US will be taking name in Jerusalem vote...most dickish admin in history?

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A list from Jan to September 2017

Over 2000 stone throwing attacks, almost 500 fire bomb attacks in 9 months.

In January 2017:
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/ForeignPolicy/Terrorism/Palestinian/Pages/Wave-of-terror-October-2015.aspx
Biased source, its from the occupation forces.

Come up with a non-biased source like an NGO.
Like the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights.
Israeli forces escalated the excessive use of force in the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt)
Two Palestinian civilians, including a child, were killed, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
89 Palestinian civilians, including 12 children, were wounded in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
53 of them were hit with live bullets, 23 were hit with rubber-coated metal bullets, and 13 were hit with tear gas canisters.
Nine civilians, including 7 children and a woman, were arrested in a protest in the West Bank.
Israeli forces conducted 69 incursions into Palestinian communities in the West Bank and a limited one was conducted in the southern Gaza Strip.
79 civilians, including 10 children and a woman, were arrested.
20 of them, including a child and a woman, were arrested in Jerusalem.
Israeli authorities continue to create a Jewish Majority in occupied East Jerusalem.
A store was closed in addition to confiscating its contents in Silwan village.
Israeli warplanes launched 2 airstrikes at 2 military sites for armed groups, but no casualties were reported.
3 shooting incidents targeting the Palestinian fishing boats occurred in the Gaza Strip, but no casualties were reported.
4 shooting incidents targeting the Palestinian fishing boats occurred in the Gaza Strip.
Israeli forces turned the West Bank into cantons and continued to impose the illegal closure on the Gaza Strip for the 11th
Dozens of temporary checkpoints were established in the West Bank and others were re-established to obstruct the movement of Palestinian civilians.
5 Palestinian civilians were arrested at the checkpoints in the West Bank.
http://pchrgaza.org/en/?p=10272

And note that's just one week, which looks way more violent then your reports.
If you considered Palestinians human, you'd be outraged.
 

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Biased source, its from the occupation forces....
What a surprise that you call any report you don't like fake news. And it's amazing you call an Israeli source biassed but automatically accept a Palestinian press release. Do you not think that is a double standard?


BTW. Here is another attack on a "trespasser' for you to justify.

Israeli man killed in West Bank drive-by shooting attack

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-man-seriously-injured-in-west-bank-drive-by-shooting-attack/

You have criticized Israelis throwing stones while ignoring Palestinians throwing stones and pretended Hamas terror rockets aren't a problem so I have no doubt you will claim that it was the Rabbi's fault for driving in the West Bank.

You should just be honest like your Hamas heroes who openly praised this "heroic" attack on a civilian.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hailing-west-bank-shooting-hamas-warns-of-more-attacks-to-come/
 

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What a surprise that you call any report you don't like fake news. And it's amazing you call an Israeli source biassed
I used Israeli sources and have regularly quoted Haaretz, Jerusalem Post, B'teselem and other NGO's.

The only source I'm calling out is the IDF, as pretending that an illegally occupying army is a legit news source is just ridiculous.
The problem for you is that the IDF is the only source you'll quote on the story of the farmer who was shot by illegal Israeli settlers.

Even now you're trying to change the topic, since you've been shown to be worse then a hasbara troll.

You supported the murder of a Palestinian civilian by Israeli terrorists.
 

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I used Israeli sources and have regularly quoted Haaretz, Jerusalem Post, B'teselem and other NGO's.....
When you like what they say sure. Then you turn around and ignore them when they say something you don't like when they say Gaza rockets are terrorism.

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Biased source, its from the occupation forces.

Come up with a non-biased source like an NGO.
What a moronic statement but if being an NGO makes the unbiassed in your eyes, I'll start quoting them too.
 

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Even now you're trying to change the topic, since you've been shown to be worse then a hasbara troll.

You supported the murder of a Palestinian civilian by Israeli terrorists.
What a surprise. You refuse to condemn Palestinian terrorism and lie about what I say.

And the topic was Palestinians vs Israeli violence. Seems as ususual you don't want to discuss when Palestinins do bad things.

Besides the random murder of an Israeli for daring to drive, there were 219 firebomb attacks by Palestinians in December for you to ignore.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/terro...mp-jerusalem-recognition-shin-bet-stats-show/
 

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What a surprise. You refuse to condemn Palestinian terrorism and lie about what I say.

And the topic was Palestinians vs Israeli violence.
The topic was how you called an incident where Illegal settlers trespassed on Palestinian land and shot a civilian Palestinian farmer and killed him, because he wouldn't move out the way.
This you defended by calling 'an attack on Israelis'.

So now even when Israelis go out and shoot Palestinians on their own land you are here on this board supporting what you have labelled as terrorism previously.
You are now a terrorist supporter.

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-in-history&p=6021618&viewfull=1#post6021618
 

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Here are reports from the sources you claim to support.

