Pre Nup?

[doggystyle99]

I had a discussion with a friend over the weekend about pre nups and how one of our friends is screwed because he didn't get one prior to his second marriage.
Just curious to see how many of you would ask to get a prenuptial agreement signed before getting married and if yes how much assets you have would get you to ask your wife for a pre nup?

 

[spraggamuffin]

It's no mistake.

Maybe this guy believed luck was on his side in that he actually had any assets left after his first marriage, especially in Canada.

Feeling lucky he decided to roll the dice and make it a sure thing that he has no assets left the next time around.

Pre nups are easier said than done in reality.

Many talk the talk, but when the time comes cannot walk the walk.

Really depends on the maturity of both partners involved, their agendas, what they own/bring to the marriage, and whether you have the backbone/principles or not to propose it and risk the potential outcomes.

 

[doggystyle99]

It's no mistake.

Maybe this guy believed luck was on his side in that he actually had any assets left after his first marriage, especially in Canada.

Feeling lucky he decided to roll the dice and make it a sure thing that he has no assets left the next time around.

Pre nups are easier said than done in reality.

Many talk the talk, but when the time comes cannot walk the walk.

Really depends on the maturity of both partners involved, their agendas, what they own/bring to the marriage, and whether you have the backbone or not to propose it and risk the potential outcomes.

His first wife was an angel, beautiful and smart. She was successful and made good money herself mid 6 figures but nowhere near the high 7 figures he was making and the lifestyle he was providing.
His second wife complete bitch, but unbelievably gorgeous, sneaky and street smart, and she's taken him to the cleaners. She made 6 figures too.

 

[spraggamuffin]

His first wife was an angel, beautiful and smart. She was successful and made good money herself mid 6 figures but nowhere near the high 7 figures he was making and the lifestyle he was providing.
His second wife complete bitch, but unbelievably gorgeous, sneaky and street smart, and she's taken him to the cleaners.

Which is why the first wife left him something, leaving him complacent that another would have the same heart or be as well off as his first wife.
Second one was hungry and had an agenda and exploited his vulnerability and heartbrokenness from his first marriage/Divorce.
His mind was weak, and how desperate he was on the rebound, don't think he would have had the balls to propose a prenup to the second wife, and risk losing her as a crutch as well as her crotch in the process.
It's how we live and learn unfortunately, and some take several tries at the same before they learn.

 

[essguy_]

I think if you're young and it's your first go-around, you should skip the pre-nup. I'm kind of old fashioned that way and think a pre-nup is too cynical for a first marriage. I say that as a guy who just ended his first marriage last year (after two kids and many years) and paid out quite a bit.

Now if it's your second or more... well, there is no way I'm getting married again without one. After all, they say third times the charm so want to get out of my second fairly easily. Oh and for you guys who have never been married and are about to - NEVER introduce your wife as "your first wife"... LOL!

 

[xmontrealer]

Now if it's your second or more... well, there is no way I'm getting married again without one. After all, they say third times the charm so want to get out of my second fairly easily.

A third marriage is a triumph of hope over experience!

 

[kkelso]

My best friend, a lawyer, encourages clients to think about those dependent on them. If you have family who counts on you financially, parents, kids, siblings, then the greater the need - It's also an easier ask. His advice to anyone who owns a business, full or in part, is to simply say that the business charter requires it.

KK

 

[doggystyle99]

My best friend, a lawyer, encourages clients to think about those dependent on them. If you have family who counts on you financially, parents, kids, siblings, then the greater the need - It's also an easier ask. His advice to anyone who owns a business, full or in part, is to simply say that the business charter requires it.

KK

That's great advice.

 

[oil&gas]

Do people stick with the traditional wedding vows following a
pre-nup agreement? I think the "...for richer, for poorer.." part
would need to be revised in keeping with the true spirit of
the marriage

 

[bazokajoe]

I never been married and hopefully never will. I don't know much about prenups but have heard that they aren't worth the paper they are printed on.
Again this is what I have heard.
Has anyone here had 1 and a judge disregards it and says it's not valid? Does the prenup have to have conditions written into it as to who's fault the breakdown of the marriage is?

