Why would Israel NOT keep people apart who want to kill them, Frankie??
I want you to think hard and answer that for me
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I want you to think hard and answer that for me
That's an Islamaphobic statement, Phil.
Because they can obviously live in peace if you give them equal or even equalish rights, as Israeli Arabs do inside Israel.
No it isnt, its a fact of life
Thats because there's no Hamas amongst the Arabs living inside Israel.
If Israelis tear down their walls, fences....etc it would be just a matter of time before Hamas started either a civil war or a terrorist bombing campaign (or both).
Israel simply cannot take that risk, so they are forced to have walls/fences to keep them apart.
Also, the fact Israel lets Arabs live amongst them proves they are not Islamophobes or racists, if anything it proves the opposite.
Now lets reverse this and have a few thousand Jews emigrate to Gaza. How long do you think it would take before they were all slaughtered??
And as a reminder, this isn't 'inside Israel', is it?
This is in Palestine, where Hamas and all Palestinians are living under a 50 year old military occupation with apartheid rule.
So how come you support the apartheid military occupation of Palestine?
Why do you not have a problem with actions like these and still accuse the Palestinians of being the problem?
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Why do you still claim that Palestinians are the violent ones when Israelis shoot women and children protesting for basic human rights with exploding bullets?
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Seems to me that hatred like yours is the problem, not Palestinians.
I'm talking about what you referred to as 'outside Israel'.
According to the UN and international law, that's Palestine under Israeli military occupation and apartheid rule.
Is that 'outside Israel' as you stated above?
Huh?? You're totally not making sense now.
Please point which part of this map you consider to be Palestine.
1946, 1947, 1967 or 2016??
Mandatory Palestine[a][1] (Arabic: فلسطين Filasṭīn; Hebrew: פָּלֶשְׂתִּינָה (א"י) Pālēśtīnā (EY), where "EY" indicates "Eretz Yisrael", Land of Israel) was a geopolitical entity established between 1920 and 1923 in the region of Palestine as part of the Partition of the Ottoman Empire under the terms of the British Mandate for Palestine.
During the First World War (1914–18), an Arab uprising and the British Empire's Egyptian Expeditionary Force under General Edmund Allenby drove the Turks out of the Levant during the Sinai and Palestine Campaign.[2] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence if they revolted against the Ottomans, but the two sides had different interpretations of this agreement, and in the end, the UK and France divided up the area under the Sykes–Picot Agreement—an act of betrayal in the eyes of the Arabs. Further complicating the issue was the Balfour Declaration of 1917, promising British support for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine. At the war's end the British and French set up a joint "Occupied Enemy Territory Administration" in what had been Ottoman Syria. The British achieved legitimacy for their continued control by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."[3] The civil Mandate administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine, which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948. The land east of the Jordan, a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, gained independence in 1946.[4]
During the British Mandate period the area experienced the ascent of two major nationalist movements, one among the Jews and the other among the Arabs. The competing national interests of the Arab and Jewish populations of Palestine against each other and against the governing British authorities matured into the Arab Revolt of 1936–1939 and the Jewish insurgency in Palestine before culminating in the Civil War of 1947–1948. The aftermath of the Civil War and the consequent 1948 Arab–Israeli War led to the establishment of the 1949 cease-fire agreement, with partition of the former Mandatory Palestine between the newborn state of Israel with a Jewish majority, the Arab West Bank annexed by the Jordanian Kingdom and the Arab All-Palestine Government in the Gaza Strip under the protectorate of Egypt.
During the First World War (1914–18), an Arab uprising and the British Empire's Egyptian Expeditionary Force under General Edmund Allenby drove the Turks out of the Levant during the Sinai and Palestine Campaign.[2] The United Kingdom had agreed in the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence that it would honour Arab independence if they revolted against the Ottomans, but the two sides had different interpretations of this agreement, and in the end, the UK and France divided up the area under the Sykes–Picot Agreement—an act of betrayal in the eyes of the Arabs. Further complicating the issue was the Balfour Declaration of 1917, promising British support for a Jewish "national home" in Palestine. At the war's end the British and French set up a joint "Occupied Enemy Territory Administration" in what had been Ottoman Syria. The British achieved legitimacy for their continued control by obtaining a mandate from the League of Nations in June 1922. The formal objective of the League of Nations mandate system was to administer parts of the defunct Ottoman Empire, which had been in control of the Middle East since the 16th century, "until such time as they are able to stand alone."[3] The civil Mandate administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine, which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948. The land east of the Jordan, a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, gained independence in 1946.[4]
During the British Mandate period the area experienced the ascent of two major nationalist movements, one among the Jews and the other among the Arabs. The competing national interests of the Arab and Jewish populations of Palestine against each other and against the governing British authorities matured into the Arab Revolt of 1936–1939 and the Jewish insurgency in Palestine before culminating in the Civil War of 1947–1948. The aftermath of the Civil War and the consequent 1948 Arab–Israeli War led to the establishment of the 1949 cease-fire agreement, with partition of the former Mandatory Palestine between the newborn state of Israel with a Jewish majority, the Arab West Bank annexed by the Jordanian Kingdom and the Arab All-Palestine Government in the Gaza Strip under the protectorate of Egypt.
