Touring Escorts Fakebooking

[ButtMonkey]

Hey guys, this Monkey's been around for a while. I post as often as I once did. Frankly because this forum has changed over the years. And I have changed, matured and learned a lot. And already shared a lot of my knowledge. So more of a reader then a poster for some time.
That said this morning, something pissed me off. And not the first time I hear about it, but figure I would post my feeling. So hoping this textual diarrhea can hit home where it counts.

I meet up with quite a few of these ladies over the year. But a resounding comment from them of the past 6-9 months: Ottawa is filled with Timewasters. Business is barely making sens to them with all the fake booking, time wasting flakes. Now at least 3 regular ladies I see when they travel to town are informing me they will only do Toronto or Montreal, Ottawa is simply no longer worth it to them.
There is even specific mentions that the TERB guys are the worst! That re-inforced with the story of the lady which i forget the name that got fake booked. And neg reviewed. (Neg reviews deleted... so cant find her name...)

What is the fuckin point of fakebooking and wasting time of travelling ladies? I wont go down the worm hole discussion of prebooking fees before as this will spark a whole debate in itself. But keep in mind most ladies are looking for some kind of return on investment. They have to invest some money upfront in getting their sexy asses in our little town. Renting an over-priced (its the Capital!) hotel room. That in itself is at least a 250$ expense a day for the cheaper hotel and more frugal ladies.
So do the math. She needs to see at least a few dudes a day just to not be in the red.

So let it be clear, as im sure some of the idiots that behave like this will read this post: They are far and few ladies that come here... Keep doing this and you wont have anyone else then the locals to harass.

Happy Hobbying & stay safe.

 

[Kakaa]

Would you consider this time wasting if you text for info regarding their rates and services and then don't text back when you find their rates too high or services not what you want? No appointments was booked though.

Regarding hotel cost. I think providers should consider Airbnb. It is much cheaper and I personally prefer them because they are much more discreet.

 

[asuran]

Points I've mentioned previously already.

Let's wait and see if b will chime in.

 

[ButtMonkey]

Would you consider this time wasting if you text for info regarding their rates and services and then don't text back when you find their rates too high or services not what you want? No appointments was booked though.

Regarding hotel cost. I think providers should consider Airbnb. It is much cheaper and I personally prefer them because they are much more discreet.

Well it depends. If its to ask questions that are clearly stated in the ad or website, a lot of ladies will consider it timewasting.
Otherwise, answering clients legitimate question should be part of doing business. But the ladies are usually flooded with text. So be concise and precise with the questions and dont linger. She isnt likely to enjoy your chit-chat if its non needed.

 

[downbound123]

I don't think it is a problem that is easily solved.
The Ottawa market compared to Montreal and Toronto is extremely small.
I may be off base here but any business operates on supply and demand and any influx of out of town suppliers potentially hurts the the local suppliers.
The answer for the local suppliers is to dissuade out of town suppliers from coming here and what better way than to fake book and make it financially not worth it.
As with any business you have to weigh the cost of doing business against the potential profit.
Because of the nature of this business it is hard to substantiate any theory with hard facts so all that is left is speculation.

 

[solo223]

It's just stupid but it would not otherwise surprise me that some local SP's do this to stir business their way. Anything goes in this business it seems, fakes, baits, fakebooking, promise of service not delivered, scammers, pimps, handlers, thieves etc....it's just the ugly nature of it. Sad but fact.

 

[randomott]

Solo is right. I have had several girls tell me that there are a few agencies/groups/SP's that do this. I'm sure there are some asshole guys that do it as well though.

 

[IsaMassage]

This is not a problem that is only happening to travelling girls is happening to us local girls too.. and yes there has been a n increase on fake bookings.. I no longer give my exact address to new people... but they still do the booking and dont ahow up... I ve had some people pretend they have arrived.. you give the address.. they say they are there.. and u give the ri g number but they never ring ... I dont live at my incall so I dont really feel unsafe but.. I would feel creeped out fo I lived there knowing some creep address collector knows where I am..

 

[withpassion]

Getting back to the touring SP's, I am always astounded at how much many out here seem to fall all over the travelling SP's.

Let's ask ourselves why they are travelling? Are things slow back home? Do they want a change of pace? Are they looking for fast bucks? Who knows...I'm sure they are all different, but please do not throw shit over everyone because those poor, sheltered travelling SP's think they are having a hard time.

Promote the local women here in Ottawa rather than fawning over the out-of-towners that have an attitude or, perhaps, a legitimate case. Either way, why visit here if only to complain? No, they have ulterior motivations, make no mistake on that.

P.S. Bobbiz, that was mostly for you so you can have a chuckle!

 

[OnTheWayOut]

I don't think bashing traveling SPs serves any positive purpose. They come here for all sorts of reasons like you said. It's always a good thing to have more choice and traveling girls bring a variety that augments local girls. I'm talking about the legit SPs, it would be great if the scammers would stay away.

