Syrian Refugee Murders 13-Year-Old Canadian Girl

Phil C. McNasty

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What you're saying is that you're surprised that people get upset and react when their countries are taken over by foreign powers?
Is that the logic you're going with?
Which country did the US take over so they deserved the 9/11 terror attacks in your opinion??

Isn't that the same justification you're using for attacking Muslim countries?
How are you any different from Al Qaeada?
The only country I thought was justified to be attacked was Afghanistan after 9/11.
3,000 dead US civilians was an act of war.

The 2003 Iraq invasion was a very dumb move by Bush. Should never have happened, but whats done is done
 

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Which country did the US take over so they deserved the 9/11 terror attacks in your opinion??


The only country I thought was justified to be attacked was Afghanistan after 9/11.
3,000 dead US civilians was an act of war.

The 2003 Iraq invasion was a very dumb move by Bush. Should never have happened, but whats done is done
Not the way millions of Iraqis see it, Phil. But then, your friends and family weren't killed in the occupation.
 

mandrill

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No you have not
You presented two inconsistent arguments

So which is it?
1. do you think vetting is useless
or
2. Do you think the vetting by the UN was sufficient and met our security objectives?

You can not argue both

Ready. Aim Fire,

Trudeau did a damn fine job with NAFTA, huh? Weren't you the buddy-boy saying he couldn't get the deal?

Ready. Aim. Fire. Another win for Buddy-boy Larue.
 

mandrill

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And you continue to follow other peoples threads and criticize, but are impotent to start one.

Why is he impotent to start one? You mean he can't find the "new thread" button?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I've never defended radical Islam. You're just not bright enough to follow what I write. As far as you're concerned anyone who doesn't call for Muslims to be deported and banned is a "defender of radical Islam"
Whenever there's an Islamic terror attack you're the first person to say we're not allowed to criticize that fucked up religion, and anyone who does so is Islamophobic in your opinion. I'm too lazy to search all your posts for proof, but many Terbites will back me up on that one


And no, I'm not saying that it's justified for them to kill our kids. Again, you don't understand what I am writing
Do you even know what you're writing anymore??
You cant even answer LaRue's simple questions


I'm saying that perceptions are subjective. That most Iraqis perceive that Christians are waging a crusade against them. I gave you examples of events that they believe support that perception. Those events indeed support what Iraqis believe - at least to some extent
The 9/11 terror attacks and most of the European terror attacks were not carried out by Iraqi's.
9/11 was carried out by Bin Laden (a Saudi), and by Mohammed Atta and his gang.
Atta was Egyptian and most of his crew were Saudi Arabian as well.

Neither Saudi Arabia nor Egypt are occupied by the US or are waged war against.
Whats even more ironic is Bin Laden comes from a very wealthy Saudi family, he is (or was) in no way being oppressed by the US.

Try again, oagre


Then I ask you to think about your own comments that all wars are started by and involve Muslims and compare that with what Muslims believe and step back a little. You appear unable to do that due to intellectual limitations. Let's leave it there. You're too stupid to participate in the dialogue
LOL...so now you wanna quit the dialogue. Thats your favourite schtick when you're being out debated, you simply throw in the towel
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Ready. Aim Fire,

Trudeau did a damn fine job with NAFTA, huh? Weren't you the buddy-boy saying he couldn't get the deal?

Ready. Aim. Fire. Another win for Buddy-boy Larue
Why wont you answer his simple questions, oagre??
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The 50 year occupation of Palestine was listed as one about 4 of Al Qaeda's motives for 9/11.
That's what Bin Laden said?
First of all Bin Laden is Saudi, not Palestinian.
Second of all the US isnt occupying Palestine.
Last but not least, almost all of the other 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's or Egyptian. None were Palestinians.

So I ask you again, where's the justification in killing 3,000 innocent American civilians in the 9/11 attacks??
 

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Which country did the US take over so they deserved the 9/11 terror attacks in your opinion??


The only country I thought was justified to be attacked was Afghanistan after 9/11.
3,000 dead US civilians was an act of war.

