You guys really pay that much?

Knuckle Ball

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I think plenty of girls in this industry overrate themselves and charge far too much. That said, I also think that if you get ANGRY about how much a lady charges, that's a personal issue you should probably resolve.
I don’t think any sp is over-rating herself if she is able to generate business at her chosen rate. It’s simply a matter of what the market will bear.

I think perhaps sometimes these conversations get nasty because people confuse an SP’s rate with her value or worth as a person. These are two entirely different things imho.
 

gq-guy

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The only reason I asked was because I just dont understand how I can be a regular to an agency sp for a long time paying 160hh or 250hr and all the sudden she goes indy and rates are now 400 hr ?? I understand that's her rate and her business and I am happy for them but as much as I would like to see her again. I dont think I can dish out 400 hr for someone I already been with.. and dont think the service would be any different than before. I would rather look for another regular..
 

Johnny Utah

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then do that and stop complaining. you don't have a right to access anyone's body just because you did so before at a lower price.
Ya I don’t think that’s what he was saying.

Although it wasn’t useful, he knows he needs to move on and that a woman sets her rate and people will pay it or they won’t.

It’s like once everybody sees a rate bread, they come in just to pick a fight.
 

gq-guy

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I am not complaining at all.. I just wanted to know why these prices all the sudden goes up. Didn't know this topic was so aggressive but you may all go back to your regular routine and avoid this topic
 

likwid

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Just pay for what you can afford, it’s a market like any other, you’ll have price tiers. Worth is subjective
 

squeezer

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what i don't get are the girls trying to justify their high rates by predictably bringing out the "i do a lot of administrative work!" and "sex work is hard work!" arguments.

let's be real here. sex work is not hard work, especially compared to basically ALL the other jobs that charge similar rates, and many other jobs that charge lower rates. the reason most sex workers do it is because it's NOT HARD compared to other jobs we did before or do simultaneously.

the reason sex workers can command high rates comes down to a very simple explanation: because we can. no, it's not fair, and that's too bad.
Exactly, except I will argue one of your points and say it's fair. If one can lure the trout in with the right marketing bait then let him be parted of his money.
 

explorerzip

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I am not complaining at all.. I just wanted to know why these prices all the sudden goes up. Didn't know this topic was so aggressive but you may all go back to your regular routine and avoid this topic
This industry operates out of sight out of mind, which means little to no regulation. As a result girls and agencies can charge whatever they want even if there is a limited market for it. I suppose that could change if government gets involved and I hope that never, ever happens. This really shouldn't be such a hard concept to understand if you think about it a little.
 

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I am not complaining at all.. I just wanted to know why these prices all the sudden goes up. Didn't know this topic was so aggressive but you may all go back to your regular routine and avoid this topic
I noticed the same thing - I was eyeing this agency girl and suddenly she went indy and her prices skyrocketed - so I dropped that idea pretty quickly...lots of hot service oriented females at decent rates.
 

squeezer

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I noticed the same thing - I was eyeing this agency girl and suddenly she went indy and her prices skyrocketed - so I dropped that idea pretty quickly...lots of hot service oriented females at decent rates.
Exactly, so many many young beautiful ladies at reputable agencies there is no need to go through hoops and extra $$$$$ at all.
 

Knuckle Ball

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then do that and stop complaining. you don't have a right to access anyone's body just because you did so before at a lower price.
That’s not what he said. Stop being so cranky...You’re just trying to be abrasive and start an argument.
 

Knuckle Ball

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Ya I don’t think that’s what he was saying.

Although it wasn’t useful, he knows he needs to move on and that a woman sets her rate and people will pay it or they won’t.

It’s like once everybody sees a rate bread, they come in just to pick a fight.
Indeed.
 

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I haven't read through the whole thread and apologize if any of this has already been touched upon. Lets put experience and talent aside. Some independent Sp's may or may not shine over their agency counter parts in this regard. The difference lies in economics......in my opinion.

Agencies work on volume....like insurance companies do. Although we complain about our insurance rates, they would be much higher if we were to be responsible for our own coverage and not part of an insured community. Agencies cover a lot of expenses through volume of service with many SP's represented. High volume from one provider will cover the low volume costs for another provider.

Independent SP's cover it all on their own dime. I don't claim to know what costs are covered by an agency but I would suspect the venue, maybe transportation and sundries.?. All of this would be covered by an independent SP.
 

TFZL1

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It sure seems to be a touchy subject, seems to get a lot of men and most of the providers all worked up when anyone discusses rates.
Take it easy, it’s just a discussion. Nobody needs to get thier panty’s in a knot. (That would be uncomfortable.)

