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Most Of America’s Terrorists Are White, And Not Muslim

Smallcock

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Well, give examples.

I date it from the mid 2000's.
Let's try this... you and your article lump right-wing terrorism with white skin. No distinction is made. White terrorism has existed in the US since its founding.
 

Frankfooter

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Let's try this... you and your article lump right-wing terrorism with white skin. No distinction is made. White terrorism has existed in the US since its founding.
Ok, so white nationalism is an offshoot of the KKK.
Thanks for clearing that up.

So why do you still support them?
 

mandrill

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3 Dixiecrats out of hundreds switched to the Republican party after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed. The last sitting KKK Senator was none other than Robert Byrd. A staunch West Virginian Democrat.
Q: Which president's administration instituted the Federal Housing Administration in 1934? A: FDR (Democrat)
Q: Which president oversaw the FHA's post WWII discriminatory practices from 1946-1953 which led to white flight to the suburbs? A: Truman (Democrat)
Q: Which president sent in the National Guard to Arkansas when they refused to abide by the Brown v Board of Education(1954) decision? Made civil rights a national priority? A: Eisenhower (Republican)
Q: Which president's administration created and oversaw policies that further ghettoized Blacks and led to the disintegration of the black family leading to civil unrest and riots? A: L.B. Johnson (Democrat)

LBJ made blacks subservient to the state to secure their votes indefinitely. There's no denying history here once black folks become truly educated about what happened to their plight and who was responsible for it there will be 'black flight' from the Democratic Party plantation. It's already starting.

Get enlightened by reading Dinesh D'Souza's Hilary's America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party.
Kirk, go read "American History 101". This issue has been debated to death on this board - like all Rightie nonsense. It'll basically tell you what I just wrote. That southern democrats were their own breed and increasingly out of line with the majority of the party after 1945 and that there was a massive conforntation between progressive northern democrats and southern Dixiecrats - i.e. JFK vs George Wallace - in the 60's. The northerners won. The Dixiecrats broke ranks and left the Democratic Party.

And I presume LBJ "destroyed the Black family" by extending social assistance to single mothers? Right?

You write complete brainwashed nonsense,
 

Smallcock

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Ok, so white nationalism is an offshoot of the KKK.
Thanks for clearing that up.

So why do you still support them?
Who do I support that is a white nationalist?
 

basketcase

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It should be noted that many acts that have been labelled as right wing terrorism are in reality not right wing. It's liberal obfuscation to deflect from the true problem of radical Islam.
Sorry but radical racist Americans who quote the language of the Republican party sure seem more of a problem for the US than radical Muslims.
 

basketcase

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Let's try this... you and your article lump right-wing terrorism with white skin. ....
I'd describe radical Islamist terrorists also as right-wing. Both groups are conservatively minded individuals, resistant to change, generally of a strong religious background, who fear and despise others so much that they are willing to kill them.
 

oldjones

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Yeah you'll get more instances of "right-wing" terrorism since there are several hundred million more people in the US that are "right-wing" than are Muslim.

The fact that the numbers are even comparable indicates that Islamic terrorism is a serious problem that occurs at substantially and obscenely higher rates.
"Obscenely higher"? Higher than what? The 'normal' American terrorism rates?
 

danmand

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I'd describe radical Islamist terrorists also as right-wing. Both groups are conservatively minded individuals, resistant to change, generally of a strong religious background, who fear and despise others so much that they are willing to kill them.
Bingo. You hit the nail on the head.
 

Smallcock

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Yes, the rate is many thousand times more.
Statistics please. Show us the many thousands-to-one ratio of Islamic Terrorists to each poor outnumbered homegrown non-Islamic American-terrorist.

No need to quibble whether third or fourth generation Muslim girls named Bridget brought up in Dearborn MI should count as American terrorists or Islamic ones, but you owe more than just your say so.
 

Smallcock

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Statistics please. Show us the many thousands-to-one ratio of Islamic Terrorists to each poor outnumbered homegrown non-Islamic American-terrorist.

