deeply searching down this rabbit hole and I have no more desire to keep going because it all keeps coming back and pointing in the same direction. i.e. meaning of life if just to love and be loved without conditions...the closer you achieve this the closer get to your core and truth.
 

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It doesnÂ’t matter it we are in one or not. Nothing will change if we uncover definitive proof that we are in one. Our lives will still continue and function the same. The only people at risk are the ones brainwashed by religion and who canÂ’t handle the truth because they were forced to believe in fiction.

I really donÂ’t care if when we die our computer and/or we just cease to exist or if our consciousness or spirits or energy lives forever and we keep transforming through energy or if we all all part of the ONE and connected.

To be immune and mentally and spiritually prepared for these types of truths I believe a person needs universal principles that would emerge in any place were intelligent life can form. These do exist and can be integrated provide people work together and are interested in this common objective.

After watching and reading countless days worth of information on this subject over the past 10 years I personally believe that this is highly possibility. I finally feel comfortable with the personal answers I have uncovered deeply searching down this rabbit hole and I have no more desire to keep going because it all keeps coming back and pointing in the same direction. i.e. meaning of life if just to love and be loved without conditions...the closer you achieve this the closer get to your core and truth.
The danish philosopher Peter Zinkernagel addresses a very similar or maybe even identical problem in his 1957 Doctoral Thesis: "Omverdensproblemet" '"The Outer World Problem" , i.e. how do we know that the world really exists as anything else than an dream illusion?

He comes to the same conclusion as you, namely that it does not matter. If there is no outer world, we cannot talk about it.
 

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He wins abstract thought of the day.
 

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The simulation theory has the same problem as the drake equation; in a seemingly infinite universe it is inescapable that the universe is filled with intelligent life yet we have searched the heavens and seen no indicator of intelligent life.

The argument that we live in a simulation is a seemingly sound one based on reasoning and logic, but we have no evidence of such.

We are right at the observable limit, all the easy observations that can be made have already been made, what is left is the hard observations which require exponentially more resources to make.
 

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This is an intellectual circle jerk that doesn't resolve the creation/evolution argument which is what I suspect this is really about.

Even if we are in a simulation, where did the simulators come from?
 

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This is an intellectual circle jerk that doesn't resolve the creation/evolution argument which is what I suspect this is really about.

Even if we are in a simulation, where did the simulators come from?
There are concepts that we just can not comprehend due to our human limitations like infinity, nothingness, always, etc...

We can not comprehend that this information just always existed which makes part of our perceived reality. What if there is no higher intelligent beings like how we perceive ourselves to be but a lot smarter, what if this simulation just always exists. What if there is no beginningand no end.



 

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I think these guys provide interesting perspectives even though these two videos are oversimplification in layman they still provide good information to consider.
 

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My theory is that there is an omnipotent God that have created an infinite number of Universes/simulations.
 

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Agnosticism is the logical choice imo.

I can't get with creationism or the alternative, that the universe was created from nothing and humans evolved from primordial ooze.

I watched a video where Lawrence Krauss tried to explain how something can be created from nothing, my brain started hurting and I had to tune out.
 

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Agnosticism is the logical choice imo.

I can't get with creationism or the alternative, that the universe was created from nothing and humans evolved from primordial ooze.

I watched a video where Lawrence Krauss tried to explain how something can be created from nothing, my brain started hurting and I had to tune out.
But Krauss is correct though, something can come from nothing so long as that something is balanced by a negative something. You can have a net worth of $0 but your bank account can be positive $1 million and your debts are $1 million. If you just look at the bank account then it seems that there is such a thing as free money.

In the case of matter, that negative something is gravity. Eventually gravity might win and turn all our something back into nothing via a big crunch. If you are an observer outside the universe, you would see nothing for an eternity, then a big bang, the universe existing for 100 billion years, then a big crunch, then an eternity of nothing again.
 

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But Krauss is correct though, something can come from nothing so long as that something is balanced by a negative something. You can have a net worth of $0 but your bank account can be positive $1 million and your debts are $1 million. If you just look at the bank account then it seems that there is such a thing as free money.

In the case of matter, that negative something is gravity. Eventually gravity might win and turn all our something back into nothing via a big crunch. If you are an observer outside the universe, you would see nothing for an eternity, then a big bang, the universe existing for 100 billion years, then a big crunch, then an eternity of nothing again.
Your analogy does not work for me. Money is not matter.
I do not think there are equal amounts of matter and anti-matger in the universe, anyhow.
The timeline you describe is fascinating: first an eternity, then a big bang creating a universe and then a contraction followed by another eternity, supposedly repeated ad infinitum.

What sets off a big bang?
 
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