Is DFK standard in romantic relationships?

explorerzip

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I have not. Perhaps I'm in the minority. But again, you are missing my point. I have no issue with a person who enters into a relationship in good faith, it goes downhill, and as a result he sees an SP because he is in a loveless, sexless marriage and he's tried to fix it to no avail. I don't think any good relationship starts with the notion of straying to solve any issues.

Let's choose Greek instead of DFK. You really enjoy Greek and your new GF indicates she doesn't like Greek and doesn't plan on changing her mind in the next 50 years. If your sexual satisfaction relies heavily on Greek, should you stay with this lady, marry her, and just see SP's to satisfy your desire for Greek? Or should you break it off early on and find someone else who enjoys Greek or is at least open to it?
The same point you and I made earlier still applies. If everything else in your relationship is perfectly fine, it would be unwise to end it if it's lacking in just one area. The wise thing to do would be to look at the relationship as a whole and what you want out of it i.e. marriage, kids, etc. My guess is that guys are not satisfied with their sex lives as a whole i.e. not getting enough so greek isn't even on the table. You would have to have a pretty empty life if lack of greek for example, would be the only deciding factor to end a relationship.

If you're seeking an actual relationship, then there's always going to be something lacking. So either learn to deal with it or you're never going to be satisfied no matter how many relationships enter into.

If someone is unwilling to look at the big picture, then why enter into a relationship at all?
 

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The same point you and I made earlier still applies. If everything else in your relationship is perfectly fine, it would be unwise to end it if it's lacking in just one area. The wise thing to do would be to look at the relationship as a whole and what you want out of it i.e. marriage, kids, etc. My guess is that guys are not satisfied with their sex lives as a whole i.e. not getting enough so greek isn't even on the table. You would have to have a pretty empty life if lack of greek for example, would be the only deciding factor to end a relationship.

If you're seeking an actual relationship, then there's always going to be something lacking. So either learn to deal with it or you're never going to be satisfied no matter how many relationships enter into.

If someone is unwilling to look at the big picture, then why enter into a relationship at all?
Very true. The problem is something minor for some is world-ending for others. If a relationship was 99% with the 1% missing being DFK, it would almost be considered stupid to even think about ending it, let alone actually ending it. No relationship will be perfect and every relationship evolves. Best thing for both parties is to be flexible and open-minded (within reason). There are some pretty extreme fetishes that I don't think the heavy majority of the population would ever be into so using that as a criteria would be waste of time.
 

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Very true. The problem is something minor for some is world-ending for others. If a relationship was 99% with the 1% missing being DFK, it would almost be considered stupid to even think about ending it, let alone actually ending it. No relationship will be perfect and every relationship evolves. Best thing for both parties is to be flexible and open-minded (within reason). There are some pretty extreme fetishes that I don't think the heavy majority of the population would ever be into so using that as a criteria would be waste of time.
Exactly. The OP said he is in a 'serious' relationship, which implies that both he and his SO have invested time and energy and time into it. We don't know how much time or energy, but it doesn't matter since everyone is different. A 'serious' relationship could mean 1 month or 1 year or many years.

There's nothing stopping the OP from dumping his GF because she doesn't do DFK, etc., but she won't take it well because she invested into the relationship and would feel resentful. That resentment fuels the general perception that there are few if any good guys out there.
 

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Exactly. The OP said he is in a 'serious' relationship, which implies that both he and his SO have invested time and energy and time into it. We don't know how much time or energy, but it doesn't matter since everyone is different. A 'serious' relationship could mean 1 month or 1 year or many years.

There's nothing stopping the OP from dumping his GF because she doesn't do DFK, etc., but she won't take it well because she invested into the relationship and would feel resentful. That resentment fuels the general perception that there are few if any good guys out there.
I just want to clarify that I am NOT in any kind of serious relationship at all. I am a single man. I made this thread because the SW’s that I’ve been seeing and that was sexually passionate about wasn’t giving me DFK and I thought so because maybe it was too personal or intimate for them or they are just displaying a really good illusion. So I thought maybe I should stop seeing SW’s and try to date and meet civilian women and develop a genuine connection with them so I can get the mileage that I want (Which is DFK)
 

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I just want to clarify that I am NOT in any kind of serious relationship at all. I am a single man. I made this thread because the SW’s that I’ve been seeing and that was sexually passionate about wasn’t giving me DFK and I thought so because maybe it was too personal or intimate for them or they are just displaying a really good illusion. So I thought maybe I should stop seeing SW’s and try to date and meet civilian women and develop a genuine connection with them so I can get the mileage that I want (Which is DFK)
Re-read what I've already posted. Stick with escorts if mileage is your main concern because you can ask them up front.
 