HAMAS BLESSES SHOOTING ATTACK AGAINST RABBI, CALLS IT 'HEROIC'

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...g-attack-against-rabbi-calls-it-heroic-533391

US AMBASSADOR: PALESTINIAN ENDORSEMENT OF TERROR IS WHY THERE'S NO PEACE
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-C...nian-reactions-are-why-theres-no-peace-533344

Really, so you think supporting terrorism is evil?
Yet on this thread you personally supported an act of terrorism.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-in-history&p=6021618&viewfull=1#post6021618

You supported and defended illegal Israeli settlers going out and shooting an unarmed Palestinian farmer on his land.
That is terrorism, which puts you on exactly the same level as Hamas.

Aren't you disgusted with yourself?
 

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And of course you refuse to criticize the Palestinians who murdered a rabbi driving home, you refuse to criticize Hamas for celebrating it, and you refuse to criticize regular Palestinian attacks on Jews.


I'm sure you will be here criticizing Israel for trying to arrest the murderers though.
 

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This you defended by calling 'an attack on Israelis'....
Actually an attack on Jews. If they were Israeli Arabs no one would have cared about them walking in the West Bank.

And you of course ignore where I said the guy who shot should be charged with reckless use of a firearm or manslaughter. At the same time you still pretend that Palestinians have he right to attack Jews in the West Bank.
 

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Sorry but that thread is where you are supporting attacks on Jews for daring to walk in the West Bank.
The news reports show that what you call 'Jews for daring to walk in the West Bank' is really terrorist squatters trespassing on Palestinian land and shooting a civilian farmer who wouldn't move out of their way.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-in-history&p=6021618&viewfull=1#post6021618

What you call an 'attack on Jews' is a case of Israeli terrorism resulting in the murder of a Palestinian.

You are still defending terrorism here.
 

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The news reports show that what you call 'Jews for daring to walk in the West Bank' is really terrorist squatters trespassing on Palestinian land and shooting a civilian farmer who wouldn't move out of their way.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-in-history&p=6021618&viewfull=1#post6021618

What you call an 'attack on Jews' is a case of Israeli terrorism resulting in the murder of a Palestinian.

You are still defending terrorism here.
If they were Israeli Arabs they wouldn't have shot a farmer as they trespassed on his land just because he wouldn't move out of the way.
That's pure Israeli terrorism you're supporting.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-in-history&p=6021618&viewfull=1#post6021618

You support apartheid and now terrorism.
Disgusting.
You go to pathetic lengths to justify Palestinian violence. Do you not see how sickening your claims of 'self defence' are whenever a Palestinian attacks a Jew in the West Bank?

The latest MAJOR example of someone being attacked because they are a Jews in the West Bank is the Rabbi who was gunned down and you even choose to ignore that. At least you are not stupid enough to claim to support peace while blaming the Rabbi for being a "terrorist squatters trespassing on Palestinian land".

Only scum think that living in the West Bank makes Jews "terrorists".
 

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Its really quite disgusting how you label an illegal Israeli settler who trespasses on Palestinian land ...
Keep on claiming that Jews in the West Bank are 'trespassing' and therefore valid targets.

And why do you refuse to comment on Palestinian terrorism?

Israeli man killed in West Bank drive-by shooting attack
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https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-man-seriously-injured-in-west-bank-drive-by-shooting-attack/

Hailing West Bank shooting, Hamas warns of more attacks to come
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hailing-west-bank-shooting-hamas-warns-of-more-attacks-to-come/
 

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Keep on claiming that Jews in the West Bank are 'trespassing' and therefore valid targets.
Those illegal settlers trespassed and then shot a civilian farmer, a clear act of terrorism that you continue to support.
They only became a target, according to all reports, after they committed their act of terrorism.
Why are you both supporting terrorism and stating that Palestinians don't have a right to defend themselves from terrorism?

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthrea...n-in-history&p=6021618&viewfull=1#post6021618
 

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Those illegal settlers trespassed...


And once again you post the racist shit that Jews in the West Bank are illegal and trespassers. Anything to justify Palestinian violence.

And still waiting for your condemnation of Palestinian terrorism and Hamas' support for it.
 

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And once again you post the racist shit that Jews in the West Bank are illegal and trespassers. Anything to justify Palestinian violence.
Its not racist, its stating the law according to the Geneva Conventions.
Stop calling human rights and international law 'racist', its pathetic.

The Israeli settlement project is a war crime

This week saw a new round of construction approvals by the Israeli government for settlement housing units, the majority of which are for colonies "deep" in the occupied West Bank.

The settlement homes were advanced by a committee of the so-called Civil Administration, part of the defence ministry, which forms a key part of the bureaucratic process for advancing settlement construction in the West Bank (East Jerusalem, illegally annexed by Israel, is treated differently).

As is often the case, the headline figures for settlement construction approvals published by Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman were disputed, with Israeli daily Haaretz reporting that the tally included "hundreds of housing units that have already been approved and are merely going on the market".