No need to quibble whether third or fourth generation Muslim girls named Bridget brought up in Dearborn MI should count as American terrorists or Islamic ones, but you owe more than just your say so.
There are 3.4 million Muslims in the US accounting for 1.1% of the population. I think you can figure out the rest.
 

mandrill

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Yes, the rate is many thousand times more.

Really?

You realize that Islamic terrorism in the West is well below 1% of the population? In fact, I believe it's probably well below 0.1%.

Even if Muslims are 10% of the population of the USA, it's still remarkable to say that the Islamic terrorism per capita rate is "thousands" of times above that of white Americans.

So let's see your stats.
 

Smallcock

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Really?

You realize that Islamic terrorism in the West is well below 1% of the population? In fact, I believe it's probably well below 0.1%.

Even if Muslims are 10% of the population of the USA, it's still remarkable to say that the Islamic terrorism per capita rate is "thousands" of times above that of white Americans.

So let's see your stats.
115 terrorist incidents by right-wing white extremists and 63 terrorist incidents by Islamic extremists. The former group is made up of over 275 million people, the latter 3.4 million people. What is it that you don't understand? If the latter had the same population size, they would have the equivalent of 5096 terrorist incidents to their name.
 

mandrill

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115 terrorist incidents by right-wing white extremists and 63 terrorist incidents by Islamic extremists. The former group is made up of over 275 million people, the latter 3.4 million people. What is it that you don't understand? If the latter had the same population size, they would have the equivalent of 5096 terrorist incidents to their name.

5096 divided by 115 = 44.3

The way I do the math 44.3 and "many thousands times" are quite far apart arithmetically...... ????

 

Smallcock

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5096 divided by 115 = 44.3

The way I do the math 44.3 and "many thousands times" are quite far apart arithmetically...... ????

Nonetheless you do see that one is significantly higher than the other. So enough with the equivocation.
 

mandrill

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Nonetheless you do see that one is significantly higher than the other. So enough with the equivocation.

"Equivocation"? How does that relate to "many thousand times"?
 

K Douglas

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115 terrorist incidents by right-wing white extremists and 63 terrorist incidents by Islamic extremists. The former group is made up of over 275 million people, the latter 3.4 million people. What is it that you don't understand? If the latter had the same population size, they would have the equivalent of 5096 terrorist incidents to their name.
The 115 incidents described as right wing white extremists is an exaggerated figure. But it's irrelevant in any regard. What is relevant is the casualties. In this century 3097 people were killed on American soil by radical Islamists. Conversely, 32 people have been killed by white supremacist/sovereign movement/anti abortion terrorists. Not hard to do the math as to what is the greater threat.
 

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The 115 incidents described as right wing white extremists is an exaggerated figure. But it's irrelevant in any regard. What is relevant is the casualties. In this century 3097 people were killed on American soil by radical Islamists. Conversely, 32 people have been killed by white supremacist/sovereign movement/anti abortion terrorists. Not hard to do the math as to what is the greater threat.
Saudi Arabia?
 

mandrill

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The 115 incidents described as right wing white extremists is an exaggerated figure. But it's irrelevant in any regard. What is relevant is the casualties. In this century 3097 people were killed on American soil by radical Islamists. Conversely, 32 people have been killed by white supremacist/sovereign movement/anti abortion terrorists. Not hard to do the math as to what is the greater threat.

Kirk, weren't 99% of those Muslim related fatalities caused in 9/11? Cue someone - maybe even me - saying that white terrorists have out-killed Muslims since that incident.
 

K Douglas

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Kirk, weren't 99% of those Muslim related fatalities caused in 9/11? Cue someone - maybe even me - saying that white terrorists have out-killed Muslims since that incident.
That would be incorrect. 2977 people died in 9/11. Since then 120 have been killed by Muslim jihadists. Half of those of course came at the hands of Omar Mateen. Still almost 4 times the amount that have been killed by 'right wing' terrorism.
 
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