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does your phone company keep a record of numbers you call/text?

ihacks

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I found my phone company keeps a record of the numbers I text/call (it is viewable through the online account)

Is there an app that can bypass this (for hobbying purposes)
 

unassuming

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Get a Seven Eleven disposable phone for lobbying, and keep it well hidden from the wife. You don't have to register your name etc...
 

TeeJay

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All phone companies in Canada are required to keep records (even 7-11)
You also do legally need to register your name etc (even 7-11)
Even if you do lie about name / address etc it is super easy to track you down (even for non law enforcement, since it sounds like you are more concerned with hiding from wife)
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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Even if you do lie about name / address etc it is super easy to track you down (even for non law enforcement, since it sounds like you are more concerned with hiding from wife)
Please enlighten me - the Petro Canada phone SIM you can buy with cash and top up with cash - assuming you buy a used unlocked phone off of Kijiji - how do they track you?
 

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Please enlighten me - the Petro Canada phone SIM you can buy with cash and top up with cash - assuming you buy a used unlocked phone off of Kijiji - how do they track you?
+1. Pay for and top up with cash only (never electronically), 'register' online via a public Wi-Fi network (using any alias), and hobby with impunity. Any call/text records associated with that phone can certainly be retrieved, but there are hardly any means of tracing those communications back to you if you follow the basic steps above. (I use the 7-11 Speakout pay-as-you-go phone.)
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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At the most I can see them being able to narrow down your location at any given time or monitor your movements in and out of hotel cctv but that has nothing to do with the cellular service.

+1. Pay for and top up with cash only (never electronically), 'register' online via a public Wi-Fi network (using any alias), and hobby with impunity. Any call/text records associated with that phone can certainly be retrieved, but there are hardly any means of tracing those communications back to you if you follow the basic steps above. (I use the 7-11 Speakout pay-as-you-go phone.)
 

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All phone companies in Canada are required to keep records (even 7-11)
You also do legally need to register your name etc (even 7-11)
Even if you do lie about name / address etc it is super easy to track you down (even for non law enforcement, since it sounds like you are more concerned with hiding from wife)
I don't know which 711 you went to, but the one I went to took cash.completely anonymous. no information at all rendered. cash top ups. maybe special ops are tracking my every move, but not from any registering or exchanging of information on my part.Anyway. only way to go. things can seriously fuck up using your regular phone. talk about shitting in your own nest.
 

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I'm with Rogers and yes it all shows up on the bill. Well calls do, not sure about texts do but this is why I use an app for hobby calls and texting just in case. One swipe and it's all gone. Maybe not LE proof but definitely SO proof. I have an advantage that the SO is an apple user and I use android, she'd have no clue how to dig through the partitions/file structure to find anything. I'm no guru but I am fairly technically oriented and I'm diligent about keeping everything buried, as in if I'm asked to hand over my phone at any moment there will be nothing to find. I've thought about getting a cash only SIM card but then I'd have to use a second device and I don't see any advantage doing this.
 

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I don't know which 711 you went to, but the one I went to took cash.completely anonymous. no information at all rendered. cash top ups. maybe special ops are tracking my every move, but not from any registering or exchanging of information on my part.
What he said, completely anonymous.
 

james t kirk

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All phone companies in Canada are required to keep records (even 7-11)
You also do legally need to register your name etc (even 7-11)
Even if you do lie about name / address etc it is super easy to track you down (even for non law enforcement, since it sounds like you are more concerned with hiding from wife)
Wrong.

Pay in cash at 711 and ask them to register the phone for you.

But I do agree that they can track you down. They know what number you called, GPS coordinates where you called from, and even if the phone is off, they can ping it and find it.

Find the phone, find you, connect the dots.
 

TeeJay

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Anyone who thinks a 7-11 is "completely anonymous" is an utter fool & deserves to get busted
Even if you made no simple mistakes (using an IMEI that can be traced to you, jumping on your home/work WiFi network, paying with credit/debit, linking any personal accounts etc)

I'd also point out the obvious fact that using an obvious alias attracts more attention to your account
Since 7-11 is on the hook if audited
 

The "Bone" Ranger

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, and even if the phone is off, they can ping it and find it.
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this is not possible unless there is software installed on your phone to give the deception to you that is off when it is actually isn't (it is not transmitting when off, especially if the battery is pulled out)
 
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