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[Butler1000]

It is only Tony Podesta not John Podesta who is implicated. Besides Tony Podesta there are two others, attorney Greg Craig, who worked as White House counsel under President Barack Obama from 2009 to 2010, and and lobbyist and ex-Minnesota GOP Rep. Vin Weber. But there is no mention of any child sexual encounters or murder of that British child that canada man seems to have bought from the fake online news sources. Tell me if there was an iota of evidence in this respect, would the FBI and CIA not pounce on them and lay charges based on real evidence?

Interesting connections no. Especially because it involves family. I mean are you now saying that family will do things without the other knowing?

And yes the performance crap us just that. Crap.

But the working for Manafort and not reporting status? That is what Flynn did remember?

 

[bver_hunter]

snopes like other fact-checking sites are biased and discredited


podesta and FBI AND others are part of the same secret society networks. and the FBI recently allow agents to pose as Journalists

Again John Podesta has not been implicated in anything related to Manafort, only his brother Tony who ran the Podesta Group is. You are quoting 4Chan an online fake site. Snopes has real credibility unlike the 4chan that is a very biased alt right wing site. So goodness knows what secret society networks you are referring to. Evidence and real ones at that only..... not fake news like 4 Chan, okay!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Interesting connections no. Especially because it involves family. I mean are you now saying that family will do things without the other knowing?

Great statement from you!! So Trump new nothing about his son Donald Junior's meeting with the Russians as he claims. So you admit that he was lying then. Yes??

 

[Butler1000]

Great statement from you!! So Trump new nothing about his son Donald Junior's meeting with the Russians as he claims. So you admit that he was lying then. Yes??

Well it's either one or the other. If family knew then John Podesta knew the political group working for the DNC and the Hillary Clinton Campaign were involved with Russians. Had Russian connections. And the campaign chair for the Clinton Campaign knew his brother was breaking the law.

Wanna go there? Would you prefer to entertain the possibility that people, even family can work independently of eachother?

I'm willing to give Ol' John the benefit of the doubt. Let's see if you can see the light as well.

 

[LT56]

Well it's either one or the other. If family knew then John Podesta knew the political group working for the DNC and the Hillary Clinton Campaign were involved with Russians. Had Russian connections. And the campaign chair for the Clinton Campaign knew his brother was breaking the law.

Wanna go there? Would you prefer to entertain the possibility that people, even family can work independently of eachother?

I'm willing to give Ol' John the benefit of the doubt. Let's see if you can see the light as well.

Tony and John Podesta’s work was entirely separate from one another. Tony had nothing to do with Hillary’s campaign.

Don Jr was actively working in his Dad’s campaign.

Your attemp to view these situations as in any way similar fails.


Keep grasping at those straws...LOL!

 

[bver_hunter]

Well it's either one or the other. If family knew then John Podesta knew the political group working for the DNC and the Hillary Clinton Campaign were involved with Russians. Had Russian connections. And the campaign chair for the Clinton Campaign knew his brother was breaking the law.

Wanna go there? Would you prefer to entertain the possibility that people, even family can work independently of eachother?

I'm willing to give Ol' John the benefit of the doubt. Let's see if you can see the light as well.

What Russia collusion with Clinton? Stick to the statement that you made. If Podesta knew about his brother's involvement and connections with Ukraine, like you claim, then obviously Donald Senior knew about Donald Junior's Trump Tower meetings using your logic. So why is Trump lying? Do you agree that he is then a liar? Do not side step this question. If you are honest enough to now say yes, then I will agree about the Podesta brothers. Ball is in your court!!

 

[Butler1000]

What Russia collusion with Clinton? Stick to the statement that you made. If Podesta knew about his brother's involvement and connections with Ukraine, like you claim, then obviously Donald Senior knew about Donald Junior's Trump Tower meetings using your logic. So why is Trump lying? Do you agree that he is then a liar? Do not side step this question. If you are honest enough to now say yes, then I will agree about the Podesta brothers. Ball is in your court!!

Honestly I don't know what Trump knew. They may well have told him or not. If they did then Donny is in trouble.

But Trump still isn't.

 

[Butler1000]

Tony and John Podesta’s work was entirely separate from one another. Tony had nothing to do with Hillary’s campaign.

Don Jr was actively working in his Dad’s campaign.

Your attemp to view these situations as in any way similar fails.


Keep grasping at those straws...LOL!

I don't think so. John would have been the inside man. Advisor possibly chief of staff. Tony would have been the outside lobbyist with influence. And the Podesta Group they both founded would have made a killing.

That's how Washington works.

 

[bver_hunter]

Honestly I don't know what Trump knew. They may well have told him or not. If they did then Donny is in trouble.

Especially because it involves family. I mean are you now saying that family will do things without the other knowing?

Those two sentences are in contradiction with one another, if you now say that you do not know whether Donald Junior did political and business stuff without his father's knowledge!!

But at the same time, you know for sure that John Podesta was precisely aware of everything about his brother's business??

But Trump still isn't.

Not sure what your last sentence refers to. You saying Trump isn't a liar, or isn't aware of his son's business dealings?

 

[bver_hunter]

I don't think so. John would have been the inside man. Advisor possibly chief of staff. Tony would have been the outside lobbyist with influence. And the Podesta Group they both founded would have made a killing.

That's how Washington works.

John Podesta left the company in 1993. Donny Junior was part of the Trump campaign in 2016 as well as currently runs the Trump organization in tandem with his brother Eric.

 

[Butler1000]

Those two sentences are in contradiction with one another, if you now say that you do not know whether Donald Junior did political and business stuff without his father's knowledge!!

But at the same time, you know for sure that John Podesta was precisely aware of everything about his brother's business??



Not sure what your last sentence refers to. You saying Trump isn't a liar, or isn't aware of his son's business dealings?

