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Statistics Canada says economy grew 0.2% in July led by manufacturing sector

Higher than anticipated growth boosts expectations Bank of Canada will raise key interest rate next month

The Canadian Press · Posted: Sep 28, 2018 11:09 AM ET | Last Updated: September 28

Strength in the manufacturing sector helped the Canadian economy grow more than expected in July and boost expectations the Bank of Canada will raise its key interest rate next month.

Statistics Canada said Friday real gross domestic product grew by 0.2 per cent in July, an increase that followed essentially no change in June.

Economists had expected an increase of 0.1 per cent for July, according to Thomson Reuters Eikon.

Stephen Brown, senior Canada economist at Capital Economics, said the overall economy is on track for annualized growth of around two per cent in the second quarter.

"That would be stronger than the 1.5 per cent expected by the Bank of Canada in its July monetary policy report and is another reason to expect the bank to raise interest rates next month," Brown wrote in a report.

Growing price pressures

The stronger-than-expected GDP figure follows signs of growing price pressures that have also raised expectations of higher interest rates. The annual inflation rate was 2.8 per cent in August, down from 3.0 per cent in July, but still at the top end of the Bank of Canada's target range of one to three per cent.

The central bank kept its key interest rate target on hold at its rate announcement earlier this month, but most economists expect the central bank to raise the rate at its announcement on Oct. 24.

The Bank of Canada's trend-setting interest rate sits at 1.5 per cent after four increases since the middle of last year.

The ducks are in a row for an October rate hike, barring a shock on the NAFTA front.
- Doug Porter, Bank of Montreal chief economist

"On balance, the Canadian economy looks to have had a wee bit more underlying momentum than expected through the summer, and the ding from the Syncrude outage was not as deep as feared," Bank of Montreal chief economist Doug Porter said.



"As we opined in the wake of last week's solid core CPI (2.1 per cent on average), the ducks are in a row for an October rate hike, barring a shock on the NAFTA front."

Economist Derek Holt with Scotiabank said he also expects a rate hike, referencing remarks made Thursday by Bank of Canada head Stephen Poloz.

"I think this reinforces Governor Poloz's generally upbeat tone last evening and keeps us on track for an October hike," said Holt.

TD senior economist Brian DePratto described the GDP numbers as, "not too shabby."

"Economic growth may be set to moderate after the second quarter's impressive performance, but we still look set for another above-trend quarter. "

Trade talks could hurt Canada

The Bank of Canada has said it is closely watching the NAFTA talks and other trade policy developments, which could hurt the Canadian economy.

Bank governor Stephen Poloz has said uncertainty over NAFTA has resulted in less business investment in Canada than there otherwise should be.

In its report Friday, Statistics Canada said goods-producing industries grew 0.3 per cent, while services-producing industries increased 0.2 per cent.

The agency said 12 of 20 sectors gained ground as the manufacturing sector grew 1.2 per cent in the month, its strongest showing since November 2017.

Wholesale trade grew 1.4 per cent, while transportation and warehousing services grew 0.9 per cent.

Meanwhile, the construction sector fell for the third time in four months as it moved down 0.6 per cent in the month.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/statistics-canada-gdp-july-economy-grew-1.4842432
 

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that is actually quite disappointing considering the growth rate of our biggest trading partner.
Why is Canada underperforming?
 

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Here we go again .........

As usual unaware people are comparing apples to oranges and OTB is doing his usual Canada bashing using misinformation.

United States GDP Annual Growth Rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-annual
Canada GDP Annual Growth Rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp-growth-annual

Since Jan 2017, Canada has laid a kick ass on the US, only in 2Q2018 has the US surpassed us meaningfully. Considering the US economy is 10X bigger, has been over-stimulated by tax cuts and the POTUS is using tariffs to damage his once friendly trading partners, Canada is doing damn well!

Not to mention:
- we live longer and healthier
- we are better educated
- our country has a higher standard of living
- we have a lower crime rate and suicide rate
- much less mental health problems (lol - makes sense doesn't it)
I could go on for pages!
 

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A more accurate question, why is the US underperforming in GDP growth? #71 in the world. Trump claims you have the largest most diverse economy on the planet, you have "things" no-one else on the planet has, you have less taxes, red tape and regulations, lower transportation costs, a more favourable growing season, .........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate
US grew faster than Canada and all large wealthy European countries.

It’s hard to grow a large wealthy country, the fact that the US is the fastest growing large wealthy country means it’s over performing.
 

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Here we go again .........

As usual unaware people are comparing apples to oranges and OTB is doing his usual Canada bashing using misinformation.

United States GDP Annual Growth Rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-annual
Canada GDP Annual Growth Rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp-growth-annual

Since Jan 2017, Canada has laid a kick ass on the US, only in 2Q2018 has the US surpassed us meaningfully. Considering the US economy is 10X bigger, has been over-stimulated by tax cuts and the POTUS is using tariffs to damage his once friendly trading partners, Canada is doing damn well!

