The worst part of being an SP...

[CamillaBR]

I've seen a couple of posts recently about SPs attitude and whatnot, so I thought I'd share what has been happening A LOT in Ottawa lately... Seriously, was away from town for about two months and came back to a bunch of time wasters and harassment.

This lovely human never showed up for his booking, when told I wasn't going to book him anymore, he would not stop texting me. So yeah, sometimes I do get why an SP would sound "cold" through texts, or why she would be annoyed with 234567 texts instead of one with the whole info of what you are looking for. Most of time we are not dealing with potential clients, just time wasters and clowns looking to get a hard on.

https://imgur.com/a/Fz718tK

(Also, if any other SP wants this clown's number, PM me)

 

[The "Bone" Ranger]

Repeat clientele is what makes any business successful - if you take good care of someone who has come through the door he will keep coming back for more - less of a headache for both parties and no surprises/anxiety, just a thought and how I run my business (no criticism intended).

I've seen a couple of posts recently about SPs attitude and whatnot, so I thought I'd share what has been happening A LOT in Ottawa lately... Seriously, was away from town for about two months and came back to a bunch of time wasters and harassment.

This lovely human never showed up for his booking, when told I wasn't going to book him anymore, he would not stop texting me. So yeah, sometimes I do get why an SP would sound "cold" through texts, or why she would be annoyed with 234567 texts instead of one with the whole info of what you are looking for. Most of time we are not dealing with potential clients, just time wasters and clowns looking to get a hard on.

https://imgur.com/a/Fz718tK

(Also, if any other SP wants this clown's number, PM me)

 

[CamillaBR]

The worst part of being an SP is having a client book and not show up, and then having to respond to 7 txt's, still without completing the sale?

Sorry, thats the real world. not every enquiry turns into a sale. and when you're working for yourself you're going to spend time without getting paid, and sometimes even loosing money.

Ask anyone who's is business for themselves in other industries, car repair, vision care, retail clothing etc. Thee are customers who make you life a real pleasure, and others who make you want to quit. Guys in commissioned jobs have it even worse. Lots of time working toward the sale while competing with others. Only 1 of them is going to get paid. In fact the higher the paycheck the more you work for nothing or even loss money. Commission guys have car expenses, coffee, dinners, entertainment etc. When there's no paycheck they loos money.

I don't think you understood anything I said.

This "gentleman" booked with me a couple of days ago, he confirmed the appointment 30min prior to the booking time, as I asked. Scheduled time came and went, never showed up. No texts saying he couldn't come, nada.

Today he messages me again, looking to book an appointment as if nothing has happened, I told him I wouldn't be booking him again because of the no-show and that's when he started with the text harassment.

BTW please don't accuse someone of harassing you while you're responding to them in a business environment and refusing to take the order. It's not like a guy looking for a date with a civy.

Sorry, I wasn't "accusing" him. I was just stating the fact that he was harassing me. It isn't up for debate, specially since I had repeatedly asked him to stop messaging me. If "I won't stop texting you until you decide to meet me" after being told no repeatedly isn't harassment, I'm not sure what it is then.

 

[withpassion]

I just do not understand this!

There have been several threads lately where the OP has voiced a concern, a preference or a problem and one person chimes in on the negative and Ottawa and everyone who lives in the city is suddenly the biggest, baddest bastard that ever walked the earth!

In every environment you will get the good and the bad. That is a fact of life and, perhaps, just perhaps, that is what one of the responses was alluding to.

It's kind of like when a review ends with "Be nice to her" as if we need to be told that or else we'll go off the deep end.

I am so sick of reading the response (not the original) to these threads as if there is only one voice of reason and any hint of variance puts that individual on the low end of humanity!

Likes/dislikes tattoo's, likes/dislikes larger ladies, likes/dislikes freakin anything and what happens is a tirade against one side or the other.

The whole world is moving towards acceptance of everyone regardless of their bent. Why not here?

Yes, of course, there are the dickheads (male and female) that feel only their opinion matters, but who gives a rat's ass? Just ignore those individuals. Constantly responding just incites them to continue on!

In regards to this thread, yes, it's a dickhead move! Painting all of Ottawa with this brush is also a dickhead move (yes Charlotte, that's you with your second hand insinuations).

So, let's all just try to get along, respect each other's opinions and simply ignore the dickheads.

 

[withpassion]

Having empathy for the op is not a dickhead move

That what I am talking about. Yes, skew my words to fit your slant.

I was very specific in directing that at the all Ottawa is bad reference and NOTHING to do with your empathy for the OP, but, of course, you have to ensure you turn it around. Dickhead move to be sure.

 

[withpassion]

Please keep in mind that blacklisted guys and game players target new providers and touring providers and maybe receive more nonsense than average providers who live in the city.