Good question, Phil.Huh?? You're totally not making sense now.
Please point which part of this map you consider to be Palestine.
1946, 1947, 1967 or 2016??
The only legal recognition from the UN has been for the partition borders.
Taking land by war is of course a war crime, right?
I don't have an answer but hope the ICC will look into and decide.
Which borders do you think show both Israel and Palestine's actual borders?
What I think doesnt really matter, its what the Israeli's think is what matters.
According to a large percent of the Jewish population map 2014 is what belongs to Israel.
They feel Jews were originally displaced and expelled from their holy land during the Diaspora: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_diaspora
So they believe the Palestinians took their land centuries ago, and they are now just getting it back.
The Palestinians feel its their homeland and that they are now being expelled. This is why a 2-State solution will be very difficult to achieve. Especially when Israel cant really trust Hamas and Palestinians (or Arabs in general). See the six-day war.
Add to that a clash of 2 religions (Islam vs Judaism) and I think peace in that part of the middle-East is highly unlikely anytime soon
It's extremely disheartening that this thread has gone on for 8 pages. I posted it with the belief that the woman's sickening tweets would be condemned by all and leave it at that. But there really are anti-Semitic people on this board that want to excuse ethnic based hatreds.
That would be a war crime.
And that would leave them ruling 2 million Palestinians in what you admit is apartheid.
It would also mean 2 million people living under foreign military rule.
And why would Palestinian's trust Israelis?
According to you, they keep taking their land.
So how does peace happen, according to your views?
What would you do if you were Palestinian?
Because he has no argument to support his racism so instead is going with conspiracy theories.
Yeah, good luck with that
I think I told you this before, but Israel offered Arafat something like 80 to 90 percent of the West Bank.
Arafat refused. Even Clinton called him out for it, saying he missed a glorious chance at peace.
Read some of that here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Camp_David_Summit
Here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/03/israel2
And here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/may/23/israel3
So Israel finally said OK, you dont want peace and yet you keep firing rockets at us and sending suicide bombers into Israel, so we're gonna construct a wall and some fencing to keep you apart because were entitled to defend ourselves. And thats exactly what they did.
You just dont like it Frankie, because the Jews are winning this war and Hamas cant get at them
Stop shooting those stupid rockets into Israel, and making an honest effort to come to the peace table
Yet you keep making excuses for their leaders choosing violence and rejecting peace.
Oh and that whole bit about Palestinians overwhelmingly rejecting the idea of equal rights in a One State solution.
Yet the Palestinian and Arab leadership rejected that deal so it never was implemented. To bad for the Palestinian people.
p.s. You do realize that deal described Israel as a JEWISH STATE right?
Justice is slow, but it moves forward.
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Nice story, bro.
Too bad we all know that the Zionist movement's original goals were to take all of historic Palestine.
Just as it continues today with Israeli politicians.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-we...t-to-settle-every-part-of-the-land-of-israel/
You do not support peace.
What a thoughtful response to the fact that the Palestinians and Arab leadership rejected the UN Partition and the fact that the majority of Palestinian parties still reject the concept. It's amazing that you claim other people are against peace when you have never even hinted displeasure with the terrorist entity that is overtly against the concept and instead promotes ethnic cleansing.
And I love that you are pushing the UN resolution while at the same time arguing against it's definition of Israel as "the Jewish State".
Palestinians didn't get a chance to reject Partition, as they were already under attack from Zionist terrorists.
Just as they are still under military occupation and living under apartheid rule under a government that still wants to take all of their land and drive them into the sea.
