Uh -oh - Traitor Trump asked lawyers if he can pardon, family, friends and himself
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As she refuses to lay down and die one needs to be on guard. There isn't anything more important to the safety of the world then keeping her away from power.
Actually the only proven collusion with Russian spies is the paid for one of the Steele Dossier.
But you keep on avoiding that topic. Just like everyone else.
Nope. Jr has admitted it and posted evidence implicating Manafort and Kushner.
As for this dossier, when WE hack them it's a good thing. You have to figure out which side you're on. Western spies infiltrating and stealing intelligence from the Russians is a win. The Russians doing it to us is a loss.
That's the level of "evidence" that Trump and the alt-right use against Hillary. How many posts have we seen about Hillary's world control conspiracy?
But the reality, asking if he can pardon himself suggests he expects charges and conviction. More likely based on Trump's typical actions, he want's to 'pardon' himself before any charges or even the investigation moves on just so people stop talking about it.
Funny that in a thread about Trump and Russians you bring up money laundering accusations.
And of course it is amusing that you are sticking to this Hillary money laundering claims despite admitting in other threads you have no evidenciary basis for it.
Yep, because Trump has been acting against big corporations and Wall Street (by hiring them)?
I see. Attempting to conspire isn't a problem for you. And then you pull a fox news and go on to claim that even if something happened it was okay.
Lol. It wasn't a hack. Steele supposedly asked for and received the information. And eventually released it. After being commissioned to do so by both Democrats AND Republicans.
That's the amazing part. Both parties and the FBI all knew it came from Russian sources. And considered it at first a valid "opposition research". It's only the fact it's basically proven false that it wasn't released as widely.
So really there is no difference. Well except that when the information was released it hurt the Trump campaign.
So who used Russia fake news now?
No. I have consistently said it's ethically wrong. In several posts.
But it isn't legally wrong. And when no charges come up I will continue to be right.
The politicians have set the laws up so this is legal. All these commissions and investigations are a show. A nice scripted "reality show".
Notice that I dont participate in those "Hilary is the anti christ " threads either? Its because they are idiotic.
This thread is similar, but here you are trying to find legitimacy out of a farce. If you want to claim that you are better than the alt right, then prove it by being the bigger man. Dont wade around in the cesspool and declare yourself above it.
Basically yes before articles of impeachment (on anyone holding office) are passed. Then again it is important to note that while accepting a pardon pre-conviction may in many cases be quite wise, at the same time the acceptance of a pardon is an admission of guilt.
You need to figure out which side you are on. There's a qualitative difference between exposing somebody as a foreign agent, and being a foreign agent.
It's never going to be acceptable to collude with foreign spies against your own country. It is always going to be acceptable to expose those who do that.
Back in the thread topic:
Can you imagine the uproar if instead of letting the investigation into Clinton run its course Obama had started using pardons to stop any investigation into anyone remotely connected to his administration?
If Trump does this he needs to be impeached for this reason alone.
Can you imagine the uproar if instead of letting the investigation into Clinton run its course Obama had started using pardons to stop any investigation into anyone remotely connected to his administration?
If Trump does this he needs to be impeached for this reason alone.
So do you. GoP and Dem agents colluded with a foreign agent to obtain FsB documents to subvert the election. Against Trump. If that doesn't define foreign influence what does?
And your hyperbole about this somehow being about treason has just become silly. No one else is going close to there. The treason is only in your own imagination.
But there is the heart of the matter. Clearly exposing defence secrets is against your own county, but is saying I wish I had dirt on my opponent acting against your own country? That seems to be far from clear cut and has very political overtones.