Not to mention:
- we live longer and healthier
- we are better educated
- our country has a higher standard of living
- we have a lower crime rate and suicide rate
- much less mental health problems (lol - makes sense doesn't it)
I could go on for pages!

I don’t know that a downward trajectory for more than a year qualifies as “doing damn well”....
 

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US grew faster than Canada and all large wealthy European countries.

It’s hard to grow a large wealthy country, the fact that the US is the fastest growing large wealthy country means it’s over performing.
Did you forget about China?

You are cherry picking your data. This is what you always do.

The US economy is over stimulated, let's talk again in 1 or 2 years. Are you still driving that Toyota and still vacationing abroad? You are a real good American OTB.
 

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I don’t know that a downward trajectory for more than a year qualifies as “doing damn well”....
lol. More trolling. If you are so jealous of Canada, why don't you go troll an American pooner board? Obviously TERB is yet another example of the many, many things we Canadians do better than you 'mericans.

Why was the US GDP growth weak in 2016 and 2017? Does this all point to tax changes and an over-stimulated economy in 2018?

We both know the CDN 2018 numbers were brought on in part by the US punitive trade tariffs and political forcing of companies to shut down in Canada and return to the US. Now that the political pressure is off and visibility lowering, let's see what happens in 12 months. Go ahead and cheer your foolish POTUS, know Canadians don't easily forget.

NAFTA 2.0 is a minor win for Canada - lets see if Trump honours it (he's already screwing with the steel and aluminum tariffs). China is eating your lunch in your trade war and now the Chinese have further confirmation that Trump is a paper tiger.
 

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As mentioned in the movie "The Big Short", the US housing market will collapse again because the US did nothing to regulate. It's not matter of will it collapse, it's matther of when.
 

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Did you forget about China?

You are cherry picking your data. This is what you always do.

The US economy is over stimulated, let's talk again in 1 or 2 years. Are you still driving that Toyota and still vacationing abroad? You are a real good American OTB.
China isn’t a wealthy country, I’d point you to per capital GDP stats.

Love the Toyota (now have two) and a vette. Going to Hawaii this year.
 

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I think the "real winners" are the Asian Pacific countries especially the smaller countries such as Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Philippines, Singapore, Vietnam, Cambodia, and perhaps Burma....

Let's the big guys continue fighting at each others such as America vs Canada, America vs China, America vs European Union (EU) countries, Canada vs Russia, America vs Russia and etc.

Harley Davidson just closed its manufacturing plant in Kansas after the EU retaliates American products such as Bourbon Whisky and Harley Davidson motorcycles by slapping the 25% tariffs on the American products after America slapped the same 25% tariffs on the EU's steels and aluminum. Consequently, Harley Davidson is building a new manufacturing plant in Thailand so it can continue to export to the EU countries and the Southeast Asian countries without paying the 25% tariffs imposed by the EU.

I would like to see in about 10 - 20 years from today whether the fights between the big countries are doing anything better for themselves. On the other hands, the smaller Asian Pacific countries are the ones who are benefiting from the "big fights" among the "big and powerful countries".

I believe that my prediction will hold true to itself.

Of course, we are all still enjoying cheaper pussies in smaller Asian Pacific countries such as Philippines, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and etc. LOL
 

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China isn’t a wealthy country, I’d point you to per capital GDP stats.

Love the Toyota (now have two) and a vette. Going to Hawaii this year.
Agan, cherry picking your data. Hey if it makes you feel good .........

Seems sad that Trump is defending an automotive industry that no-one wants to buy from including Americans. When will the big 3 wake up and start designing and building Japanese and German like cars?

Hawaii! So many Americans traveling in Europe the last few years sporting Canadian flags on their back backs. Problem is mericans are mericans. They can't help but be rude and tip poorly so they are easily identified. Considering your popularity abroad these days, probably best you stay at home. :wave:

Joking aside, I love your vette. Nice clean looks. The newest ones have gotten GM tacky again - I dislike all the bolt-on cosmetic crap.
 

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Agan, cherry picking your data. Hey if it makes you feel good .........

Seems sad that Trump is defending an automotive industry that no-one wants to buy from including Americans. When will the big 3 wake up and start designing and building Japanese and German like cars?

Hawaii! So many Americans traveling in Europe the last few years sporting Canadian flags on their back backs. Problem is mericans are mericans. They can't help but be rude and tip poorly so they are easily identified. Considering your popularity abroad these days, probably best you stay at home. :wave:

Joking aside, I love your vette. Nice clean looks. The newest ones have gotten GM tacky again - I dislike all the bolt-on cosmetic crap.
In the real world it’s easier to grow an economy with a per capita GDP of $8k vs $57k. In real terms a 3% growth of $57k far out strips a 6% growth of $8k. I was expecting you’d understand that but I might have been giving you too much credit.

Top selling vehicle in both in US and Canada is the F-150, by a pretty strong margin.
 

