Quality of SPs gone down?

[Jasmine Raine]

I can afford them, it's common sense and better choices out there that stop me from being foolish and allowing me to enjoy my disposable income on other comforts life has to offer.



My Lawyer charges me $350/hr. She has many years of University under her belt and has performed very well over the last 5 years so I happily pay the fee but If a lawyer comes along and proves to me they can do the same job for the $200 , do you not believe I'll start sending this new hungry aggressive lawyer my business, the answer is YES I would!

You complain about a fee of $300/hr as if it's not enough, let's see.

3 days a week, 3 clients a day= 9 clients at only an hour each would be $2700 cash a week. As an Indy, that's all yours minus advertising costs. Some ladies work from home other may have a incall cost, still it's decent money and I would bet most decent looking ladies charging $300 would probably see more than 9 clients a week if they chose too. I dunno about you but most people do not make this weekly salary in Canada.

Please merge back into the lane, don't come in like a freight liner, thank you!

I actually agree with that you wrote. In every other industry if a person can get the same service for a lower price, that is what most people will do. Some stay loyal for a variety of reasons but for the most part, people want to save money.

I also agree that $2700 a week is a good payday. Even with costs. Not going to lie. Now none of this factors in a ladies personal expense. Even FT non industry workers sometimes have a hard time with their income covering all their expenses. So it would be unfair to say that amount is enough for someone when we don't what their bills are. But yes, compared to others, that it is a good working wage.

You already know what I don't agree with. I don't agree what agencies are all that and indies are the horrible plague on the industry that you make them out to be.

Just like a some clients are bad, some escorts are too. We don't throw all clients under the bus. I wish you would stop doing the same to indies.

 

[bubble pop]

Younger girls migrating to Seeking Arrangement. There's more money in asia so it's less lucrative to come and work here. Yes it sucks. Some girls have abysmal service level / huge entitlement and charge $$$ for the worst experience you'll have in your life.

 

[squeezer]

I actually agree with that you wrote. In every other industry if a person can get the same service for a lower price, that is what most people will do. Some stay loyal for a variety of reasons but for the most part, people want to save money.

I also agree that $2700 a week is a good payday. Even with costs. Not going to lie. Now none of this factors in a ladies personal expense. Even FT non industry workers sometimes have a hard time with their income covering all their expenses. So it would be unfair to say that amount is enough for someone when we don't what their bills are. But yes, compared to others, that it is a good working wage.

You already know what I don't agree with. I don't agree what agencies are all that and indies are the horrible plague on the industry that you make them out to be.

Just like a some clients are bad, some escorts are too. We don't throw all clients under the bus. I wish you would stop doing the same to indies.

I don't believe all Indies are a horrible plague. I will even say some deserve the fee they charge. I believe your fee is reasonable. It really comes down to value and that is different for everyone as are looks. In my opinion many indy's over use the word "elite" and do overvalue themselves and then cry and manbash when they cannot pay their bills.

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

if you dont like it, find a cheaper hobby.....like stamp collecting or picking scabs

Or we can just continue to see the cheaper priced SPs.

 

[squeezer]

And all the girls from montreal move here because Montreal sucks for working. And if you want to do your hobbying in third world countries then be my guest lmao.

Indy girls have higher rates because we are allowed to change them. I have friend who have worked at agencies for years at $250 and theyre exhausted all the time. They have to see like ten clients a day to make money so when they finally go indy you bet theyre going to raise their rates.

if you dont like it, find a cheaper hobby.....like stamp collecting or picking scabs

You're funny. Do you really believe you are worth more than some of the amazing ladies at Mirage, Hush and HotPinkList just to name a few? I see on an average 3 ladies a week, I hardly need to pick scabs. I rather spend $750 a week on young talent than long in the tooth entitled over priced ladies that believe they somehow are "elite" because they have glamorized , filtered pics.

Taking your word for it, your friend is earning $1500 cash a day working for the agency without worrying about any overhead, incall expense or advertising. Add in the odd guy that tips she's probably taking home $1800 a day. Doesn't sound like a bad pay day either. I'd say it's better than working at Walmart or Starbucks.

 

[Kayly]

OP: The Toronto escort scene is at all an all time low and has been for about three years. There are no stars at agencies. There are only a few good looking independents and they charge about $500 per hour. The good years ended when Exquisite closed. It wasn't the greatest agency in the world but it did have some solid escorts. Prior to that, High Society Girls closed. It had some awesome escorts. Nowadays, the number of escorts is low but, more importantly, their beauty is abysmal. As soon as I see the escort, I know I would rather has stayed home and watched porn.


When I think back, agencies that were run by former escorts were the best one and there currently aren't any.

Selena a former escort runs hotpinklist

 

[explorerzip]

Or we can just continue to see the cheaper priced SPs.

Apparently, it's easier to come here to bitch sorry discuss about girls that are out of reach for some people. Instead of visiting the many agencies around that have more variety and lower rates.

