Yeah because White, Asian, Indian, Native and Latin men have not and do not dress in that manner. ��
"You people"
Wow.
Does the 'No Black Gentleman' policy make you rethink visiting a SP?
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"You people"
Wow.
"you people" LOL
The more things change, the more they stay the same...but racism is dead, yes.
"You people"...took the words right out of my mouth. :clap2::clap2::clap2:
It saddens me knowing some adults with at least half a brain can speak in such a way and think it's justified. I could go on about this, but I've done so in the past already on here.
All ladies are entitled to say yay or nay for any reason IMO, so long as prejudices such as racism don't come into play, and unfortunately...it happens.
I agree. But I didn't start this thread to continue the debate. I opened it to gauge whether 'non-brothers' avoided ladies based on the stereotypes associated with the speculated reasons. Apparently, they don't."you people" LOL
The more things change, the more they stay the same...but racism is dead, yes.
On the contrary some guys may be drawn to female sexworkers with this policy!! Racist customers would welcome the fact that the prostitutes that they see refuse to see customers that they despise. Part of the sex fantasy is for the provider to make the customer feel exclusive, special and privileged which may likely include or exclude race for some.
I was talking to a very nice, sweet-faced dancer at the BR recently, and she dropped the N word quite casually in conversation, "...I won't even ask them for dances. They're the worst, all the girls will tell you that. They don't respect women." I was a little shocked at how blunt her prejudice was, but it did seem conditioned by experience.
I lost interest in dealing with her after hearing that.
I lost interest in dealing with her after hearing that.
I doubt it. I don't believe anybody who hold so strongly to such absolutes when dealing with human beings. We are all so different how can any sane person lump everybody together based on race? It doesn't make any sense. And people will come on here and talk about percentages and ratio's, but it's all justification for stereotyping based on invalid fact. I am not a sex worker, but I think its reasonable to assume that most negative experiences would be from the ethnic group that a lady see's the most. That's not anybody of colour in Canada. The truth is, exluding whites would cripple business.
Yep, it's the same way with the porn people.
I'm like "meh, whatever" to all this shyte. Plenty other women around.
My take on this is that it's the ladies' own choice. I've known some girls that have found some black males too aggressive, or in some cases they feel that as a demographic black males are too well endowed and the intercourse is uncomfortable for them.
On the surface, this is stereotyping and systemic racism -- but obviously this is not a normal industry. The hobby lands somewhere between dating and a home business. But, for the SP who they will see can be a deeply personal thing. It's not as if they're running a restaurant that won't serve black men and would be subject to human rights laws...some women won't date a black man for the reasons stated above, personal choice should still be protected, even if you don't agree.
I can't applaud that some SPs decide to limit their clients by excluding a particular demographic, but at least they;
a) Care enough about themselves that they won't see a client that they won't enjoy the experience of seeing
b) Are successful enough at what they do that they can afford to not see a client and forego that revenue
On the surface, this is stereotyping and systemic racism -- but obviously this is not a normal industry. The hobby lands somewhere between dating and a home business. But, for the SP who they will see can be a deeply personal thing. It's not as if they're running a restaurant that won't serve black men and would be subject to human rights laws...some women won't date a black man for the reasons stated above, personal choice should still be protected, even if you don't agree.
I can't applaud that some SPs decide to limit their clients by excluding a particular demographic, but at least they;
a) Care enough about themselves that they won't see a client that they won't enjoy the experience of seeing
b) Are successful enough at what they do that they can afford to not see a client and forego that revenue
I would be reluctant to book with an SP who does ban all Black clients. "No thugs"? Sure. "No clients under 30"? Understandable. "No clients who have lived in Canada for fewer than x years"? Getting a little harsh, but alright. "No penises that exceed y units of volume"? 100% reasonable. But banning all men of an entire race is just ridiculous. If you have a problem with some characteristic that might be associated men of a certain race, why not name that instead? Make it clear that you reserve the right to refuse service if the client has that characteristic. Yeah, it's all tougher to prove than "darn, I see a Black person when I look through the peephole," but I don't believe the ease of that makes it right. Besides, the probability that an SP would ban all Black men but would be willing to genuinely forgive other minority men for their negative stereotypes has got to be pretty close to zero. With all of that said, this is mainly an issue on BP, and BP is a joke... so there's that.
Actually, I feel the same way about clients with disabilities. I don't have any obvious disabilities myself, but I wouldn't book with an SP who expressly doesn't see clients who do have one or more disabilities. I mean, as an escort, you're essentially being paid to put the client's needs ahead of your own (within reason) temporarily. If you can't even see a client with a disability (one that doesn't make him threatening), I don't have much of a choice but to assume that you do not have the desired level of respect for the fact that clients who are seeking your help come from all walks of life and differ in their abilities. If that doesn't matter to an SP—and frankly, there are some to whom that doesn't seem to matter enough for me—I wouldn't consider seeing her.
I didn't vote for any of the options because none of them accurately describe how I feel. I'd rethink, then I may or may not book depending on context/special circumstances.
Actually, I feel the same way about clients with disabilities. I don't have any obvious disabilities myself, but I wouldn't book with an SP who expressly doesn't see clients who do have one or more disabilities. I mean, as an escort, you're essentially being paid to put the client's needs ahead of your own (within reason) temporarily. If you can't even see a client with a disability (one that doesn't make him threatening), I don't have much of a choice but to assume that you do not have the desired level of respect for the fact that clients who are seeking your help come from all walks of life and differ in their abilities. If that doesn't matter to an SP—and frankly, there are some to whom that doesn't seem to matter enough for me—I wouldn't consider seeing her.