Of course that is true, but that is part of doing business. If it's not worthwhile for an SP to tour here, then do not, but don't come off like all of Ottawa is bad.

There are a multitude of providers that do well here and don't complain although I'm sure they go through the very same problems.

I have to smile when I see an ad that ends with "time wasters will be blacklisted" like a time waster would stay away from bothering that SP because of that note. They would not care in the least because that's what they DO, so why even bother adding that in? It really is pointless. And that is my point. Just block, ignore, stay home, get a job at Walmart or whatever.

There are deceptive, malicious, scamming SP's as well. A thread gets put out there and the responses are thankful and move on rather than trashing all SP's because of it.

 

[blondefan]

i have always shown up at any times decided upon....
on the the other hand i have been stood up multiple times so it happens in both directions. Mind you i don't usually get stood up by well reviewed SPs.

Part of it I think is I usually don't book days in advance because if suddenly i'm sick I hate having to cancel a booking. It limits my options somewhat but I usually book the same day

 

[withpassion]

I usually don't book days in advance because if suddenly i'm sick I hate having to cancel a booking. It limits my options somewhat but I usually book the same day

Exactly! I book at the time of to ensure there are no hiccups.

Ultimately, the OP created this thread for a reason and the other SP's should just be saying thanks for the info and that's it.

 

[Frontstreet]

CamillaBR come to Toronto

 

[CamillaBR]

I think everyone is losing sight of why I made this thread.

It's not meant to bash on Ottawa, trust me, this city is full of time wasters but also full of amazing people who I had the pleasure to meet throughout the past few years.... Buuuuut, and I'm going to put myself on the firing line here, lately some (not all) of the reviews I've seen on forums are just straight out complaints that has nothing to do with the SP services. People complaining about a SP not responding back or complaining by the way she texted them.

I don't know about other SP's but the first step at screening for me is how someone will contact me, how you will approach me. And that why I made the original post, so some of you could see that we aren't always dealing with the best out here.

Seriously, here is a new one from today: https://imgur.com/a/G2KTYgm

Since when has Terb become a forum to "I will post a review even though I never met her in my life"? THIS is getting to common in Ottawa as well.

 

[curiousm7]

This thread has been an interesting read, to say the least...

Look guys, I've been around a while, as a client of many fine ladies and a contributor to this board. I always preferred this board over the other because we could be honest about both positive, and negative, experiences.

Sadly, a group of saviours have decided to put out a whole set of "rules" on what providers must do in order to earn business.

Photos with a piece of paper, then photos with name and date on the paper, then video proof, then instructions that clients should be asking for further photo proof doing something to prove the photo is as asked...what's next, jumping through rings of fire??

The intentions were honorable...trying to reduce the wasting of money on fakes and bullshitters however, it has turned into something else completely.

The objective has not, and will never, be successfully realized as SPs, particularly touring SPs, are inundated with all these proof requests and fake bookings for one reason only...so the saviours can come on here and report who will and who won't prove who they are.

Guys, wake the fuck up!!! Providers don't have time, nor should they take the time, do be preparing and sending out all the proof, on demand, only to have it be done to tell others whether they are real or not.

Make your booking with your lady, just be upfront and let her know that, if she is not the lady in the ad, you will not be staying...then report back.

That's the way it always worked. Fakes were reported successfully, real ones were reviewed based on the experience and the gorgeous touring ladies came regularly.

Seriously? If a lady can choose to go somewhere that works like that, why the hell would they come somewhere where clients demand hoop jumping?

 

[Jasmine Raine]

Wow! Camilla really slammed the Door on Shy2Shy. He was denied, stuffed, sacked, thrown for a loss, and is out of the Game.

Charlotte Edwards indicated that Shy2Shy has been bullying TO SPs online, and thanks to her for calling him out.

He has definitely met his match in Camilla, though. She doesn't put up with any BS, and has the brilliant intellect and writing ability to shred arguments.

I like visiting Camilla. In addition to her formidable physical assets, she possesses admirable intellectual abilities.

Nice work Camilla. Victory is yours.

VS2 is known to have issue against women. He hates the #metoo movement and is involved in men's only rights groups.

Anytime a women feels any type of harassment, he is in there like a dirty shirt to tell them they were not. He will use the lamest of arguememts to try and prove his point. Like you are only harassed if you feel harassed. Not if you receive multiple texts over and over and over again. Not if you are being threatened. Nope. It is your fault if you feel harassed because it is a state of mind. You can tell the type of sick owrson when they come up with stupidness like this.

He has publicly had many women on this board say they have blacklisted him.

He is best left to be ignored. Sadly that warning doesn't come up on his signature.

