Yes I believe it because that's what the data shows... and it's genetic - the result of evolution.
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This is all emotional garbage. Who you personally know and what Nazis did with the information has no relevance. You're obviously unfamiliar with this area of research and the enormous body of data gathered over the past 100 years.
Your position amounts to putting your thumbs in your ears and screaming "racist" because you don't like to hear the truth. Ignorance is bliss.
LOL yes, it's Jewish family and community that allows them as 1% of the population to run media, politics, and become incredible lawyers, doctors, accountants. No genetic component at all. LOL Keep dreaming.
You keep trying but failing to muddy the waters by mentioning Nazis, conspiracies theories, Far Right movements, and so on. None of those have anything to do with the science.
You may disagree with the reasons for the restrictions. I simply laid out the reasons for you and others to correct the narrative that restrictions were placed because white americans believed themselves superior - that was not the case. It was the opposite. The issue at that time was not about "bettering genetic stock" through immigration. The debate was about maintaining the demographic representation of the people that founded the nation, and their unique culture. This is also why they had restrictions on peoples from eastern, southern, and central Europe.
At the time when ocean crossing was slow, dangerous and expensive, the 'whites' of America did indeed think they were protecting their superior 'race', and their rhetoric says exactly that. The result would have been the same had they been correct: consigning them like zoo specimens to a restricted, isolated inferior status, whether or not other 'races' in the wider world were genetically superior.
And you still owe us the evidence for that unfounded assertion.
I have no idea where you came to that conclusion, as the wiki page you posted and everything else presented here has shown that there isn't evidence of genetic 'races' of humans and most certainly no studies concluding that any 'race' would be smarter then any other. You appear to be confusing cultural bias in IQ tests with claims of racial superiority, and the science doesn't support this claim.
Once your claims lose their scientific basis they tread into the territory of eugenics and racism.
That's because you veered away from the science into right wing, white nationalist, claims.
You mean the native population?
And what has that to do with science?
Your science is non existent. A few outlier samplings - which have been criticized. And an overall position in the IQ testing profession that your thesis is unproven. There is absolutely nothing you can take to the bank there.
And yes, Jewish environment encourages academic achievement and that means a disproportionate % of Jews enter the professions. They also figure largely in the movie and show biz industries, but there's a reason for that which is well known. In the early 1900's, Jews were blocked out of most traditional businesses by bigotry. As a result, they went large into newly developing businesses, like movies and got in on the ground floor. Any history of Hollywood discusses this.
Jews do not dominate politics - except in your own fantasy world, where I suspect you believe they pull all the strings behind the scenes.
And the Far Right / conspiracy theories are pretty apt.
You still haven't proved it's the "truth", Smallcock.
Sounds like you're putting your own hands over your dick and screaming "libtard" when there is no proven science to back you up.
There is no cultural bias in IQ tests. A black kid in a white adoptive household shares the same culture that a white american kid would have.
Frank you've relieved in this thread that you don't even understand basic evolutionary theory by using terms like "more evolved". You're the last person to be making further claims to knowledge in this area.
Your denial of what everybody in IQ research knows borders on schizophrenic.
A "few outlier samplings"? The IQ gap has a scientific mainstay for over 100 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_gap_in_the_United_States
You keep commenting on things you either don't know anything about or don't understand.
Of course she does, if there's such a thing as white American culture. And she and her pale adoptive siblings would share a different version of it than the all-white non-observant jewish family next door. But that's just one case.
Quibbles aside, where have you cited the studies of such adopted kids that prove your assertion? Or quoted further scholarship that relies on that fact, which you say is established?
Where is the science that shows through unbiased culture-free testing that certain genetically defined races have characteristically greater IQs than others?
We'll leave the matter of white American mono-culture for another day, but surely the recent election results and aftermath would have us suspecting there may be no such thing.
How would you like for me to "prove" it's truth for you? Would you like for me to begin listing study after study? I can do that if you'd like.
But you ought to familiarize yourself with the research first - instead of yelling "racist" when something offends your sensibilities - because arguing with somebody that only has a superficial understanding of the science is a colossal waste of time.
Somebody who claims there is no cultural bias in IQ tests shows a total lack of understandings of the science.
Read this:
https://www.theatlantic.com/nationa...ng-the-connection-between-race-and-iq/275876/
That study found that high SES kids saw an IQ boost of 12-16 points.
That's cultural bias, evidencing itself within just socioeconomic differences.
Unfortunately that article is another example of an academic scholar abused for writing about what data tells us.
The study you cite says that IQ variations explained by genes varies depending on SES. This has nothing to do with your cultural bias argument.
Try reading the full article and then following the link to the full study.
The study used identical twins raised in different socioeconomic conditions to point out that even socioeconomic conditions can have a massive effect on IQ tests.
They used twins to prove that genetic variation couldn't have been responsible for those IQ test differences.
You failed to read and comprehend.
I think you're misrepresenting that Wiki entry. It's about academic achievement, not innate intelligence, or IQ. Even on that subject, far from establishing racial differences, the article sates "…the category of African immigrant population (excluding Haitians and other foreign-born blacks born outside of Africa) has the highest educational attainment of any group in the United States." clearing placing the same 'race' at the top and the bottom of the range.
The entry dismisses the topic of IQ in a couple of sentences: "Hernstein and Murray claimed in the book The Bell Curve [1994] creating much controversy, that genetic variation in average levels of intelligence (IQ) may explain some portion of the racial disparities in achievement. Other researchers have argued that there is no significant difference in inherent cognitive ability between different races that could help to explain the achievement gap, and that environment is at the root of the issue." That makes it pretty clear your IQ gap is not settled science, (and by footnote count the doubters win).
Nowhere did I see any support in your cited article for your assertion that "…The IQ gap has [been] a scientific mainstay for over 100 years". I'd appreciate it if you would direct me to it.
Smallcock, I fwd-ed the Wiki page to my sister, who has grad degrees in anthropology and adult literacy and who is a college professor and author of numerous education textbooks.
Her response was: "Yeah. Every so often there are studies which correlate IQ to "race". They vary from study to study. No one in the teaching field considers them particularly important, relevant or useful."
In other words, "big deal".
As I said above, no one in the legal, judicial or social work fields links "race" to IQ. This issue is really just important to righties who want to ground their abhorrent political views on supposed "science".
Her response was: "Yeah. Every so often there are studies which correlate IQ to "race". They vary from study to study. No one in the teaching field considers them particularly important, relevant or useful."
In other words, "big deal".
As I said above, no one in the legal, judicial or social work fields links "race" to IQ. This issue is really just important to righties who want to ground their abhorrent political views on supposed "science".
Yes, the link I provided was academic achievement. The same is true for IQ (they're derivatives of each other): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intelligence
The other researchers who said there is no "significant difference" didn't state there isn't a difference. That's called a PC response They also have failed to back up their theory that environment is the root of the issue. Likewise, you and your ilk have failed to explain why we can expect all peoples to perform identically.
As for the IQ gap - it's existed since the first IQ tests administered among the races.