The discussion was about why the big jump, nobody was telling anybody what to change, or what to Pay.

We each get to make our own choices on what we are comfortable with.

Having been a regular client of a few agency ladies who then went Indy, some will still charge me the old agency rate, grandfathered rate they call it. Same with a few Indy’s who increased rates, will still charge me the old rate. For that I’m grateful.
On the other hand, some lady’s I used to see regular, increased rates and told me I’d have to pay more. I said thanx but no thanks, good luck, best wishes. I hope they do well. But if its, out of my comfort range, I’ll move on. No hard feelings.
I even had one change her rates, up, in between the time I booked and the time I confirmed. So I said no thank you. She texted back that she’d do the old rate this time, so I went. She cut the hour short. Never seen her since. I still wish her well.

Another analogy;
Rather than streaming a movie online at home, I prefer to see movies in imax or in the vip theatre.
Big screen, big sound, comfy recliner seats and overpriced table service. The food isn’t that good but with all the trimmings, plus no noisey kids, I much prefer the vip, even though it’s more expensive. I’ll pay extra for good service. Even though it’s the same movie and ends the same way.

Good luck to all you Lady’s. Play safe, have fun.
 

squeezer

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Another analogy;
Rather than streaming a movie online at home, I prefer to see movies in imax or in the vip theatre.
Big screen, big sound, comfy recliner seats and overpriced table service. The food isn’t that good but with all the trimmings, plus no noisey kids, I much prefer the vip, even though it’s more expensive. I’ll pay extra for good service. Even though it’s the same movie and ends the same way.

Good luck to all you Lady’s. Play safe, have fun.
I agree with everything you said except your analogy because a higher priced indy over an agency girl does not mean better service, VIP service or better looking. She maybe all those but maybe not, the higher ticket price does not guarantee any of those benifits. Going to an IMAX theatre over streaming or a regular theatre does have some extra bells and whistles that deserve the extra fee.

The ladies that grandfathered you in I think were clever. They keep their regular client base (the bread and butter) and the gravy comes from the new customers, smart cookies.
 

Vermeer27

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They charge whatever they want to charge!

It's a relatively short career these girls have and they need to make as much as they can before they bail out, and unless they invest wisely and get lucky, or graduate to another high-paying career (with a lot of educational barriers in front of it) they'll never make escort money again.

Many of the girls who go indy are simply the ones with the intelligence and organizational capacity to do so, they're not the most attractive or the most skilled sexually. I've seen agency escorts who were far too immature and irresponsible to run their own business. They were barely capable of getting to work half the time, but they were great in bed and that's all I expected of them.

How many women in this business over ten years are still charging the top-tier prices? Not many. And there's always a new crop of young stars on the way up. I'm sure the "marry a rich guy" retirement plan works for some, but it's rarely that simple.
The smartest business move these girls can make is less a matter of the rates they change than of lifestyle choices: Save and invest as much as you possibly can.
 

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These threads are usually started by somebody who has no intention of paying the price for hypothetical providers they've never seen. There should almost be a sticky for this type of thread so that it doesn't keep repeating itself.

Guys - if you've seen the SP who went Indy and raised prices, you have a simple decision - pay up or don't. If you haven't seen the SP then it's a simple question - take the risk, or don't. Some providers are worth it, some aren't. Some are worth even more (these are the hidden gems we keep under the radar hoping they don't become TOO popular and then go Indy and raise prices. LOL!.... C'mon - we all do this from time to time).

In my experience if I don't enjoy the appointment making it cheaper wouldn't improve it. Eg: A mediocre experience at $400 wouldn't be fantastic at $250. OTOH, I've never regretted a great experience at any price. If it's all about getting the cheapest release - go to an AMP. There are NO SET RULES which cover the entire industry. There should be no tears about price after the fact (since you knew the price going in) and no pre-complaining if you haven't seen the SP in question. If you feel ripped off, move on - or write a review to advise others if it was really bad.
 

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These type of threads always make me laugh. Why people get so worked up over people's opinions is just hilarious. You got guys going back and forth like somebody is going to declare you right. The same SPs seem to always comment on these things. At the end of the day ladies charge whatever the hell you want. Like some people have said, there's a market for all. At the end of the day, guys need to stop worrying about other people's pockets. If you've been seeing an SP for a while and she changes her rate and you don't want to pay that rate, go see someone else. Plenty of girls out there guys. It's a business, put your emotions to the side and have fun.
 
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