LOL. Have you tried and been unsuccessful? I had my seven year old nephew try and he found one without any difficulty.
CBC: Forget the 'slippery slope' — Israel already is an apartheid state
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Great, why don't you link the one he sent.LOL. Have you tried and been unsuccessful? I had my seven year old nephew try and he found one without any difficulty.
Apparently he's better at it then you.
Your intentional idiocy is pathetic.Right, so there are no borders.....
Israel's borders are well defined by their peace deals with Jordan and Egypt. The fact that you are trying to play some stupid game to deny Israel's legitimacy is just another example of your ridiculous hateful bias.
toguy clearly described the legal situation but you refuse to accept facts.
p.s.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@31.9141862,35.4694864,8z
Israel's borders with Egypt and Jordan are well defined. Israel's border with lebanon and Syria is still an armistance line because those countries have refused to make peace. According to the UN, the border between Israel and a future Palestinian state is to be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice line.
But the most ridiculous part of your argument is you are saying a Palestine state is illegitimate.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@31.9141862,35.4694864,8z
Israel's borders with Egypt and Jordan are well defined. Israel's border with lebanon and Syria is still an armistance line because those countries have refused to make peace. According to the UN, the border between Israel and a future Palestinian state is to be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice line.
But the most ridiculous part of your argument is you are saying a Palestine state is illegitimate.
Then why can't you provide a map showing those borders?Your intentional idiocy is pathetic.
Israel's borders are well defined by their peace deals with Jordan and Egypt.
Still no solid lines around the country, eh?p.s.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@31.9141862,35.4694864,8z
Israel's borders with Egypt and Jordan are well defined. Israel's border with lebanon and Syria is still an armistance line because those countries have refused to make peace. According to the UN, the border between Israel and a future Palestinian state is to be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice line.
But the most ridiculous part of your argument is you are saying a Palestine state is illegitimate.
Still no Palestine on those maps.
According to Google, there is no Palestine, which would make it all under apartheid Israel rule.
That's the 'no-state' solution you're backing, and its going to be that way until there are equal rights or a Palestinian state.
Al Jazeera has a good article on how apartheid is applied through colour coded ID's in the land that used to be Palestine.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/...i-id-system-palestinians-171115164848669.html
Not quite yellow patches, yet.
And CBC notes that Netanyahu's corruption scandals may drive him to start another distraction war, this one an alliance with another excellent 'ally', Saudi Arabia. CBC, and others, think Israel is itching for another war with Lebanon. The Saudi's seem to have started it off with the 'resignation' of Lebanon's PM. More stupidity to follow.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/war-middle-east-1.4407876
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Right. At this point Palestine isn't a state. According to the UN, the existence and the borders of Palestine need to be negotiated based on the 1949 armistice lines.Still no solid lines around the country, eh?
Still no Palestine on those maps....
And you are the one backing "no-state". I back two states. That means Hamas and Fatah's armed wing giving up on their goal of Israel's destruction and Israel's right admitting that Jerusalem will be shared and some settlements will not be involved in land swaps (you know, what Abbas rejected in 2008).
p.s. It's amusing that you want to talk about Netanyahu's corruption without discussing the massive corruption in both Hamas and the PA. Just another example where you see blaming "both sides" as meaning you only criticize Israel.
I asked him and he then said "uncle TOguy why cant Mr. Footer use the search function or answer your question about who says there is any dispute about the borders?Great, why don't you link the one he sent.
Apparently he's better at it then you.
Right, its part of apartheid Israel.Right. At this point Palestine isn't a state.
You claim to support the two state solution but have also supported Israeli war crimes of keeping illegally occupied Palestinian lands, which has been the death knell of the two state solution.
Which leaves you backing what you called the 'no-state' solution or apartheid.
Abbas is incredibly corrupt and should have resigned a decade ago.p.s. It's amusing that you want to talk about Netanyahu's corruption without discussing the massive corruption in both Hamas and the PA. Just another example where you see blaming "both sides" as meaning you only criticize Israel.
Hamas its less clear that they are corrupt, though they have other major issues.
Palestinian polling has a significant of people in Gaza saying Hamas is corrupt. But sure, keep with your program and continue defending Hamas.Abbas is incredibly corrupt and should have resigned a decade ago.
Hamas its less clear that they are corrupt, though they have other major issues.
Again, I back peace negotiations. You back Hamas' rejection of peace and the continuation of the status quo....
Which leaves you backing what you called the 'no-state' solution or apartheid.
The two state solution is dead.Again, I back peace negotiations. You back Hamas' rejection of peace and the continuation of the status quo.
Netanyahu stated they won't give any land back and these are plans for the future:
http://mondoweiss.net/2017/11/israeli-minister-settlers/
The question is how long can you continue to support apartheid.
Only as long as you, Hamas, and much of Fatah reject the idea of Israel's existence. I'll stick with what Canada, the UN, EU, US, and even the Arab League and Israel support.The two state solution is dead....
p.s Latest polling has 69% of Palestinians opposed to your non-starter one-state plan.
