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Does the 'No Black Gentleman' policy make you rethink visiting a SP?

See thread title....

  • I rethink, but visit anyway.

    Votes: 8 6.0%
  • I avoid.

    Votes: 28 21.1%
  • Makes no difference for me... I'll visit.

    Votes: 97 72.9%

  • Total voters
    133
  • Poll closed .
Feb 19, 2015
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Just a question.
If ebony girl (I saw it on BP several times) has this "no black gentlemen" in her ad, is she racist?
 

Toke

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Just thought I'd add to this to state 'why' I started a poll.

1. Many say that ladies have this provision because they're simply not attracted to black men. If that's the case, better for me. Don't want to book with someone who is turned off at first sight. Thanks for stating it before I waste my time and $$$.

2. Others also state that it's because they're pimped. If that is the case then I don't want to visit any ladies that may be forced to work, so thanks again!

3. Some also state that those ladies are scammers and are afraid of potentially scamming a black male and him becoming violent. If they are scammers, thank you for not scamming me.

The reason I started the poll was to see if any other gents use the same reasoning and avoid them.
 

tombrady12

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It's not as you might think. Your comment would suggest both a low opinion of male clients ( as to think most are chud like) and girls more/less dislike the work.
Many girls I've worked with, including myself are very attracted to people they meet. Hence, jrobertson is correct in thinking some connections will see different outcomes. I recall you for example, having seen me, and would describe you as attractive, and somewhat shy.

Now while the 'black' issue is a sensitive topic, it shouldn't be taken as an offensive one if girls would better word it. I'm going on a limb with saying 100% of the SPs suggesting no black clients, have no issue with black men in general.
What they are trying to avoid, are thugs. In this age, that's a bad stereotype, because many males ( Indian, White, Asian ) have embraced that look and culture.

Not a girl on the planet with half a brain will refuse a well dressed, well groomed man regardless of ethnicity. Any girl I've talked to that has refused, is basing it off that thug look, nothing else.
Believe me when I say with most, Its a safety issue, not a racial one.
I was turned away at the door by an SP, who texted me later to say that she doesn't see black guys. I was wearing a suit, so that throws your theory out the window.
 

tombrady12

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Just thought I'd add to this to state 'why' I started a poll.

1. Many say that ladies have this provision because they're simply not attracted to black men. If that's the case, better for me. Don't want to book with someone who is turned off at first sight. Thanks for stating it before I waste my time and $$$.

2. Others also state that it's because they're pimped. If that is the case then I don't want to visit any ladies that may be forced to work, so thanks again!

3. Some also state that those ladies are scammers and are afraid of potentially scamming a black male and him becoming violent. If they are scammers, thank you for not scamming me.

The reason I started the poll was to see if any other gents use the same reasoning and avoid them.
You forgot 4) Girl doesn't want to get "tired out" after getting railed by black guy with a big dick. This was an actual excuse used by an agency in a similar thread here a few months back about why some of their girls (one in particular) don't see black guys.
 

tombrady12

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I'm not discounting your experience tombrady but I have it as you painting the theory with one swipe of a brush. Perhaps the one you attempted to visit was/is racist. To say the entire theory is thrown out the window from that one experience from one person... IDK.
Pretty ironic that you say that I'm painting everyone with the same brush when that's exactly what these girls are doing lol Like Dawn Lee said... Ignorant. Who's throwing out an entire theory? If you read what I posted initially, I said there are likely many reasons why girls don't see black guys, but to rule out racism is silly. As far as a girl being hesitant to see black men because of previous bad experiences, do you think that she would stop seeing white men if she had a similar bad experience? 0. %. Chance
 

Jiffypop69

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Are there any theories regarding conditioning, or pardon me, herd mentality ?
Girl reads ads, sees 50% or more ads with "no blacks" descriptors, and perhaps just copies what others are saying ?
Maybe some SPs think that by posting "no blacks" in their ads is a marketing tool of sorts... that non blacks will somehow be more my likely to book... sad either way.
 