We don't know do we. Just have anonymous sources at this point.

And remember I said I would give John the benefit of the doubt. But you won't with Trump.

I'm wondering what communications will turn up.

 

[Butler1000]

John Podesta left the company in 1993. Donny Junior was part of the Trump campaign in 2016 as well as currently runs the Trump organization in tandem with his brother Eric.

Inside man. Outside man.

John was the Campaign chair and worked for Clinton and the DNC. Tony run the Group. And according to financials disclosed both parties paid for the Dossier.

I'd say they know eachothers business and continue to work together quite recently.

 

[bver_hunter]

We don't know do we. Just have anonymous sources at this point.

And remember I said I would give John the benefit of the doubt. But you won't with Trump.

I'm wondering what communications will turn up.

You initially did not seem like giving John the benefit of the doubt until Donnie Senior and Junior were thrown into the mix.

And Podesta is a snake as well. If they go after him he might just have some things to say to stay out of jail.

So based on your above comments and to summarize we should agree that the Podestas knew everything thing about the business dealings with The Ukrainian Regime, and The Trumps about their dealings with the Russians at the Trump Towers. Then no doubt Trump is a liar and Mueller should proceed to the end so as to get to the bottom of it!!

 

[bver_hunter]

Inside man. Outside man.

John was the Campaign chair and worked for Clinton and the DNC. Tony run the Group. And according to financials disclosed both parties paid for the Dossier.

I'd say they know eachothers business and continue to work together quite recently.

The Republicans were the initial financiers of the dossiers, until the DNC took over it. So both parties were implicated.

Again, we will go by your assessment that the family run businesses and shady dealings were common knowledge to all the family members.

Trump is also in a hot seat and the clock is ticking!!

 

[Butler1000]

The Republicans were the initial financiers of the dossiers, until the DNC took over it. So both parties were implicated.

Again, we will go by your assessment that the family run businesses and shady dealings were common knowledge to all the family members.

Trump is also in a hot seat and the clock is ticking!!

Hey I'm game to nail all of them for election law issues. Haul in the GOP and the DNC. Rip open their books and servers. See what falls out.

Are you willing to see the DNC and the Clinton's supeonad?

 

[Butler1000]

You initially did not seem like giving John the benefit of the doubt until Donnie Senior and Junior were thrown into the mix.



So based on your above comments and to summarize we should agree that the Podestas knew everything thing about the business dealings with The Ukrainian Regime, and The Trumps about their dealings with the Russians at the Trump Towers. Then no doubt Trump is a liar and Mueller should proceed to the end so as to get to the bottom of it!!

Yup. And if Podesta knew then so did Hillary. Happy to trade Trump in to nail her.

 

[toguy5252]

Hey I'm game to nail all of them for election law issues. Haul in the GOP and the DNC. Rip open their books and servers. See what falls out.

Are you willing to see the DNC and the Clinton's supeonad?

Has any one suggested that hiring Steele or Fusion etc was illegal? What law are you referring to? Please quote the specific title you are referring to and not some made up feeling that it sounds like it should be illegal. And has been continually show by what is called evidence the dossier did not for the basis of the investigation. It is merely a convenient narrative point by the fire wall for the PGOTUS in the house Nunes, Jordan et al and loyally repeated by the Trumpanistas.

 

[Butler1000]

Has any one suggested that hiring Steele or Fusion etc was illegal? What law are you referring to? Please quote the specific title you are referring to and not some made up feeling that it sounds like it should be illegal. And has been continually show by what is called evidence the dossier did not for the basis of the investigation. It is merely a convenient narrative point by the fire wall for the PGOTUS in the house Nunes, Jordan et al and loyally repeated by the Trumpanistas.

Same law everyone screams about when it comes to the Trump tower meeting. Accepting assistance from foreign nationals to sway an election. The dossier was shopped to the press in June of 2016.

Therefore they paid a foreign national for dirt (showing monetary value) on Trump. And from Russian FSB sources allegedly.

Or. It's opposition research and fair game. and so is the Trump tower meeting. You decide which outcome you prefer. But they are the same thing.

And the dossier was touted as part of the reason why the investigation came about. The press has only recently backtracked on this after realizing what I said above was true.

If Carter Page was the cause that's been debunked as well. No charges there either.

So if the basis is dubious FISA warrants due to Page and a Drunk twenty something I'd say that's damn flimsy.

 

[toguy5252]

Same law everyone screams about when it comes to the Trump tower meeting. Accepting assistance from foreign nationals to sway an election. The dossier was shopped to the press in June of 2016.

Therefore they paid a foreign national for dirt (showing monetary value) on Trump. And from Russian FSB sources allegedly.

Or. It's opposition research and fair game. and so is the Trump tower meeting. You decide which outcome you prefer. But they are the same thing.

And the dossier was touted as part of the reason why the investigation came about. The press has only recently backtracked on this after realizing what I said above was true.

If Carter Page was the cause that's been debunked as well. No charges there either.

So if the basis is dubious FISA warrants due to Page and a Drunk twenty something I'd say that's damn flimsy.

So you are unable to point to any specif law. Why are my not surprised.

And the only people who think the FISA warrants are "dubious" are the apologists and sycophants of Trump and his unofficial defence team of Nunes and Jordan.

 

[bver_hunter]

Hey I'm game to nail all of them for election law issues. Haul in the GOP and the DNC. Rip open their books and servers. See what falls out.

Are you willing to see the DNC and the Clinton's supeonad?

Off course, if there is any dirt on her. Go ahead!!. But how long was the investigation on her emails by the FBI? Ages and yet nothing burgers. They should subpoena Trump's tax returns as well and get him to testify. You okay with that? So you still do not want to call Trump a blatant liar in spite of all your statements to that effect??