Your belief that Palestinians are attacking any Jew in the West Bank is disgusting.
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I'm still waiting to see if you can answer where those armed settlers were when they had stones thrown at them.Your belief that Palestinians are attacking any Jew in the West Bank is disgusting.
Were they in Israel or in Palestine?
Why can't you answer?
I love seeing you supporting attacks on a group of Israeli civilians, mostly children. You sir, are a complete fraud when you pretend to be pro-peace (or pro-morals).I'm still waiting to see if you can answer where those armed settlers were when they had stones thrown at them.
Were they in Israel or in Palestine?
Why can't you answer?
Where did I say I supported what happened?I love seeing you supporting attacks on a group of Israeli civilians, mostly children. You sir, are a complete fraud when you pretend to be pro-peace (or pro-morals).
You sir, are a lying hasbara troll more interested in promoting apartheid then the truth.
Before we can discuss the morality of this incident and murder of a Palestinian civilian farmer, which you supported, we need to identify where it happened.
Did the murder of the Palestinian civilian occur in Israel or Palestine?
Answer please.
The actual story is that Palestinians attacked a bunch of kids out for a hike and one of their armed escorts shot at them.
From a logical level we have two possibilities. One is a guy taking a bunch of kids out for a hike randomly decided to shoot a farmer. The other is a bunch of Palestinians decided to attack Jews. Considering the latter is a regular occurrence, the Israeli reports seem far more credible than reports from a news agency run by what you characterize as a weak, corrupt government.
Here are your statements on the killing of a Palestinian farmer, shot on his farm.Except he likely wasn't just working on his farm. The kids were attacked by a mob of stone throwers. I already stated I'm against armed settlers but I am even more against Palestinians who attack Israelis simply for being Jews.
Once again, the Palestinian attacks were the first event. No more Palestinian attacks and no more need for armed settlers and no more need for force to stop attackers.
First, you claim that when armed settlers march into a land you refuse to identify as Palestinian that only Israeli's have the right to arms and that its less of a crime for someone from an illegal settlement to be armed then it is for a Palestinian kid to have a rock.
Second, you refuse to acknowledge that walking fully armed onto someone else's land, in what should be a foreign country is in fact illegal trespassing.
Third, you refuse to acknowledge that walking onto someone else's land uninvited and fully armed is an act of aggression.
Fourth, you claim trespasser's have the right to defend themselves but not those whose land they invade.
Fifth, you call Palestinian children 'mobs of stone throwers' yet call armed Israelis marching on what should be foreign soil, 'civilians'.
Sixth, you repeatedly are incredibly incensed that Palestinians would throw stones yet fully support the killing of a clearly civilian farmer working on his own land.
If there was no occupation this crime wouldn't have happened.
If the IDF protected Palestinian civilians from settler violence this wouldn't have happened.
If Israel respected Palestinians and gave them full human rights this likely wouldn't have happened.
If Israel wasn't colonizing Palestinian land this wouldn't have happened.
This was entirely preventable.
Its sad that Israelis were subject to violence but its much more sad that those same Israelis killed a civilian while trespassing on his land.
And its very sad that you support this kind of violence.
The proof is in the pudding. Your only response to the kids being attacked was to complain that they were in the West Bank.Where did I say I supported what happened?..
As most often happened, the violence started with Palestinians going after people for being Jews in the middle east but your only complaint is that the Jews dare to respond. This pattern goes right back to the start of the British Mandate.
Last I checked, the guard was being investigated for manslaughter which is correct in my mind. When will the PA investigate the people who attacked the kids in the first place?
Absolutely. As soon as Palestinians and their leaders stop violently trying to destroy Israel, peace will be achieved....
This was entirely preventable.....
Still can't admit that the armed Israelis were trespassing on Palestinian lands, can you?As most often happened, the violence started with Palestinians going after people for being Jews in the middle east but your only complaint is that the Jews dare to respond. This pattern goes right back to the start of the British Mandate.
Now, not only won't you say the land is Palestine (which would require admitting that its an illegal occupation) or Israel (which would admit that its apartheid) you're stuck calling it the 'middle east'. Do you not realize how fucked up your position now is?