Arguments over whether such announcements involve "recycled" numbers are used by some to downplay their significance. In fact, the multi-stage planning process is an important reminder that the settlements are a state-run enterprise – with all that means when it comes to accountability.

Recently, a senior Knesset committee was reportedly warned, as part of a secret briefing, that 2018 could see the International Criminal Court (ICC) move from the preliminary examination phase into formal investigations of the 2014 Gaza war and West Bank settlements.

While much of the analysis about the ICC's examination of potential war crimes in the state of Palestine focused on atrocities committed in the Gaza in the 2014 war, it is the settlement enterprise in the West Bank and East Jerusalem that may well be Israel's undoing

When, or if, that happens, it will put the focus squarely on those Israeli state bodies and officials responsible for the settlement enterprise. No wonder the ICC is seen as a strategic threat.

In the latest update published last month, the ICC's Office of the Prosecutor (OTP) made clear that with respect to the situation in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, it has "focused its analysis on settlement-related activities", a category that includes the "displacement of Palestinian residents".

The document noted how "the Israeli authorities have allegedly been involved in the settlement of civilians onto the territory of the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and the forced removal of Palestinians from their homes in the West Bank and East Jerusalem".

The "allegedly", of course, is part of the legal protocol. No one disputes these activities have been taking place – indeed, the Israeli government boasts about it.

The OTP went on to note various forms of settlement-related activities, including land confiscation, the "planning and authorisation of settlement expansions", construction of "residential units and related infrastructures", and retroactive authorisation of outposts.

Other activities included "public subsidies, incentives and funding specifically allocated to settlers and settlements' local authorities to encourage migration to the settlements and boost their economic development". In other words, systematic, across-the-board, state-level involvement.


Thus, while much of the analysis about the ICC's examination of potential war crimes in the state of Palestine has focused on atrocities committed in the Gaza Strip in summer 2014, it is the settlement enterprise in the West Bank and East Jerusalem that may well be Israel's undoing.

As Human Rights Watch noted, when Palestine formally joined the ICC in 2015, the Rome Statute "classifies as a war crime an occupying power's transfer of its own civilians 'directly or indirectly' into territory it occupies".

It was the inclusion of this article that meant Israel "decided not to ratify the statute or become a member of the ICC". Ahead of Palestine joining the ICC, Israeli legal expert Aeyal Gross observed how Israel would not have a leg to stand on if and when the court considered the settlement enterprise.

It is vital that the Israeli government and complicit institutions face the consequences for a flagrantly, unashamedly criminal policy

"Since the establishment of the settlements was based on cabinet decisions and with Israeli government funding, it would be difficult to argue that the policy has not involved a transfer of population by the state," he wrote.

Additionally, "a finding that the court does not have jurisdiction if the relevant state has investigated a matter itself would also not be relevant here inasmuch as it involves government policy".

Finally, the "scope and duration of the settlement enterprise, along with its concomitant deprivation of the Palestinian right to self-determination" would likely be seen as meeting “the requirement that the court deal only with particularly grave matters", Gross explained.

Putting aside the question of the ICC for a moment, there is an additional point to be made with respect to Israeli violations and accountability.

Proposals to label, or even ban the import of, goods produced in Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territory are now very much part of mainstream political discussion in the UK and Europe. This, of course, is a positive development.

There is, however, a key flaw with a rigid, 'settlements-only' boycott (as opposed to a strategic, settlements-focused campaign). Since it is the Israeli government that is primarily responsible for the settlements, they should be the address for accountability and sanction – in addition, of course, to complicit entities and institutions like Israeli banks.

When, for example, a clothes or shoe manufacturer is found to be using sweatshop labour, no one proposes boycotting only the products that came from those specific factories; rather, the company responsible for the practice is held responsible and, when necessary, targeted for boycott.

The Israeli settlement project is a war crime, and at the core of an inherently discriminatory regime. It is not an issue to be "dealt with" whenever there is a comprehensive political agreement.

As we wait – possibly for some time – for the ICC to take action, it is vital that the Israeli government and complicit institutions face the consequences for a flagrantly, unashamedly criminal policy.
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/israeli-settlement-project-war-crime-620679332
 

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Its not racist, ...
Of course it is. The fact that you see Jews as trespassers makes your stance clear and it is something you have been consistent with. Just as you justify attacks on Jewish civilians, you have repeatedly said Jews legally buying land justified attacks on Arab Jews in Hebron, Jerusalem, and other Arab countries. Also your claim that Jews legally immigrating and legally purchasing land was 'colonization' and Israel is a colonial power despite half of Israel's Jews having recent ancestors chased from their Arab homes.

The fact that you purposely ignore atrocious actions by Palestinian terrorists and terrorist organizations like Hamas shows your posts are about racism, not human rights.


Israeli man killed in West Bank drive-by shooting attack

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-man-seriously-injured-in-west-bank-drive-by-shooting-attack/

Hailing West Bank shooting, Hamas warns of more attacks to come
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hailing-west-bank-shooting-hamas-warns-of-more-attacks-to-come/
 
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