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essguy_

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Ever been to a gun show in Canada?

Pretty much the same thing can happen. Where's the manufactured outrage now?
You have to have a valid PAL to buy a rifle in Canada. NO exceptions. To transfer a restricted weapon there are even more hurdles. BTW - Do you have your PAL? If so, then you've already had more safety education than many, many gun owners in the U.S.
 

cunning linguist

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You have to have a valid PAL to buy a rifle in Canada. NO exceptions. To transfer a restricted weapon there are even more hurdles. BTW - Do you have your PAL? If so, then you've already had more safety education than many, many gun owners in the U.S.
And when I sell privately, there is no requirement for me to report the sale of a non-restricted firearm to the CFC or CFO. Actually, there isn't even a legal requirement to actually see and verify the validity of a PAL. Where's all the alleged "blood in the streets"?

It's as much of a "loophole" as an underage kid not getting carded for booze or liquor because they look old enough, as in, still illegal if either party is caught.
 

essguy_

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And when I sell privately, there is no requirement for me to report the sale of a non-restricted firearm to the CFC or CFO. Actually, there isn't even a legal requirement to actually see and verify the validity of a PAL. Where's all the alleged "blood in the streets"?

It's as much of a "loophole" as an underage kid not getting carded for booze or liquor because they look old enough, as in, still illegal if either party is caught.
No - you said at a Canadian gun show. Have you ever really been to one? If so, then you wouldn't be spouting nonsense about not checking for a valid PAL. Oh, and there IS a legal requirement to check for a valid PAL even if you sell a gun in your garage. You don't know what you're talking about.
 

cunning linguist

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No - you said at a Canadian gun show. Have you ever really been to one? If so, then you wouldn't be spouting nonsense about not checking for a valid PAL.
Yeah, I go to Canadian gun shows all the time and while looking at a PAL is best practice, guess what? Still not absolutely required, for instance, if I run into an active member from my gun club who wants to buy an old deer rifle I'm selling.
 

essguy_

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Yeah, I go to Canadian gun shows all the time and while looking at a PAL is best practice, guess what? Still not absolutely required, for instance, if I run into an active member from my gun club who wants to buy an old deer rifle I'm selling.
No you're wrong and you keep digging. It is an ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT to check for a valid PAL with any sale of a rifle in Canada. For restricted weapons, there are even more requirements. If, as you allege, you've seen people sell guns at a Canadian Gun show without checking for a PAL, then you've witnessed an illegal sale. But I don't believe you've ever seen it. I haven't.
 

cunning linguist

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No you're wrong and you keep digging. It is an ABSOLUTE REQUIREMENT to check for a valid PAL with any sale of a rifle in Canada. For restricted weapons, there are even more requirements. If, as you allege, you've seen people sell guns at a Canadian Gun show without checking for a PAL, then you've witnessed an illegal sale. But I don't believe you've ever seen it. I haven't.
If both parties are licensed to possess and acquire non-restricted firearms in Canada, the sale is valid, period. If one or both isn't, it's illegal, simple. But keep conjuring the boogeyman if that makes you feel any better.
 

essguy_

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If both parties are licensed to possess and acquire firearms in Canada, the sale is valid, period. If one or both isn't it's illegal, simple. But keep conjuring the boogeyman if that makes you feel any better.
Man are you fucking clueless. How do you know that both parties are licensed to possess? By confirming that the buyer has a valid PAL. Period. Keep digging though and maybe somebody else will humour your ignorance.
 

cunning linguist

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Man are you fucking clueless. How do you know that both parties are licensed to possess? By confirming that the buyer has a valid PAL. Period. Keep digging though and maybe somebody else will humour your ignorance.
God forbid we respect due process and investigators have to do some...gasp...actual investigation.
 

basketcase

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Labeling it "Gun Show Loophole" is incorrect. You do not have to attend a gun show to make a private purchase. The uninformed here think that if you make a purchase at a gun show, you are somehow legally circumventing a process.
I agree and that makes it worse. If it was only at gun shows it would be much easier to control. Have a FFL registry at the event and all backgrounds could easily be checked if needed. Sadly no gun show is needed. In many states you can walk down the street, see a gun you like and offer cash on the spot. At least many online gun sellers now require you to ship the gun to a licensed dealer who will verify everything needed
 

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With a private sale, you would need to advertise it, arrange a place to meet, etc. If you're a buyer, you might have to go to several different addresses before you find what you want. ...
Internet. There are some sites out there that work essentially like craigslist.
 

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So I checked out the RCMP application form to purchase a firearm in Canada.

If you are currently married (or in a common law relationship), your conjugal partner has to sign his or her approval....
Some stats show a very strong correlation between mass shooters and spousal abusers. Makes sense for Canada to do so.

In some states that have laws that prevent anyone guilty of domestic violence from owning guns but even they have a loophole that applies if the victim was a spouse or common law but not for girlfriend/boyfriend.
 

The LoLRus

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Save of course being part of a civil society!
If Apple gave the FBI the keys to their locks, the US government would abuse that like there's no tomorrow.

You know its true.

Its actually nice to hear someone is standing up to America, and its even nicer to hear that its pissing off the American government!!!
 

basketcase

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Goes to show that gun control is a discriminatory practice.
Actually shows the 2nd amendment is subject to racism. The only gun control arguments in the US for the past few decades have been to stop blacks owning back then and to stop Muslims now. Seems the NRA is willing to make exceptions.
 
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