Mass Shooting in Vegas
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:nod:Then why has the US had to amend it 27 times?
It’s still mostly genius, but the US Constitution started off a little too ‘pro-slavery’ for our times. Times change and nations that adapt, survive.
It’s why the founding fathers included Article 5
Maybe it is time for the 28th amendment to make it illegal to own anything else than shotguns.:nod:
It’s still mostly genius, but the US Constitution started off a little too ‘pro-slavery’ for our times. Times change and nations that adapt, survive.
It’s why the founding fathers included Article 5
There’s a pretty wide gap between no personal firearms at-all and the current model. It appears that many other countries found an acceptable balance that allows for both public safety and security.Trump is a brutal racist and dictator who now runs the US government, and you people want ONLY Trump and his government to own firearms? Are you NUTS????
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Weapons should be pointed downrange. If your population is making choices that require you to protect yourself from one another and their elected officials, it’s time to make some changes.
What exactly is a glock or AR going to do against the military?Trump is a brutal racist and dictator who now runs the US government, and you people want ONLY Trump and his government to own firearms? Are you NUTS????
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Gun threads are always entertaining. If there's one constant.... it always involves the US. And bringing up nukes and wars, almost always..... the US again.Trump's gonna nuke N.Korea and they'll nuke the U.S. back and render any and all guns useless.
Great thread though.
There is rarely any war or violence, where the US doesn't somehow get involved. They love it. Gotta show that macho, guns-a-blazing, my battleship is better than your battleship attitude to the world.
800 bases in over 70 countries.Gun threads are always entertaining. If there's one constant.... it always involves the US. And bringing up nukes and wars, almost always..... the US again.
There is rarely any war or violence, where the US doesn't somehow get involved. They love it. Gotta show that macho, guns-a-blazing, my battleship is better than your battleship attitude to the world.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321
The US military would be useless in guerrilla warfare against its armed citizens.What exactly is a glock or AR going to do against the military?
Such is the burden of being the world's leader.800 bases in over 70 countries.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321
Yep,... and plenty of examples as to why.The US military would be useless in guerrilla warfare against its armed citizens.
If a majority of the country was to become a guerilla force against the country,...this would not be another Detroit,... were the "target" was easy to identify.
And this is why some still stand by their guns,... right or wrong.
Do you really think that :...
If a majority of the country was to become a guerilla force....
a) the US will actually have a despotic tyrant the people need to fight or;
b) that the majority of people would go to war to prevent reasonable gun laws?
NOPE,... never posted any of that.Do you really think that :
a) the US will actually have a despotic tyrant the people need to fight or;
b) that the majority of people would go to war to prevent reasonable gun laws?
But since you brought this up,... I'm guessing you are going to tell us all now what you think,... aren't you basketcase..
The intelligence agencies, on the other hand, would be highly effectiveThe US military would be useless in guerrilla warfare against its armed citizens.
As if citizens' pistols and rifles will do anything against trained soldiers, advanced weapons, tanks, jets bombing cities etc..... lol.
A corrupt US government doesn't even have to instruct their soldiers to organize and raid a town. All they have to do is fly some jets overhead and unleash bombs or chemical weapons. That would be enough to make any remaining citizens surrender. Or take over the power plants and water treatment plants and make the people suffer with no working utilities.
All you gun lovers are overrating your "everyday man" shooting skills.
A corrupt US government doesn't even have to instruct their soldiers to organize and raid a town. All they have to do is fly some jets overhead and unleash bombs or chemical weapons. That would be enough to make any remaining citizens surrender. Or take over the power plants and water treatment plants and make the people suffer with no working utilities.
All you gun lovers are overrating your "everyday man" shooting skills.
In fact citizens of every country can defeat the armed forces of their own country without arms. The armed forces are drawn from the population and will only act against the people to the extent that the armed forces are convinced of the justness of the action.As if citizens' pistols and rifles will do anything against trained soldiers, advanced weapons, tanks, jets bombing cities etc..... lol.
A corrupt US government doesn't even have to instruct their soldiers to organize and raid a town. All they have to do is fly some jets overhead and unleash bombs or chemical weapons. That would be enough to make any remaining citizens surrender. Or take over the power plants and water treatment plants and make the people suffer with no working utilities.
All you gun lovers are overrating your "everyday man" shooting skills.
As they say, the army and the people are one.
The soviet people did not have any gun rights and yet when the army there was ordered to fire on the people protesting in Red Square the military was defeated and the government fell.
How? Because the young Russians ordered to shoot the old women who looked very much like their own grandmothers couldn't do it, said "fuck that order", and joined the protesters.
In fact had the protesters been armed it would have likely been easier for the army to crush the revolt.
When the government orders soldiers to go kill their own people, it's not uncommon for the soldiers to revolt against the government.
I have a hard time believing the US Air Force would EVER obey an order to bomb American cities. Instead it would turn on the government that gave the order.
I have a hard time believing the US military would ever turn on it's own people too.In fact citizens of every country can defeat the armed forces of their own country without arms. The armed forces are drawn from the population and will only act against the people to the extent that the armed forces are convinced of the justness of the action.
As they say, the army and the people are one.
The soviet people did not have any gun rights and yet when the army there was ordered to fire on the people protesting in Red Square the military was defeated and the government fell.
How? Because the young Russians ordered to shoot the old women who looked very much like their own grandmothers couldn't do it, said "fuck that order", and joined the protesters.
In fact had the protesters been armed it would have likely been easier for the army to crush the revolt.
When the government orders soldiers to go kill their own people, it's not uncommon for the soldiers to revolt against the government.
I have a hard time believing the US Air Force would EVER obey an order to bomb American cities. Instead it would turn on the government that gave the order.
That's why when a gun nut says they arm themselves to protect against oppressive US soldiers wanting to raid their homes, it is a silly and (to me) something that won't happen. It's just a bullet point to pad their list to justify having guns.
How does that nut in North Korea keep his people in check so successfully using the military?I have a hard time believing the US military would ever turn on it's own people too.
That's why when a gun nut says they arm themselves to protect against oppressive US soldiers wanting to raid their homes, it is a silly and (to me) something that won't happen. It's just a bullet point to pad their list to justify having guns.
North Korea has a history of oppressive governments, brainwashing, and people who would have no chance against the government anyway. The armies are so big, families at home would have no chance even if they all had guns.How does that nut in North Korea keep his people in check so successfully using the military?
The US is similar to other western countries who strive for riches. People and the gov care more about making cash. People in the US, Canada, UK etc.... don't have governments itching to take over their people with battalions of soldiers hidden in fields. Even in first world countries with low gun ownership (the US the extreme opposite end), you still don't see governments trying to take over.