And yet no comment on Israeli government officials stating that they will massively increase the number of Israelis colonizing what should have been Palestine.Only as long as you, Hamas, and much of Fatah reject the idea of Israel's existence. I'll stick with what Canada, the UN, EU, US, and even the Arab League and Israel support.
p.s Latest polling has 69% of Palestinians opposed to your non-starter one-state plan.
You claim to support the two state solution but really just support ongoing colonization and apartheid.
I have stated repeatedly that I see settlements as a negative and a distraction to the peace process. I don't support them but I realize that some will be included in land swaps (especially as several major settlement blocks and parts of the Old City were Jewish before Jordan ethnically cleansed them after partition).And yet no comment on Israeli government officials stating that they will massively increase the number of Israelis colonizing what should have been Palestine.
You claim to support the two state solution but really just support ongoing colonization and apartheid.
The UN supports a negotiated border based on the 1949 armistice lines. That means that Hamas and Fatah's armed wing have to accept the idea of peace talks and accept the factthat Israel will continue to exist.
But in terms of grey, I see building houses as far less of a crime than intentionally going out to murder civilians like happened yet again this week when a Palestinian ran down a 70 year old, a 35 year old civilian, and then got out of his car and tried to stab more people (I'm sure that your only complaint is he was killed in the act). Houses can be given to the Palestinians or torn down. No one can return terror victims to life.
The hypocrisy of this is amazing.I have stated repeatedly that I see settlements as a negative and a distraction to the peace process. I don't support them but I realize that some will be included in land swaps (especially as several major settlement blocks and parts of the Old City were Jewish before Jordan ethnically cleansed them after partition).
The UN supports a negotiated border based on the 1949 armistice lines. That means that Hamas and Fatah's armed wing have to accept the idea of peace talks and accept the factthat Israel will continue to exist.
But in terms of grey, I see building houses as far less of a crime than intentionally going out to murder civilians like happened yet again this week when a Palestinian ran down a 70 year old, a 35 year old civilian, and then got out of his car and tried to stab more people (I'm sure that your only complaint is he was killed in the act). Houses can be given to the Palestinians or torn down. No one can return terror victims to life.
You claim to support the two state solution but don't see one side continually stealing land from the other as a problem, to the point where your two state solution is impossible. You don't see it a problem when your guy says he won't ever give any land back either.
You also support the 1949 lines and think somehow that Israel can swap an equal amount of desert and keep all the settlements, which kills the possibility of a contiguous Palestinian state.
Your arguments are nonsense.
You're backing apartheid, buddy, that's what you've bought.
Speaking of hypocrisy, do you really think Canada, the UN, the EU are nonsense? They, along with the Arab League and even Abbas accept that land swaps will be part of the deal....
Your arguments are nonsense....
p.s. Olmert offered a plan that was 100% contiguous including a land corridor to Gaza. Abbas rejected it out of hand and Hamas still refuses even the concept of peace.
Glad you mentioned the UN and that you don't think they are nonsense.Speaking of hypocrisy, do you really think Canada, the UN, the EU are nonsense? They, along with the Arab League and even Abbas accept that land swaps will be part of the deal.
They think the occupation is illegal.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/un-pa...to-stop-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestine/561647763. International law is the promise that states make to one another, and to their people, that rights will be respected, protections will be honoured, agreements and obligations will be satisfied, and peace with justice will be pursued. It is a tribute to the international community that it has sustained this vision of international law throughout its supervision of Israel’s occupation of the Palestinian territory. But it is no tribute that – as the occupation deepened, as the occupier’s intentions became crystal clear, and as its defiance grew – the international community recoiled from answering Israel’s splintering of the Palestinian territory and disfiguring of the laws of occupation with the robust tools that international law and diplomacy provide. International law, along with the peoples of Palestine and Israel, have all suffered in the process.
States who administer another territory under international supervision – whether as an occupier or a mandatory power – will cross the red line into illegality if they breach their fundamental obligations as alien rulers. The International Court of Justice in Namibia supports this conclusion. The Special Rapporteur submits that Israel’s role as occupant has crossed this red line. The challenge now facing the international community is to assess this analysis and, if accepted, to devise and employ the appropriate diplomatic and legal steps that, measure by measure, would completely and finally end the occupation. As Amos Schocken, the publisher of Ha’aretz, has written about his own country’s leadership: “…international pressure is precisely the force that will drive them to do the right thing.”
A determination that Israel’s role as occupant is now illegal would serve several significant purposes. First, it would encourage member states to take all reasonable steps to prevent or discourage national institutions, organizations and corporations within their jurisdiction from engaging in activities that would invest in, or sustain, the occupation. Second, it would encourage national and international courts to apply the appropriate laws within their jurisdiction that would prevent or discourage cooperation with entities that invest in, or sustain, the occupation. Third, it would invite the international community to review its various forms of cooperation with the occupying power as long as it continues to administer the occupation unlawfully. Fourth, it would provide a solid precedent for the international community when judging other occupations of long du
Now that you've stated you stand by UN statements, its time to state fully that the occupation is illegal.
