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basketcase

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Netanyahu ....
The entire quote: Netanyahu stated that a Two-State peace is impossible as long as Islamist militias hold sway.
The simple solution is Hamas and Fatah's armed wing decide a two state peace is better than perpetual war.

A major difference; Israel has elections and recent polling has Netanyahu losing power to parties fully supportive of a two state peace. The Palestinians choose not to have elections and even if they did, major factions of both main parties are opposed to a permanent peace.

And again, How does a terror group like Islamic Jihad (or Hamas) spending money to attack Israelis help the Palestinian people in any way?
 

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And as for the settlements, they are all illegal.
Yet you keep claiming that Israel will keep most of them, which is a war crime you are supporting.
The UN, Arab League, and even Abbas have admitted land swaps will be part of the final peace process. But of course you only agree with with the UN if they say something negative about Israel.
 

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The entire quote: Netanyahu stated that a Two-State peace is impossible as long as Islamist militias hold sway.
The simple solution is Hamas and Fatah's armed wing decide a two state peace is better than perpetual war.
No, that's another older quote.
The latest one is this:
sraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has told an audience of Jewish settlers that he has no intention of dismantling Israeli settlements in the West Bank in exchange for peace with the Palestinians.

“We are here to stay, forever,” Netanyahu said Monday night in Barkan, a settlement of about 1,500 people, at an event celebrating the 50th anniversary of Israel’s West Bank presence.

"There will be no more uprooting of settlements in the land of Israel,” he vowed. “We are guarding Samaria against those who want to uproot us."
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/8/29/16220132/netanyahu-settlements-we-will-stay-forever-west-bank

That kills your land swap arguments as well.
If Israel tries to keep all the settlements there isn't enough contiguous land for a Palestinian state left.

You're back to you 'no-state' apartheid solution again.
 

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The UN, Arab League, and even Abbas have admitted land swaps will be part of the final peace process. But of course you only agree with with the UN if they say something negative about Israel.
Too late for that.

The settlements have been ruled illegal previously by the UN, multiple times.
And now the charges are in at the ICC, along with apartheid.

Netanyahu won't give anything up, so you're going to have to let the court settle it.
 

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Too late for that.....
So you think the UN, EU, US, Canada, and the Arab League are wrong? Talk about hubris.

Land swaps will be part of any deal. Abbas has already agreed to the concept. That means major settlement blocks will traded for other land such as a land corridor to Gaza.

p.s. As usual you criticize Israel for something the PA has accepted but refuse to criticize Hamas and the major faction in Fatah who reject permanent peace with Israel in any form.
 

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So you think the UN, EU, US, Canada, and the Arab League are wrong? Talk about hubris.

Land swaps will be part of any deal. Abbas has already agreed to the concept. That means major settlement blocks will traded for other land such as a land corridor to Gaza.

p.s. As usual you criticize Israel for something the PA has accepted but refuse to criticize Hamas and the major faction in Fatah who reject permanent peace with Israel in any form.
See post #43 and Netanyahu's statement.
Until you get the guy with the nuclear bombs to agree, it doesn't matter what the people locked in the world's largest open air prison say.

Meanwhile Israel is trying to shut down the Palestinian free press and has now arrested someone from Amnesty.
 

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Why is it silly to destroy a tunnel built by terrorists crossing from Palestinian controlled territory to beside an Israeli civilian center?
NB is suggesting to leave the tunnel intact as a trap or bait to catch any accomplices on the Israeli side. Of course, any terrorists travelling through to the other side will be caught or killed too.
 

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That too, but if there are accomplices on the Israeli side, they would not be wearing uniforms. Anyways, those tunnel borers were asking for it.
I'm sure the accomplices wouldn't want to be seen wearing anything other than my smart and fashionable shirts, available at the link posted above
 

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Only if you change your handle to Yasser
Nah, you can use Mandela for me, if you want a new one.

I'm trying to find more about that article posted on maan.
If the EU calls Israel apartheid, as they reported, that's a major statement.
 

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NB is suggesting to leave the tunnel intact as a trap or bait to catch any accomplices on the Israeli side. Of course, any terrorists travelling through to the other side will be caught or killed too.
He'd complain about them being arrested and charged.

I find it really warped when he complains about Israel's past actions trying to stop Hamas in Gaza then suggests with a straight face that the solution is for Israel to invade Gaza and arrest Hamas.
 

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See post #43 and Netanyahu's statement.
Until you get the guy with the nuclear bombs to agree, it doesn't matter what the people locked in the world's largest open air prison say.

Meanwhile Israel is trying to shut down the Palestinian free press and has now arrested someone from Amnesty.
Until the Palestinian leaders who refuse to accept Israel's existence accept peace, their can be no peace. The outline of the deal is known to the UN and the world (Olmert's offer was better for the Palestinians than the Arab League plan BTW). All the we are waiting for is a Palestinian leader willing to publicly admit Israel won't be destroyed.

p.s Palestinian Free Press? You mean the guys that both Hamas and the PA lock up and torture for reporting negatively or making a joke about the leadership?
 

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Until the Palestinian leaders who refuse to accept Israel's existence accept peace, their can be no peace.
They did that years ago.
There will only be peace if the side with the nuclear weapons decides there will be peace or if international pressure through sanctions against apartheid force Israel to change.
http://www.palestinechronicle.com/e...nt-activity-declares-israel-apartheid-regime/

Israel is still trying to colonize Palestine.
The decision by the Civil Administration's High Planning Committee -- which oversees construction of West Bank Jewish settlements -- came just hours after the European Union demanded Israel reconsider plans for nearly 1,300 settler homes in the West Bank announced just a day earlier, saying they were illegal under international law and undermined the prospects for peace.
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/isra...srael-reconsider-west-bank-settler-homes-plan

Sounds like the EU will be the first major declaration that Israel is apartheid.
Then it will be everyone's moral duty to boycott Israel.
As it should be right now.
 

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They did that years ago.....
Really? When did the Palestinian leadership (especially Hamas) agree that Israel has a right to exist?

Considering Hamas' new PC charter still says they will accept nothing less that Israel' destruction shows you are full of shit.
 
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