The 2003 Iraq invasion was a very dumb move by Bush. Should never have happened, but whats done is done
Easy for you to say. The folks who were invaded, the survivors of those killed and wounded, and those born since, into that country which has known no peace under American occupation, don't see that anything is done and finished. Thanks to shock and awe, their suffering has continued for decades.

Since most of the 9/11 conspirators were Saudis, it might just be they saw the USA's hand-in-glove puppetry of that autocratic monarchy as a take-over. Perhaps Afghanistan "was justified to be attacked" because Bin Laden hid out in its wilderness, and the Government wouldn't hunt him down and extradite him as the US demanded, but I doubt even Americans now think that invasion was productive.

If you let yourself be provoked into going to war, you'd better have a clear idea of what winning the war looks like. None so far.
 

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First of all Bin Laden is Saudi, not Palestinian.
Second of all the US isnt occupying Palestine.
Last but not least, almost all of the other 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's or Egyptian. None were Palestinians.

So I ask you again, where's the justification in killing 3,000 innocent American civilians in the 9/11 attacks??
Why are you asking me?
I showed you what Bin Laden and AQ publicly stated were their motives for the attack and now you're trying to tell us that they are wrong and only you really know what their motives were?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Why are you asking me?
I showed you what Bin Laden and AQ publicly stated were their motives for the attack and now you're trying to tell us that they are wrong and only you really know what their motives were?
I'm saying Bin Laden and his gang were not Palestinians, so they had no business attacking America.

But lets use your fucked up Liberal logic for a second. Because Palestine is IYO occupied by Israel, I can then drive a truck bomb into the US consulate on University Ave. as a show of solidarity with the Palestinians, and thats perfectly justified in your opinion??
 

Frankfooter

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I'm saying Bin Laden and his gang were not Palestinians, so they had no business attacking America.

But lets use your fucked up Liberal logic for a second. Because Palestine is IYO occupied by Israel, I can then drive a truck bomb into the US consulate on University Ave. as a show of solidarity with the Palestinians, and thats perfectly justified in your opinion??
First you claim all Muslims work together against US actions in the middle east and now you tell us that they have no business doing so?
Which story are you going with?

And why are you calling this 'my logic', I'm just telling you what AQ and Bin Laden publicly stated were their motives.
What you really need to do is ask yourself why they came up with those 4 motives and what happened in the middle east for those to come about.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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First you claim all Muslims work together against US actions in the middle east and now you tell us that they have no business doing so?
Which story are you going with?
Where did I state all muslims work together against US actions in the middle-east??
Please post my exact quote

And why are you calling this 'my logic', I'm just telling you what AQ and Bin Laden publicly stated were their motives
But it sounds like you sympathize with them. Or do you not??
 

Frankfooter

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Where did I state all muslims work together against US actions in the middle-east??
Please post my exact quote
Post #292, #239 for starters.
In those posts you suggest that all Muslims are violent and anti-western, or anti US.

But it sounds like you sympathize with them. Or do you not??
I support peace, not attacks by anyone, US, Muslim or anyone else.
You clearly sympathize with the US attacks that have left 1-2 million dead Muslims, don't you?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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Post #292, #239 for starters.
In those posts you suggest that all Muslims are violent and anti-western, or anti US
Nowhere in those 2 posts did I state that ALL muslims are against the US (or the West in general).

Try again Frankie

I support peace, not attacks by anyone, US, Muslim or anyone else.
You clearly sympathize with the US attacks that have left 1-2 million dead Muslims, don't you?
I already said, I supported the Afghan invasion, but not the Iraq war by Bush in 2003.

You really dont read very well, Frankie
 

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So which is it?
1. do you think vetting is useless
or
2. Do you think the vetting by the UN was sufficient and met our security objectives?

You can not argue both
Answer the damn question
You can't seem to argue anything and have sunk from franky-like accusations to Canada-man style repetition.

You claim that the killer wasn't vetted. What evidence do you have? And despite what you claim, there is no possible vetting that can absolutely guarantee that a person won't commit a future crime, only reduce the risk.
 
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