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I just want to clarify that I am NOT in any kind of serious relationship at all. I am a single man. I made this thread because the SW’s that I’ve been seeing and that was sexually passionate about wasn’t giving me DFK and I thought so because maybe it was too personal or intimate for them or they are just displaying a really good illusion. So I thought maybe I should stop seeing SW’s and try to date and meet civilian women and develop a genuine connection with them so I can get the mileage that I want (Which is DFK)
most single men come here to get dfk from an SW ... but you are coming here because you aren't even getting it if you paid them for it so now you seek the reverse order.

You know after your incident at HFH I felt that there was something strange this just confirms it.

VBB
 

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most single men come here to get dfk from an SW ... but you are coming here because you aren't even getting it if you paid them for it so now you seek the reverse order.

You know after your incident at HFH I felt that there was something strange this just confirms it.

VBB
Interesting...care to elaborate?

OP, if you aren't getting DFK from SP's, something which many provide, look in the mirror.
 

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Interesting...care to elaborate?

OP, if you aren't getting DFK from SP's, something which many provide, look in the mirror.
That would be a red flag if he's not getting DFK from SP's when requested. Even more foolish to pin his hopes on getting DFK on a potential girlfriend.
 

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That would be a red flag if he's not getting DFK from SP's when requested. Even more foolish to pin his hopes on getting DFK on a potential girlfriend.
I was referring to the "incident at HFH"
 

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Can we just use this as the standard definition going forward on Terb?
Seems one guy’s DFK is another’s LFK.


According to Merriam-Webster.com, the definition of Deep goes as follow:

1: Extending far from some surface or area: such as
a) Extending far downward.
b) Extending well inward from an outer surface.
c) Extending well back from a surface accepted as front.

Basically, inserting (shoving) your tongue deep inside one’s mouth...

This is not what I call French Kissing. I really feel like my mouth is being violated when I can’t move my own tongue anymore or when I can’t close my mouth because someone’s tongue is in my throat... And yes, deep-tonging creates and swaps a larger amount of saliva. I personally do not like to be on the receiving end of a spit fetish, so getting too much of one’s saliva in my mouth, and literally feeling it run down my mouth is definitely disgusting to me.

The dictionary also defines Deep as being "very intense and extreme"... This is why I don’t advertise LFK or DFK anymore. I find it confuses too many people. I just say I provide French Kissing.

This is my definition of each:

Kissing: Lip locking.
French Kissing: Lip locking, with tongue licking, flicking and sucking.
LFK: Tongue is slightly sticking out to allow both tongues to touch. Tongue does not penetrate beyond the other’s teeth. Pace and amount to your liking.
DFK: Tongue penetrate deeply into the other’s mouth, far past the teeth. Pace and amount to your liking. (I do not provide this type of DFK)

Perfect French Kissing (to my taste): A profusion of lip locking, with slow, tender lip sucking and bitting, and gradual tongue action. I prefer when we kiss at first, sensually, for a little while, and then slowly incorporate more intense tongues. Pace must match for better arousal and communion. Kissing without tongue should never be underestimated, it’s part of body language, and can communicate how you are as a person.

Worst French Kissing (to my taste): When there is barely any lip locking. When the first thing I get is a tongue in my mouth. When tonging is the only goal. When both paces don’t match. When the other’s face or mouth is too close, literally putting a pressure on mine. Agressive kissing at first. Tongue-shoving, teeth-banging, stiff tongues and drooling saliva... Just like nipple licking and sucking, I can tell if a man will meet my needs orally when I watch or feel him kissing me.
 
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