Who in the Trump campaign has been pegged as a foreign agent?Exposing somebody as a foreign agent is not wrong.
Who in the Trump campaign has been pegged as a foreign agent?Exposing somebody as a foreign agent is not wrong.
Same FSB that is the information source of the Steele Dossier?Yes it is, undermining a US election by criminal acts against a presidential candidate. Do you really want to see the FSB becoming effectively a superpac with spies and a goal of making policy that is in Russian interests?
Which shows that Trump is potentially a foreign agent?Same FSB that is the information source of the Steele Dossier?
No. The only thing the dossier had was innuendo and salacious rumor. So bad even CNN declined to post it.Which shows that Trump is potentially a foreign agent?
Again, when we get intel on the enemy, that's a good thing. When the enemy uses espionage against us, that's bad.
Which side are you on? Are you on the side of the FSB or the USA? Please don't cop out and say Canadian, in that case you should exit this debate.
I don't know whether Trump is a foreign agent and neither do you, that's the subject of ongoing investigation. We do know that several members of his campaign team were foreign agents, and they have been forced to register as foreign agents now. Kushner and Manafort seem to have actively engaged in collusion with a foreign spy agency, along with Don Jr., and it's likely that the instance we know about (where they failed to get information) is only one of their many attempts at collusion--hopefully Mueller will get to the bottom of it. The question is what Trump himself knew about all of this and when he knew it. Did he know about these things when he decided to fire Comey, hoping to prevent them from coming to light? That's obstruction of justice.No. The only thing the dossier had was innuendo and salacious rumor. So bad even CNN declined to post it.
The FSB is filled with propaganda liars. Why do you only believe them when Trump is the target?
Your contention that Trump is a foreign agent is laughable. Truly laughable. If that is the basis for your argument then really you are in Canada Man territory of conspiracy theory.
Or as you like to say......Kooky!
That argument has been used over and over and over and each and every time has been shown to be without merit. The investigation is ongoing and there is no obligation for the investigative teams to give us updates at any time. The only obligation is to give us the final conclusions once they have "fully completed" their investigation. Got it?No basis for the investigation to begin with either. 6 months and ... nothing. The investigation is simply there to drag on and on as long as possible.
Wrong!!! Conspiracy to murder, i.e. planning to murder, is a crime whether or not the murder occurred or if the attempt failed.Conspired is again the wrong word. Something needs to happen. Nothing occured at the meeting. It was a failure.
Yup. And I've said so repeatedly.I don't know whether Trump is a foreign agent and neither do you, that's the subject of ongoing investigation. We do know that several members of his campaign team were foreign agents, and they have been forced to register as foreign agents now. Kushner and Manafort seem to have actively engaged in collusion with a foreign spy agency, along with Don Jr., and it's likely that the instance we know about (where they failed to get information) is only one of their many attempts at collusion--hopefully Mueller will get to the bottom of it. The question is what Trump himself knew about all of this and when he knew it. Did he know about these things when he decided to fire Comey, hoping to prevent them from coming to light? That's obstruction of justice.
But here's the question:
Do you support the ongoing investigation to find out what's true and what isn't? Or do you want to see Trump wielding that pardon power as a shield to stop any/all investigation into wrongoing by him and his team? That smells like a dictatorship, and I think everyone should be united in denouncing it, as the ultimate check on an abuse like that is massive public condemnation.
Yup. Only receiving opposition research isn't a crime. That's why conspired is the wrong word. There was no crime.Wrong!!! Conspiracy to murder, i.e. planning to murder, is a crime whether or not the murder occurred or if the attempt failed.
He has no idea what's going on in Fly over territory.What I say Fuji is that you completely and totally underestimate the level of discontent in the American body politic. This makes me think that you are not or are long since past being someone with direct contact with "blue collar" or lower "white collar" folks.
I'm not sure how that relates to the topic. We aren't talking about his politics. We are talking about him obstructing justice and colluding with foreign agents. That really is pretty independent of his politics, ANY politicians who does that should be prosecuted, regardless of who they represent.What I say Fuji is that you completely and totally underestimate the level of discontent in the American body politic. This makes me think that you are not or are long since past being someone with direct contact with "blue collar" or lower "white collar" folks.
Receiving information from a foreign national for the purpose of influencing an election is. That kind of research is not permitted.Yup. Only receiving opposition research isn't a crime. That's why conspired is the wrong word. There was no crime.
Actually you are wrong. Receiving monetary help is. Information isn't.Receiving information from a foreign national for the purpose of influencing an election is. That kind of research is not permitted.
So you think it's A-OK for Trump and his campaign to collaborate with Russian spies in order to harm the Democratic party?Actually you are wrong. Receiving monetary help is. Information isn't.
Or the Steele Dossier and it's release is the height of that. And paid for as well by both the GoP and the Dems. and almost by the FBI.
Sorry dude. It's legal. That's been established. The law does not provide for this.
Perhaps when you answer if you think the Steele Dossier qualifies I may think about it.So you think it's A-OK for Trump and his campaign to collaborate with Russian spies in order to harm the Democratic party?
Start you answer with yes or no.
Actually the law says "a thing of value", not just money. It will be up to real lawyers to determine if the hacked information constitutes a gift in kind.Actually you are wrong. Receiving monetary help is. Information isn't. ...
Because of precedent numerous experts have said the information doesn't count. Because doing so would be a first amendment violation. That dog is dead. The argument put forth and denied.Actually the law says "a thing of value", not just money. It will be up to real lawyers to determine if the hacked information constitutes a gift in kind.
Up until now "a thing of value" has always been held to be nothing besides money.Actually the law says "a thing of value", not just money. It will be up to real lawyers to determine if the hacked information constitutes a gift in kind.
I've already told you I don't think it qualifies, I think when our side exposes foreign traitors it's a good thing, and I'm all in favour of whatever means result in traitors being exposed.Perhaps when you answer if you think the Steele Dossier qualifies I may think about it.
You've been avoiding this for awhile. Because both GoP and Dems paid to do just that against Trump.