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Trump signed law that Ramps Up War on Sex Workers and Their Customers on 12/21/2018 after secret vote in Congress.

New Law: National Strategy for arresting sex buyers and use of secret wire taps in misdemeanor prostitution cases.

The national plan to "end demand" for prostitution was part of the massive "Frederick Douglass Trafficking Victims Prevention and Protection Reauthorization Act," which cleared the Senate through a secret vote of the sort civil libertarians have long opposed.

Congress is now "strengthening federal efforts" to be tough on sex buyers, based on the false idea that customers of consenting adult sex workers drive demand for minors. All state and local cops, prosecutors, and judges are to be trained on "best practices for prosecuting buyers" of sex and how to use asset forfeiture in these cases. A federal working group on the study of sex-buyer arrests will also be created, and grants related to human trafficking must include language encouraging those working on demand-reduction efforts to apply.

In addition, Congress "clarif[ies] that commercial sexual exploitation is a form of gender-based violence," whatever that means.

"Any comprehensive approach to eliminating sex and labor trafficking must include a demand reduction component," states the bill.

The House also passed the bill via "voice vote," a process under which there's neither a record of how members voted, whether they were present for a vote, nor how many total members actually voted. Voice votes—also known as unanimous consent agreements.

Big Changes, Fine Print
Tucked in some tiny sections are significant changes, some that go way beyond human trafficking. For instance, a section of S. 1311 would allow state law enforcement to use secret wiretaps on sex workers and their customers.

A part of S.1312 "amends the federal criminal code to broaden the authority of the U.S. Secret Service to provide forensic and investigative assistance to state and local law enforcement agencies by allowing assistance in support of any investigation—not just an investigation involving missing or exploited children."

Another "amends the federal criminal code to authorize the Department of Justice (DOJ) to bring a civil action to stop or prevent criminal offenses related to suspected forced labor, sex trafficking, or sexual abuse." This would give the DOJ more leeway to preemptively shut down businesses while building a criminal case.

And they set aside more money for Customs and Border Protection "to expand outreach and live on-site anti-trafficking training for airport and airline personnel"—efforts that have thus far yielded a host of high-profile stories about profiling interracial families and not a single confirmed story involving actual sex traffickers.

Small Glimmers of Sanity
On average, however, there's actually less sex-trafficking panic in these bills than similar measures we've been seeing this century, with way fewer references to inflated and debunked statistics. The End Demand element notwithstanding, there's also less conflation of sex work that adults freely engage in and forced prostitution of adults or minors.

Congress instructs the Justice Department to develop better training with regard to "limiting arrests or prosecutions of trafficking victims for crimes they commit as a direct result" of being victimized, and to award grants to groups that prioritize this approach.

Senators also rejected the part of a House-approved measure that required traveling federal employees to stay at hotels "with certain policies relating to child sexual exploitation."

In addition, a host of transparency-related provisions are potentially good.

For nearly two decades, the feds have been leading and supporting anti-human-trafficking efforts with little accounting for the money and time spent or the results. Now, Congress is instructing DOJ to report on the methodology it uses "to assess the prevalence of human trafficking." In addition, federal crime reports are instructed to start measuring instances of child-labor violations, assisting or promoting prostitution arrests, and solicitation for commercial sex arrests.

Congress tells the FBI to "publish a status report on the Innocence Lost National Initiative," a nationwide effort, coordinated with local police, that has operated largely in secret for more than a decade. It's the initiative behind the FBI's annual Operation Cross Country.

(Dave notes that Operation Cross Country's periodic sweeps have resulted in a huge number of arrests - the vast majority of which are private consenting adults using websites etc with very few "real" victims "saved" - but that is the hype.)

And it asks for more accountability from Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) about trafficking-related investigations. HSI is involved in all sorts of prostitution stings around America, especially ones involving Asian massage parlors.

For at least a decade, lawmakers have made a big deal about introducing, supporting, and passing bills related to sex trafficking. Interestingly, there was little fanfare from folks in Congress about the passage of these measures. It seems that when these efforts aren't full of sex panic and high-profile targets like Backpage, there's little glory in claiming credit for them.

More at https://reason.com/blog/2018/12/21/congress-ramps-up-war-on-sex-workers
 

Ceiling Cat

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Quick, build a wall at the Canadian/US border. Soon there will be hoards of horny 'Mericans marching towards us looking for hump and weed.
 

wigglee

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Now your just hurting the brains of all the Trump lovin' terbites with all this anti sex hypocrasy emanating from the supreme pussy grabber! Have fun putting lipstick on this pig, fellas.
 

Insidious Von

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Don't know if Melania was an escort but she is a masochist.