I didn't vote for any of the options because none of them accurately describe how I feel. I'd rethink, then I may or may not book depending on context/special circumstances.
I didn't read the 3 pages but if i can add my opinion...
I couldn't care less if she see black clients or not, as i am not black. Does not change a single thing for me.
Every SPs see the clients they want to see. I sometimes see SPs saying they want nobody under 40 (i an in my early 30s) so in those cases am i disapointed if she look my type? Yes. But i respect her choice.
I seen an add recently saying "business men only". Even tough this could be "fake out" , and it may be just a way of trying to gather to richer guys and get huge tips or whatever, i would not go out of my way and who i am to see this person. She is beautifull but there is many other beautifull providers. I respect her decision and cross her of my list.
So if an SP does not want to see black clients, no matter the reason, i respect that as well.
In 2017 people cry for racism everywhere to a point its getting so annoying ... I hate the tendancy of social justice warriors and the "politicaly correct"
In any case remember the golden rule, an SP can decide to refuse ANY CLIENT she want, be it because he is from a different color, he is too old, he is too young or he is too fat.
I couldn't care less if she see black clients or not, as i am not black. Does not change a single thing for me.
Every SPs see the clients they want to see. I sometimes see SPs saying they want nobody under 40 (i an in my early 30s) so in those cases am i disapointed if she look my type? Yes. But i respect her choice.
I seen an add recently saying "business men only". Even tough this could be "fake out" , and it may be just a way of trying to gather to richer guys and get huge tips or whatever, i would not go out of my way and who i am to see this person. She is beautifull but there is many other beautifull providers. I respect her decision and cross her of my list.
So if an SP does not want to see black clients, no matter the reason, i respect that as well.
In 2017 people cry for racism everywhere to a point its getting so annoying ... I hate the tendancy of social justice warriors and the "politicaly correct"
In any case remember the golden rule, an SP can decide to refuse ANY CLIENT she want, be it because he is from a different color, he is too old, he is too young or he is too fat.
There's a local lady who prefers not to see guys over 55. Too bad--she seems just my type, but at 62 I think I'm pushing my luck to try to see her. I'll just pass her by and give other ladies my business, I guess.
As an older white man, it doesn't happen to me often but I can see how it would suck for black guys--they see it an awful lot more than I do.
As an older white man, it doesn't happen to me often but I can see how it would suck for black guys--they see it an awful lot more than I do.
I say this with the upmost respect.. It is a business. Regardless to you gents who think its just "escorting" or "prostitution" . Like any business there is good and bad clients. Every lady will tell you that. However from my personal experiences which I have stated before on this board I do not see black gents under 40. However I do not state this on my ad because then I still get young black men contacting me and I am trying to avoid the younger black crowd. However I have no problems with above forty. My experiences with black gents 40-50 have been that they are more respectable, don't haggle rates and tend to be less aggressive. The younger generation ages 19-30 are aggressive, try to negotiate rates/services, are rude, and just don't have any respect during the session. I once gave a guy his money back because he was just plain rude and super aggressive and I am a small girl so I was uncomfortable. I handed his money back and said have a good night I cant continue. And yes he was black probably about 30-33. With that being said i have had good and bad experiences with males of all genders and all different ages. It has been said before that we cannot please everybody and sometimes people just don't connect on that level..
Back to the business aspect of this discussion.... It IS A BUSINESS. We choose our own hours , have expenses, hire drivers/security, pay for taxis , and of course our own personal expenses. While some days are better than others there are days where we do LOSE revenue because sometimes it is just dead and that happens with any business. Making the assumption that because an escort puts no black guys on her ad means she is pimped out - is just plain wrong. While this may be true in some cases you may never actually know until you meet the provider.
I think at the end of the day it really comes down to this..RESPECT. If you don't respect the lady you are seeing or are rude during the text message part - ask yourself - would you see someone who is rude to you or degrading you? Not a lot of you will answer this but I'm sure your wouldn't. It works both ways. You have to respectful to have a good time and if not then well another saying is you get what you pay for.
To the black gents on this board - i have no problem with black people . My cousins are half black and i have tons of friends of that ethnicity. However professionally i have chosen to not see black gents under 40. At the end of the day it is always the ladys decision. It is what makes her comfortable, safe and secure. It has nothing to do with the skin color.
Happy hobbying gents.
Back to the business aspect of this discussion.... It IS A BUSINESS. We choose our own hours , have expenses, hire drivers/security, pay for taxis , and of course our own personal expenses. While some days are better than others there are days where we do LOSE revenue because sometimes it is just dead and that happens with any business. Making the assumption that because an escort puts no black guys on her ad means she is pimped out - is just plain wrong. While this may be true in some cases you may never actually know until you meet the provider.
I think at the end of the day it really comes down to this..RESPECT. If you don't respect the lady you are seeing or are rude during the text message part - ask yourself - would you see someone who is rude to you or degrading you? Not a lot of you will answer this but I'm sure your wouldn't. It works both ways. You have to respectful to have a good time and if not then well another saying is you get what you pay for.
To the black gents on this board - i have no problem with black people . My cousins are half black and i have tons of friends of that ethnicity. However professionally i have chosen to not see black gents under 40. At the end of the day it is always the ladys decision. It is what makes her comfortable, safe and secure. It has nothing to do with the skin color.
Happy hobbying gents.