Perhaps it is the scammers or their pimps or handlers that do a lot of the fakebookings, who knows? I really doubt there are really that many guys, especially Terb guys who fake book legit SP. Anyone can grab some handles from Terb and start a shit show. It would seem the fake bookers might have motivation to discredit Terb guys as this is the place they get exposed.

As long as there are assholes we will have to put up with this sort of BS. I can't see the assholes going anywhere soon.

 

[withpassion]

Because I like touring babes? I don't get it. I didn't chuckle and I like to anyway, nice to see your handle again, it's been a while. I always liked your perspective

Sorry, I only meant that touring girls tour for a reason or reasons and if they are complaining about touring, why even tour? I thought with that conundrum it would amuse you; apparently not...my bad!

 

[withpassion]

I don't think bashing traveling SPs serves any positive purpose. They come here for all sorts of reasons like you said. It's always a good thing to have more choice and traveling girls bring a variety that augments local girls. I'm talking about the legit SPs, it would be great if the scammers would stay away.

Perhaps it is the scammers or their pimps or handlers that do a lot of the fakebookings, who knows? I really doubt there are really that many guys, especially Terb guys who fake book legit SP. Anyone can grab some handles from Terb and start a shit show. It would seem the fake bookers might have motivation to discredit Terb guys as this is the place they get exposed.

As long as there are assholes we will have to put up with this sort of BS. I can't see the assholes going anywhere soon.

True...sadly, assholes will always be among us! I would think it's mostly competition though. And no bashing at all. Just the question: Tour if you want to tour, but to tour and then complain about the cost, inconvenience, etc, why even tour?

 

[withpassion]

I understand "life happens" but when over fifty percent do this...it can't all be "life happening".

Agreed, but who figures those stats and on what basis? All I am saying it that facts can get skewed with one or two personal view points.

I am not picking a fight, but I also believe that for every story, there is another side.

Why would Ottawa be any different except that it's smaller and either the stats get skewed because of this OR the facts are just a wee bit exaggerated. Why still tour here if it's that bad? I know some stop because of these reasons, but the fake bookings cannot be from punters to any significant degree.

I do realize that some can't really distinguish between fake ads and touring SP's who drop their ads on a regular basis and so searches turn up nothing, but, I would think, most punters just move along if not sure. That leaves the competition! Not our fault!

 

[ButtMonkey]

True...sadly, assholes will always be among us! I would think it's mostly competition though. And no bashing at all. Just the question: Tour if you want to tour, but to tour and then complain about the cost, inconvenience, etc, why even tour?

Who is complaining about the cost of anything? That wasnt my point.

Im pissed off because several ladies whom I enjoy their company are getting an opinion that Ottawa is a shit town to travel to, with idiots our are looking to waste their time, and cause a direct impact to their revenue stream.

I have nothing against local ladies, I generously also support the local talents. The difference it, when local girls get enough of dealing with the morons and decide to move on and retire, they often keep contact with the good guys. I have quite a few regular ladies (all highly reviewed here, and all missed) that I continue to meet on a regular basis, years after they retire for these exact reasons. (Dont PM me for name or numbers)

With travelling ladies, when they get fed up, they end up staying in other parts of the country which may not be convenient for me to travel for a mid-weekday play session.

 

[withpassion]

Who is complaining about the cost of anything? That wasnt my point.

I did not mean your cost, I meant for the travelling SP. I have read many times on here about members stating that the travelling SP's need to charge more to cover their expenses. That was my point: if they feel hard done by due to the extra costs, why bother?

Anyway, my comments were just meant as an alternative side of the story (and the questions) and not, in any way, meant to stir up the members out here.

Everyone has a story, but make it a good and happy one is all I'm saying!

 

[withpassion]

Ottawa being smaller would cause more of a significant difference than in a larger. I understand it's from only a few points of view, we need more input. The ones mentioning this (3 I can think of) are from TO, are members here and two don't advertise on LL or VIP so I can't say where they get clients. Twitter as well I suppose.

I wholeheartedly agree competition is a contributing factor but surely, at least some, is on us as well.

I also recall reading threads where the SP's love Ottawa because everyone is so nice.

Consequently, it may just be a matter of general demeanor. I have always found Ottawa to be more closed, so perhaps if the SP is very brusk with responses, that is a quick turn off for many (not an excuse, but a reality).

Fake booking for that reason, if the case, is totally repugnant!

 

[Cigarman16]

As is generally the case here I believe most, if not all, of the members commenting here are not the ones this thread should be resonating with. Fakebookers are a reality and there really is nothing the honourable punters can do. When this trend started it was done for the exact reasons bobbiz stated. Those that use it on verified or legitimate providers don't really care about the outcome... Other than to negatively effect someone else's business. For me, this conversation is mute because we aren't the ones that should be reading the message. And again, just my 2 cents.