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In the real world it’s easier to grow an economy with a per capita GDP of $8k vs $57k. In real terms a 3% growth of $57k far out strips a 6% growth of $8k. I was expecting you’d understand that but I might have been giving you too much credit.
I suspect when you use the term "in real world terms" here, you actually mean. "in dollars". Switching from fractions and relative proportions to counting things is the only way that 3% can ever get to outstrip 6% of the same thing. And in the real world of human effort — which is what per capita is about — growing your productivity by any significant percentage is too tough ever to be called 'easy'.

But by all means, don't let me stop you asserting that it's easier for the rich to get richer, than for the poor.
 

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We're getting off-topic.

In the real world it’s easier to grow an economy with a per capita GDP of $8k vs $57k. In real terms a 3% growth of $57k far out strips a 6% growth of $8k.
Again, you are cherry picking your data and indicators to try to make the US look good. You cannot compare a largely industrialized country, with ample natural resources, automated/factory farms and a culture of everyone working for a wage (the US) to a country that has a much larger % of the population involved with agriculture or in non-paying barter, family or farm related work (China).

^^--- You are trying to distract from the original discussion where you were trolling Canada. The Canadian GDP growth outperformed the US in 2016 and 2017. The US numbers are currently high due to an overstimulated economy - as I said lets relook at the number in 12 months. Canada is well positioned to grow and is seeing excellent offshore investment. I'm hoping the gov't wakes up and get even more aggressive at looking for trade deals with non-American countries and companies.


I was expecting you’d understand that but I might have been giving you too much credit.
What I was doing was ignoring your tangential discussion.

Top selling vehicle in both in US and Canada is the F-150, by a pretty strong margin.
I said "car" intentionally. Pick-up sales although still strong are down in 2018 so far. Are you suggesting the big 3 should simply cancel most of their car lines and focus on pick-ups and a couple of their SUVs (like Ford seems to be doing)? Take away pick-up sales and the US's big 3 wouldn't even be in the top 10 auto manufacturers (maybe Ford).

I think you missed my point - I want to see the big 3 and Tesla succeed. Why can't GM and gang build a car comparable to a corolla, a civic, an accord or a BMW 3 series? The big 3 have done well with low end cars, big SUVs and some mid-size SUVs (Escape), why can't they seem to compete in the sports, mid and luxury car and SUV market segment? My neighbourhood is full of German, British and Japanese $75K+ vehicles. American/Canadian Engineers are certainly as smart and capable as any others, I think we lack good market research and designers and a greater focus on quality.

The 2018 vette is a good example. A technically superb car at a great price compared to the competition. Yet it's typical GM tacky styling and so-so interior. It does sell, but most people would rather a BMW, Audi, Lexus, Jag. The vette actually has a rather bad stigma associated with it.

China built 50% more cars that the US did last year.

 

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A more accurate question, why is the US underperforming in GDP growth? #71 in the world. Trump claims you have the largest most diverse economy on the planet, you have "things" no-one else on the planet has, you have less taxes, red tape and regulations, lower transportation costs, a more favourable growing season, .........
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate
Yeah the US is real worried that senegal, libya,Rwanda & sri Lanka are growing faster than them
How many of the countries ahead of the US on that list have a per capita GDP below what most consider the poverty line?
Growing an economy from next to nothing tends to spike up the GDP growth rate

The US is the largest most diversified economy on the planet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
Growing from 20 Trillion $US requires a whole lot more new business than growing 7.9 B as is the case with Rwanda

While I would never defend Trump, your list is hardly a good indicator of economic health
 

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Here we go again .........

As usual unaware people are comparing apples to oranges and OTB is doing his usual Canada bashing using misinformation.

United States GDP Annual Growth Rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth-annual
Canada GDP Annual Growth Rate: https://tradingeconomics.com/canada/gdp-growth-annual

Since Jan 2017, Canada has laid a kick ass on the US, only in 2Q2018 has the US surpassed us meaningfully. Considering the US economy is 10X bigger, has been over-stimulated by tax cuts and the POTUS is using tariffs to damage his once friendly trading partners, Canada is doing damn well!

Not to mention:
- we live longer and healthier
- we are better educated
- our country has a higher standard of living
- we have a lower crime rate and suicide rate
- much less mental health problems (lol - makes sense doesn't it)
I could go on for pages!
Canada's growth rate has slowed since 2017 & the US growth rate has increased
The tariffs will start to impact the US if continued. Their trade deficit increased in August
make no mistake about it our economy is linked to theirs & far too dependant upon natural resources.
it is extremely unlikely Canada can out perform the US for any sustained period of time
 

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Yeah the US is real worried that senegal, libya,Rwanda & sri Lanka are growing faster than them
How many of the countries ahead of the US on that list have a per capita GDP below what most consider the poverty line?
Growing an economy from next to nothing tends to spike up the GDP growth rate

The US is the largest most diversified economy on the planet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
Growing from 20 Trillion $US requires a whole lot more new business than growing 7.9 B as is the case with Rwanda

While I would never defend Trump, your list is hardly a good indicator of economic health
His Napoleon Mountie triggers quickly eh.....
 
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