Smallcock

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actually one more point i have to make: this day and age, it's basically pretty ignorant to think that all people of a certain race will look or be a certain way, even given the physical similarities you see shared among people of the same race. there will always be an outlier because genetics will manifest itself in interesting ways sometimes. in 50 years, everyone's going to be mixed anyway, so this differentiation will only get more pointless as time goes on.
It's going to be a lot longer than 50 years, but it is true that where people of various backgrounds co-exist they will invariably become completely mixed over time. Perhaps in a few hundred years western nations (e.g. Canada, US, England, France, Germany) may become majority mixed populations, but I suspect it will be many thousands of years before the same happens in the rest of the world - Mexico, China, Japan, India, Eastern Europe, Africa.
 

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I said in the past that every SP should take a few minutes to meet with all new clients in a safe place in order to judge for herself if she would be ok with seeing him and IMO should not charge for this meeting (cost of coffee/food to be covered by client of course). Obviously a few people said that makes little sense as it would just waste time/money. My argument is a low volume provider probably has more time than we think or she'll admit. I would think a provider who restricts herself to 1 to 2 clients per day may be able to do this. It can easily be put into the "marketing" category and would be the cost of doing business (there's no cost because the assumption is she's not bumping clients to take these meetings). The obvious problem is a bunch of guys showing up to spend time with a girl and wasting their time (in the MP world there are guys who spend hours literally going from MP to MP only to see girls in the lineup and not stay). Unfortunately it may be difficult to filter out these guys.

There is one SP I saw who listed a mandatory coffee date (at a lower rate of $100 for 30-60 min) before seeing a person in private. On some level I think that makes so much sense. Of course, the skeptic in me pities the guys who go to this meeting and don't pass the test. So the question you have to ask is are you willing to gamble $100? A guy with excess funds probably would but those with limited resources probably wouldn't. I think another SP does something similar but then turns around and credits the social date price against the GFE price so at least there's that.

People cite prior negative incidents as a reason some girls won't see black clients. I may buy this for a seasoned SP but there are 18 and 19 year olds who also list this as a restriction so I don't think prior experience is the real reason.

Unfortunately there is a clear double standard when it comes to race. I'm sure there are girls who basically want to see white clients only. They rule out blacks because of thugs and potential violence, Indians because of smell and cheapness, etc. Last time I checked, there were white guys that are violent, white guys with terrible hygiene/odour, etc. Yet a girl will indicate she doesn't see certain races due to certain notions/stereotype but will continue to see white guys even after a negative experience.
 

wigglee

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actually one more point i have to make: this day and age, it's basically pretty ignorant to think that all people of a certain race will look or be a certain way, even given the physical similarities you see shared among people of the same race. there will always be an outlier because genetics will manifest itself in interesting ways sometimes. in 50 years, everyone's going to be mixed anyway, so this differentiation will only get more pointless as time goes on.
A girl has to entertain a stranger in private. This is a vulnerable position. Apparently some of them feel the odds of getting hurt, ripped off or otherwise abused is higher with the male black population. If you think that is silly and groundless, go drive cab for a few years at night, and report back to us.
 

frankcastle

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I said no difference. But I have a feeling that some do this out of racist thug/pimp stereotypes but don't have experience to back it up. But not saying they need to be burned to be cautious. Their body, their rules..... so like it or not.... really not our problem.
 

Smallcock

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I remember doing work for 2 ladies years ago who had a no black policy based on one incident each. They each ended up being assaulted by multiple White men after that. A no White policy wasn't erected thereafter. Make of that what you will. Money talks, bullshit walks.
If 90% of her clients are white and 10% are black, and she is assaulted by a white guy and a black guy, the ratio of assaults from each group differ substantially. From whom the bulk of money is made also differs substantially.

It seems that agency girls rarely have such a policy perhaps because they are safer having the protection and support provided by the agency and the network of girls they work with.
 

ittosai

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For all of you lofty, high-brow morons out there who snipe from a distant.
Y'all don't know black people.
There's "black people", and then there's straight up niggas.
"Black people" are wonderful human beings who deserve all the freedoms of any citizen.
But then there's brothers out there who have no regard for human life.
And I'm guessing some of these girls may have had to deal with some of these less savoury folk.
Those of you who have rolled with these guys know exactly what I'm saying, the rest of you can live through headline news.
 

canada-man

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If you don't normally dress like that maybe you should.

i for one am sick of seeing you people walking around with your pants hanging down past your ass.
define you people?
 
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