 

[superstar_88]

Even without a prenup on divorce it's the increase in net worth from the point of marriage is it not? Rather than losing half automatically. Matromonial home exception of course. Don't know about alimony.

 

[angrymime666]

prenups dont mean shit. with the right lawyer they can argue they were coerced or not in a good state of mind when signing.

I think toiiet paper is more valuable....

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

The prenup is supposed to cover assts brought into the marriage.

Even without a prenup on divorce it's the increase in net worth from the point of marriage is it not? Rather than losing half automatically. Matromonial home exception of course. Don't know about alimony.

 

[Aardvark154]

As I'm sure Oagre and other learned friends would agree. A young couple in their early 20's with no significant assets, may well feel with justification, that there is little reason for one.

On the other hand a couple perhaps only a few years older who are marrying for a second time, perhaps with children from their previous marriage, and perhaps with significant assets, absolutely should have one -- far better to have a prenuptial agreement than be concerned about the co-mingling of premarital assets and children potentially being denied an inheritance.

 

[Shooter75]

If a guy has a lot to lose then why in the fuck would he ever get married?
I think we all know that women are wonderful and magnificent creatures, The love and respect of a great women can make life worth living, and everyday a paradise. Take that same women, but now you have her hatred and contempt, oh and your also married to her. So now your getting a divorce, and this women will move heaven and earth to destroy you. She will lie, cheat, steal, fuck anything to destroy your life. Her greatest wish is to cut your cock and balls off , she used to be your wife, now she's a zombie. A women can't deal with a man who can no longer stand to be with them, they feel abandoned . The horror stories about men and divorce are out there and there all true. So if your married and not a fan of homicide or suicide, Try to keep her happy. happy wife happy life gentleman.

-Shooter75

 

[bazokajoe]

If a guy has a lot to lose then why in the fuck would he ever get married?

This is my thinking everyday

 

[Eagleeyes]

I can't stand that phrase " happy wife, happy life".
Am I supposed to suffer and be miserable just to keep her happy? Fuck that
. my happiness comes first. I think about cutting and running all the time. Just feel bad for the kid.

 

[doggystyle99]

Even without a prenup on divorce it's the increase in net worth from the point of marriage is it not? Rather than losing half automatically. Matromonial home exception of course. Don't know about alimony.

From my understanding and what I've learned from a few friends who have pre nups Boneranger's statement below is correct. Some people also add spousal support provisions to pre nups.

The prenup is supposed to cover assts brought into the marriage.

 

[Smallcock]

It's no mistake.

Maybe this guy believed luck was on his side in that he actually had any assets left after his first marriage, especially in Canada.

Feeling lucky he decided to roll the dice and make it a sure thing that he has no assets left the next time around.

Pre nups are easier said than done in reality.

Many talk the talk, but when the time comes cannot walk the walk.

Really depends on the maturity of both partners involved, their agendas, what they own/bring to the marriage, and whether you have the backbone/principles or not to propose it and risk the potential outcomes.

It's difficult because men in the modern era have been raised on romance movies that equate "love" with marriage. But marriage is first and foremost a business proposition - the union of two people who can pool their resources and be better off together than apart. Men think with their dicks and in doing so fall head over heels easily from lust. Women are much more likely to understand the 'business' nature of marriage since sex is not a top priority for them though they're used to contracting sex (or the potential for it) in exchange for goods/services/status practically all their lives.

 

[freedom3]

OP:

-Unless he is going to be a househusband, a man should always have a prenup.
-It doesn't matter how many assets you have, it matters how many assets you hope to have.
-There is never a downside to insisting on a prenup. When she refuses, write her a cheque for everything you have at that point and see how it feels.