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Heather Heyer was killed yesterday by a terrorist

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She's not a hero, she's idiot looking for a fight with even bigger idiots and found it, dying.

People should have just let the police handle the White Supremists morons.
Police didn't do much. That's because the Nazis showed up carrying bats, shields and guns and the cops copped out.
 

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Because Neo-nazi's in the US are not in power like the dictatorship government is in Venezuela. White supremacists are basically just a bunch of fucking idiots running around in white hoodies, and wield very little power (if any)
I can think of a few neo Nazis who are in the White House today in America.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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I can think of a few neo Nazis who are in the White House today in America
Keep talking like that and you're virtually guaranteed to give Trump a 2nd term.

You didnt learn from the first time, did you?! :doh:
 

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Keep talking like that and you're virtually guaranteed to give Trump a 2nd term.

You didnt learn from the first time, did you?! :doh:
The racism is rooted as much in poverty and the opiod crisis as anything. When people don't have hope they will turn to this kind of thing as an answer. The US gov't has utterly and purposely failed a swath of the population.

And this is the backlash.
 

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The racism is rooted as much in poverty and the opiod crisis as anything. When people don't have hope they will turn to this kind of thing as an answer. The US gov't has utterly and purposely failed a swath of the population.

And this is the backlash.
"The angry young white male". Their well paying factory jobs are gone. They can't compete for university admissions against Asians, females and affirmative action blacks and Latinos. Quotas restrict their upward mobility in the workplace.

Something needs to be done to ease the fears and concerns pf these young males. Why is this happening? What is causing it? How do we fix it? Demonizing them is not the answer.
 

james t kirk

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I don't think this guy was a terrorist.

I think he's a piece of shit and I hope he rots in jail for the rest of his life. But a terrorist? I don't think his aim was to induce terror in the populace. He's a simple minded fool who just wanted to kill people who were not racist pricks like him.

Watching the news yesterday at what was happening in Virginia and the absolute fucking CHAOS that has become the United States of America reminds me yet again how lucky I am to live in Canada. It's tragic what has become of the United States (or maybe it was always like this and it was simply being held together by the minority of people, the thinkers, the so called "elites" who kept poking their fingers into the cracks of the dikes until there just were not enough fingers left to stem the tide and now they are swamped.

Sad for the USA
 

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Police didn't do much. That's because the Nazis showed up carrying bats, shields and guns and the cops copped out.
Oh you mean the Nazis smashing windows on cars with base ball bats and pipes,...those Nazi's.
 

Phil C. McNasty

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As much as I DESPISE neo-nazi's (and I'm Dutch, so trust me I have every reason to after WW2), these are the facts:

1. The Neo-nazi rally which was planned ahead of time had received a permit from the city to hold their event
2. The anti-fascists left-wingers who showed up did NOT have a permit to hold their rally.
3. Its pretty clear the Lefties (who had no right to hold their own rally there) came to cause trouble, and there's good indications they started the violence.
4. As much as you can hate Nazi's, they have every right to have their own opinion and hold their rallies in a democratic country. As uncomfortable as that is for most people, thats a cold hard fact!!

So really, who's at fault in all this?? Who started all the trouble??



EDIT: slight correction, a judge ordered that the rally could go ahead.

From wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Unite_the_Right_rally

Permit and court cases

Kessler, the organizer of the "Unite the Right" rally, applied for a permit from the City of Charlottesville to hold the event at Emancipation Park. The week before the event, the Charlottesville government—including Mayor Michael Signer, city council, City Manager Maurice Jones, and Police Chief Al Thomas— said they would approve the permit only if the event was moved to the larger McIntire Park. The city's leaders cited safety concerns and logistical issues associated with holding the event at Emancipation Park, adjacent to the densely populated Downtown Mall. Kessler refused to agree to relocate the rally, and the City relocated the rally anyway, a decision praised by the Downtown Business Association of Charlottesville.

Kessler, supported by the Rutherford Institute and ACLU, sued the City of Charlottesville and Jones on First Amendment grounds in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Virginia. On the evening of August 11, the night before the rally, Judge Glen E. Conrad granted an emergency injunction declaring the Unite the Right rally could go forward. Conrad granted the injunction for the rally due to several factors; Emancipation Park was the location for the statue of Robert Lee that was planned to be taken down and that the rally was partially for, that resources would be needed at both parks for both the rally and the counterprotestors, and that the move to McIntire Park was due to the viewpoints of the organizer and not the safety of the public
The court's decision was praised by the ACLU
 

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It's because Stoogie is a racist bigoted hate filled whitephobic Jihadi.
Pretty much the accepted description for fuji,...
 

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Also, let's not forget the 2 Canadians killed by terrorists in Burkina Faso yesterday.

Condolences to their families and friends.
 

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The racism is rooted as much in poverty and the opiod crisis as anything. When people don't have hope they will turn to this kind of thing as an answer. The US gov't has utterly and purposely failed a swath of the population.

And this is the backlash.
No doubt some truth on that but the Trumpholes still need to be condemned for that racism.
 

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I don't think this guy was a terrorist.

I think he's a piece of shit and I hope he rots in jail for the rest of his life. But a terrorist? I don't think his aim was to induce terror in the populace. He's a simple minded fool who just wanted to kill people who were not racist pricks like him.

Watching the news yesterday at what was happening in Virginia and the absolute fucking CHAOS that has become the United States of America reminds me yet again how lucky I am to live in Canada. It's tragic what has become of the United States (or maybe it was always like this and it was simply being held together by the minority of people, the thinkers, the so called "elites" who kept poking their fingers into the cracks of the dikes until there just were not enough fingers left to stem the tide and now they are swamped.

Sad for the USA
If a Muslim did exactly the same for the same reason you would call them a terrorist.
 

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The racism is rooted as much in poverty and the opiod crisis as anything. When people don't have hope they will turn to this kind of thing as an answer. The US gov't has utterly and purposely failed a swath of the population.

And this is the backlash.
In the past when non-white immigrants arrived in the USA, they were virtually penniless, but were willing to start at the bottom, work at minimum wages, put themselves through school and gradually move up the ladder. Many of them started their own businesses and made sure that their children had the best of education. There is a certain amount that the Government can do, but they cannot just say ohh, the coal industry is dying or there is a huge surplus worlwide, so the demand is not there, but we should invest in it. How can you regenerate that industry? The people should readjust their lives to gain other skills, and not just run to join an extremist organisation that promises them hope, and try to victimise the visible minorities. Unfortunately, this is more likely to what is occurring in the USA.
 

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I can think of a few neo Nazis who are in the White House today in America.
And the funniest part, one of them looks like Elton John's slovenly younger brother. Does Steve Bannon skip and jump and have buttered scones with tea?
 

Phil C. McNasty

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The racism is rooted as much in poverty and the opiod crisis as anything
Maybe we can solve the problem by sending a very large shipment of free Fentanyl to Charlottesville.

Extra strength 150mg pills. Problem solved
 
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