When things go pear shaped, governments look for easy targets. It's the Democrats fault.
 

wanttodo

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Quick, build a wall at the Canadian/US border. Soon there will be hoards of horny 'Mericans marching towards us looking for hump and weed.
If Americans coming across the border to smoke week or bust nuts are questioned about this at the border crossing they are risking alot if caught lying. Weed and paying for pussy are federal crimes in USA. Maybe Trudeau ain't so bad?
 

kbiii2

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Actually paying for sex is an individual state decision. Prostitution is legal in all counties but two in Nevada. The feds are just possibly helping out states where it is illegal. Plus high class independent urban escorts are seldom bothered. Some Canadian escorts even tour the US. High class escorts also do heavy screening. Hey the corporate and political bigwigs have always had those girls available. An American engaging a Canadian escort would not actually be violating federal law as long as she was over 18. I believe there is a federal law pertaining to underage foreign prostitutes. I seem to recall some guys being arrested for hiring underage girls in Thailand.
 

Grimnul

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For everyone saying Trump is a hypocrite: he never pays women for sex. He pays them to not talk about it afterwards. Totally different!

Also, the idea of ending the demand for sex work is ridiculous. As long as people want to have sex, there will be people willing to pay for it. You could make prostitution punishable by death and people would still do it. I really don’t understand how people don’t get this. Sure, go after the pimps, and the traffickers, and the guys exploiting minors. They’re monsters and should be punished accordingly. Leave the people engaging in consensual commercial sex alone. We’re not hurting anyone, and it’s a massive waste of time, money, and energy to try to stop it.
 

corrie fan

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For everyone saying Trump is a hypocrite: he never pays women for sex. He pays them to not talk about it afterwards. Totally different!

Also, the idea of ending the demand for sex work is ridiculous. As long as people want to have sex, there will be people willing to pay for it. You could make prostitution punishable by death and people would still do it. I really don’t understand how people don’t get this. Sure, go after the pimps, and the traffickers, and the guys exploiting minors. They’re monsters and should be punished accordingly. Leave the people engaging in consensual commercial sex alone. We’re not hurting anyone, and it’s a massive waste of time, money, and energy to try to stop it.
Part of the reason for campaign to end the demand for sex work is the desire of the anti sex brigade to control others. The idea is that only some of us deserve to experience sexual pleasure. Sex is held out as a reward for those who conform to what society and religion expects of them by getting married and having children. Celibacy is the punishment for those who who don't get married.
Lana Fox, who writes for Boston Magazine has quite a few articles about sex work in the U.S.
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2011/10/26/sex-money-suburban-boston-massage/
 

Grimnul

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Part of the reason for campaign to end the demand for sex work is the desire of the anti sex brigade to control others. The idea is that only some of us deserve to experience sexual pleasure. Sex is held out as a reward for those who conform to what society and religion expects of them by getting married and having children. Celibacy is the punishment for those who who don't get married.
Lana Fox, who writes for Boston Magazine has quite a few articles about sex work in the U.S.
https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2011/10/26/sex-money-suburban-boston-massage/
I mean, it really doesn’t matter what the reason for it is. The point was that it’s an impossibly futile task and wasting resources on it is foolish. Spend that money on healthcare, or education, or something. Something that will actually benefit people. As-is, they may as well just be burning that money for all the good it’ll do.
 

CaveHobbit

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""end demand" for prostitution" ??

WTH?? - There are archeologists that believe that Neanderthal man would swap sex from the females for the food they'd brought back to the tribe. That was 100,000 years ago.

If the demand for prostitution hasn't been 'ended' in 100,000 years, what are the odds that this grapefruit with a dead squirrel on his head is going to end it anytime soon?
 

rhuarc29

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You can never end the demand for sex, anymore than you can end the supply. Therefore, a rational person would not seek to end it, but instead to control it in such a way as to make it as safe as possible.
 

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Big Changes, Fine Print
Tucked in some tiny sections are significant changes, some that go way beyond human trafficking. For instance, a section of S. 1311 would allow state law enforcement to use secret wiretaps on sex workers and their customers.
Dave do you have any idea what section of the Law is being referred to? I've taken a quick read through and nothing jumps out and a google search merely references the bill in its entirety.
 

lomotil

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For everyone saying Trump is a hypocrite: he never pays women for sex. He pays them to not talk about it afterwards. Totally different!

Also, the idea of ending the demand for sex work is ridiculous. As long as people want to have sex, there will be people willing to pay for it. You could make prostitution punishable by death and people would still do it. I really don’t understand how people don’t get this. Sure, go after the pimps, and the traffickers, and the guys exploiting minors. They’re monsters and should be punished accordingly. Leave the people engaging in consensual commercial sex alone. We’re not hurting anyone, and it’s a massive waste of time, money, and energy to try to stop it.
Trump is on record for having directly paid women for sex with cash, gifts, condos, trips etc not just paying for their silence, so you are wrong there. Do you think that Stormy Daniels had sex with Trump for free.....? :crazy::crazy:There exists several degrees of prostitution and compensation for sex in this world.
 
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