He will now accuse me of staulking, bullying and insulting him. Harassing him like he is the victim. Remember though sweetie - harassment is only a state of mind so ..... hahahahaha

VS2 - put my site this time when you link me please. It gets me better exposure then linking just my profile. Thanks pumpkin!

 

[Bamsis69]

https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...awa_giselle_exotic_brunette_bombshell-3610328

I think this is Camillabr correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

I'm not saying this is what the problem is in this case, but I do remember a LOT of chatter that competing SPs, their BFs or pimps were doing a lot of fake bookings. How true that chatter was and if is still a problem now I cannot say. Just throwing it out there for consideration.

 

[TFZL1]

i have always shown up at any times decided upon....
on the the other hand i have been stood up multiple times so it happens in both directions. Mind you i don't usually get stood up by well reviewed SPs.

Part of it I think is I usually don't book days in advance because if suddenly i'm sick I hate having to cancel a booking. It limits my options somewhat but I usually book the same day

I book in advance. And I Show Up. Usually on time. I was 20 min late a week ago for a session dinner movie date and I felt bad about being late. But she was very gracious and the nite went off without a hitch, although we did have to rush our Italian dinner a bit.

As for Ottawa, I’ve had some good times when I visited there. Last lady I saw was large promise and poor performance.
No bbbj no daty which was in her ad. But that happens everywhere.

Last time I stayed in a high end hotel I had a couple outcall lady’s. One turned out great and one turned out extremely great, she was horny and couldn’t get enough of me. She was a big part of the reason I started to explore more PSE style sp’s.

 

[TJnumbers]

This thread has been an interesting read, to say the least...
Photos with a piece of paper, then photos with name and date on the paper, then video proof, then instructions that clients should be asking for further photo proof doing something to prove the photo is as asked...what's next, jumping through rings of fire??

How complicated is it for a lady to purchase a copy of todays Ottawa Sun and take a picture of herself holding it as proof she is here and real? The paper is a dollar and she can text the proof to those who ask. The fakers get taken outta the game this way and everyone wins.

 

[curiousm7]

How complicated is it for a lady to purchase a copy of todays Ottawa Sun and take a picture of herself holding it as proof she is here and real? The paper is a dollar and she can text the proof to those who ask. The fakers get taken outta the game this way and everyone wins.

Not hard at all, until the terb hobby saviours pull the photos apart looking for photoshop evidence and start demanding specific poses while holding today's paper...and, if you don't think that will happen, then you really haven't been following the progression of the threads that dictate how proof should be shown or requested

Ottawa is quickly becoming known as an unworthy market by many reputable and high end providers...making much more room for the low budgets and fakers. Hobbyists, you only have yourselves to blame for this.

 

[TJnumbers]

Honest, the held newspaper is a tried and true. No one is even trying it. As for paranoia among the guys, with so many fakes and reported incidents among those in the know, I can't even fathom what the numbers must be like for those who dont do Terb. It is on a lady to prove that she is legit and here today. Too many fakers and bs going on.

 

[curiousm7]

Honest, the held newspaper is a tried and true. No one is even trying it. As for paranoia among the guys, with so many fakes and reported incidents among those in the know, I can't even fathom what the numbers must be like for those who dont do Terb. It is on a lady to prove that she is legit and here today. Too many fakers and bs going on.

And far too many fake bookers, time wasters, picture collectors and white knights demanding hoops, discounts etc...etc...

Guys...Ottawa is the worst city in Canada for demanding SPs prove themselves...even though fakes and BS reside in every market. Sorry guys, within the next 10 years, Ottawa's reputation will be the city that closes its doors on high end touring SPs and the clients themselves will be the ones to blame

 

[gmaximus]

And far too many fake bookers, time wasters, picture collectors and white knights demanding hoops, discounts etc...etc...

Guys...Ottawa is the worst city in Canada for demanding SPs prove themselves...even though fakes and BS reside in every market. Sorry guys, within the next 10 years, Ottawa's reputation will be the city that closes its doors on high end touring SPs and the clients themselves will be the ones to blame

I'm curious. Are you a SP or a white knight ? lol

What about all the hoops clients have to jump through to get a booking with "high end" SPs? The least the SPs can do is prove their pics are real. Personally I don't bother asking for pics or any proof. If the pics are not verified on Leolist or vipfavours or she doesn't make any effort herself to prove pics are real, then I pass. And I hope "high-end" SPs would atleast have a website to prove they are genuine.

Ottawa maybe one of the worst for clients but that doesn't mean clients should be throwing away money and feel lucky that there are SPs offering services in the city. And the idea that clients should walk away from the incall if the pics are not real is silly. Who has that much time to investigate. Fake SPs get away with it because some guys will go with it once they're at the location. Making time to see one lady is not easy for many. Who has the time to book another SP and then hope that she is available and real.