 

[Scarey]

With the passing of Bill C-36 there was a portion of the women in this industry who said to themselves, no matter what type of male you are....…"now we fuck you". They are very easy to spot now.VERY

 

[oil&gas]

Or we can just continue to see the cheaper priced SPs.

Somehow some of those who don't want to
spend the kind of money charged by the pricey
SPs fail to take heed of this.

 

[squeezer]

And all the girls from montreal move here because Montreal sucks for working. And if you want to do your hobbying in third world countries then be my guest lmao.

I missed this one and let's clear this up. Agency girls in Montreal actually take home the same pay and sometimes more because agencies in Montreal take a smaller cut than Toronto agencies. They actually do very well in most cases and the selection is phenomenal.

As for third world country ladies you are looking down on, have you ever met a Colombian or gorgeous Cuban woman? Just the way they look at you, their accents, their skin tone,they are worth every penny.

 

[Robert Mugabe]

And all the girls from montreal move here because Montreal sucks for working. And if you want to do your hobbying in third world countries then be my guest lmao.

Indy girls have higher rates because we are allowed to change them. I have friend who have worked at agencies for years at $250 and theyre exhausted all the time. They have to see like ten clients a day to make money so when they finally go indy you bet theyre going to raise their rates.

if you dont like it, find a cheaper hobby.....like stamp collecting or picking scabs

You had me at "picking scabs"

 

[explorerzip]

Or bitches at someone who bitches at a lady who shits on all men. (Look at her previous threads it is disgusting).

Perish the thought of an anonymous person online shitting on you. How do you manage to be so fragile?

 

[squeezer]

Drinking a lot of alcohol helps. lol

Getting laid by a gorgeous woman helps too.

 

[squeezer]

Also thinking I have not been on this site for 15+ years as well helps.

Tell me it wasn't the picking of scabs that has kept you away?

 

[NiceToMeetYou]

I would recommend you switching from the "independent and white" girls to the Korean girls in Asian agencies such as MoonWaitingVIP, BarbieHouse69, AsianSexyBabe and perhaps other whom I currently don't have knowledge about them.

Majority of the "independent and white" girls are now charging in the neighborhood of $350 - $400 / hour and I doubt that they will be any better than the Korean girls in the Asian agencies who are charging at $260 / hour.

I have switched from partaking in the "independent and white" girls to the Korean girls in the Asian agencies for over one year now and I just love it in my very good experiences with many young and beautiful Korean girls from South Korea. I've been eating my "Kimchee" at least couple times a week for the past several months.... LOL

 

[oil&gas]

I am not surprised if lower-price non-white SPs are doing
better. Most likely they get to see a lot more half-hour
clients daily than upper scale providers.

 

[derrick76]

Sorry lads...travel the world a bit...and you'll find you are blessed by the ladies who work in Toronto. For example, had a mate spend US$750 in a brothel in Nevada for 45 mins with a lady half as attractive as those in Toronto, as well as having to negotiate every single act with her with US dollars attached to everything. Exhausting.

I cannot speak to the Montreal v Toronto controversy, but can see that as a legitimate whinge. But big picture...wow...just love the locals! And in 4 years do not notice any drop off in class or looks or effort.

You say travel the world a bit and subsequently speak of only Nevada?

In various EU cities, I'd say that the SPs beat the ones here.

Subjectivity, I guess.

 

[derrick76]

I don't understand why you think there is a dip in quality. You are talking about literal human beings. I personally find this whole thread incredibly offensive.

Also, out of all of the places I have travelled, Canada has the cheapest rates for sex workers. I know of SSBBW providers in Australia that charge $400 per hour but here you're lucky if you get like $200 per hour if you are a SSBBW. I have friends in the UK that are 1000 (pounds sterling) per hour and they are constantly booked solid....and no one complains about it.

Vio

I have never seen anyone in the UK advertised at £1,000 per hour except maybe a touring porn star like Aletta Ocean. Unless you men 1,000 CAD equivalent which is about £590. I've seen a few listings for £500. Again, mostly porn girls and glamour models, who are all the rage in the UK. However, the majority of high end ladies are £350-400

 

[derrick76]

if you want to do your hobbying in third world countries then be my guest lmao.

What does this mean exactly?

 

[kherg007]

You say travel the world a bit and subsequently speak of only Nevada?

In various EU cities, I'd say that the SPs beat the ones here.

Subjectivity, I guess.

Lol maybe cuz I don't visit many caucasian ladies. Certainly the ebony ladies in the gta the best. A lovely 300 hr lady in the GTA will be at least 400hr in Sydney or Melbourne. London about the same. Visiting ladies in SE Asia also about the same or more. I like to be able to converse and enjoy the ladies personality too, so places w non English speaking ladies also not quite on, like the legal brothels in Singapore where Chinese ladies from the mainland w time limited work permits often work but you can't really converse with them.