This happened in Palestine, didn't it?Absolutely. As soon as Palestinians and their leaders stop violently trying to destroy Israel, peace will be achieved.
How do you claim that armed Israelis trespassing on Palestinian land are 'trying to destroy Israel'?
That's totally fucked up, dude.
When? Wasn't in 1919 or 1929 when Palestinian leaders incited riots against ancient Jewish communities. It didn't happen when the UN tried Partitioning the country.This happened in Palestine, didn't it?....
Your heroes in Hamas and much of Fatah are still committed to Israel's destruction and terror rockets are still being fired from Gaza.
1) No such thing as "Palestinians lands" until the Palestinian leadership accept the idea of peace and negotiate. To paraphrase you, show me the borders of Palestine on a map.Still can't admit that the armed Israelis were trespassing on Palestinian lands, can you?...
2) More importantly, it is completely immoral to attack a bunch of kids because they were Jews "trespassing".
So you are saying that until Palestinians are fully subjugated they will live under apartheid rule.1) No such thing as "Palestinians lands" until the Palestinian...
I see.
You're the guy claiming Israel has no borders but amazingly you change your opinion when discussing a future Palestinian state.So you are saying that until Palestinians are fully subjugated they will live under apartheid rule.
I see.
And once again you reject the UN's statements just to justify Palestinian attacks on Jews for daring to be in the region.
Sorry dude, this is about you now:You're the guy claiming ...
As you clearly stated, there is no Palestine.1) No such thing as "Palestinians lands" until the Palestinian...
Only the one state, apartheid Israel.
And you claim it'll be there until Hamas bends over and lubes up, correct?
What exactly do they have to accept up there before you're willing to deign them human rights, for instance?
Right. The West Bank is occupied until the Palestinians stop promoting violence and negotiate a peace deal. Why don't you get?Sorry dude, this is about you now:
As you clearly stated, there is no Palestine....
But of course you want to change the topic from your support for attacks on kids on a nature hike.
Abbas hasn't promoted violence since he's been in power.Right. The West Bank is occupied until the Palestinians stop promoting violence
So why didn't Israel give them back their land?
1st off, you have repeatedly stated you hate Abbas and laud Hamas. More significantly, Fatah continues to celebrate terrorists, pays condolence visits to the families of dead terrorists, name public institutions after dead terrorists and pays salaries to convicted terrorists and their families.Abbas hasn't promoted violence since he's been in power.
So why didn't Israel give them back their land?
Of course there's that little detail that Abbas could have said yes to Olmert's offer or at least made a counter-offer and there would be a Palestinian state right now.
According to the UN, the solution is a NEGOTIATED two state peace. Can't happen when Abbas rejects offers and Hamas refuses to accept negotiations.
Abbas is corrupt and a poor leader.1st off, you have repeatedly stated you hate Abbas and laud Hamas.
Hamas used terrorism but have now stopped and seem to have learned.
Neither are good, but they may be less worse then apartheid Israel.
It can't happen if Israel won't negotiate or wants to use negotiations as they did the Oslo Accords, as a stalling tactics while they slowly colonized the West Bank.According to the UN, the solution is a NEGOTIATED two state peace. Can't happen when Abbas rejects offers and Hamas refuses to accept negotiations.
The settlements are what has killed the two state solution.
Israel holds all the power, they are a nuclear armed state occupying Palestine by force.
Only they can decide when there will be peace and when or if there would be a two state solution.
But Netanyahu already stated, multiple times, that he won't give up any land, so its dead.
Laughable justification of terror from you....
Hamas used terrorism but have now stopped ....
Hamas has committed terror attacks in 2016, 2017, are currently calling for violence and terror rockets are being launched daily from Gaza again. You continual support for a terrorist organization is sickening.
How is that statement 'justification of terror'?Laughable justification of terror from you.
Your hasbara trollishness is out of control.
And once again, Hamas is not the violent one here. Israel has killed 10 times as many people, including 700 children in the last 8 years.
That's way, way more killing from Israel.
You should listen to Israeli soldiers. (since we know you won't listen to Palestinians)
http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/
