As long as you're happy with changing your goal line.
But why should all those other Christians have to pay for religious education on top of their property taxes but Catholics get special treatment?
Peel school board: Outraged parents rip Koran
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But why should all those other Christians have to pay for religious education on top of their property taxes but Catholics get special treatment?
For one, Canada is -- like it or not, take it or leave it -- a country founded on Christian principles where the vast majority of citizens are Christians,' Yes, there's separation of church and state but even that was a principle founded by Christians and Christianity.
Contrary to popular belief, Catholics were never the only religious group in Ontario that were afforded the right to establish their own publicly-funded schools; the Protestants also do. In fact, Penetanguishine has the Penetanguishene Protestant Separate School Board, which is also publicly funded. It just so happens that Protestants never expanded throughout the province in the same way the Catholics did.
The Catholic school board is NOT exclusionary. Atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims are welcome to go to a Catholic school. Muslims have prayer rooms in Catholic high schools.
Interesting.
Never knew about that one. Apparently it is the only one in Ontario. Wikipedia mentions that the public school boards were actually originally protestant, and turned secular over time, so this may be a holdout. Ie not a constitutionally guaranteed school like the Catholic system, but just a remnant and treated as a separate school.
You do realize that your examples are from the past. The Protestant school board in Ontario is now the non-denominational public board where the only religious education is in a comparative religion course. Not that I'm anywhere near religious but if I wanted to make sure my (nonexistent) children got an Anglican education like my Nana always wanted me to have, I would need to pay for it on top of regular school taxes.
And yes, the Catholic school board has an enshrined right to exclude other religions from elementary schools and the right to exclude non-practicing Catholics from working there. They will overlook that possibility if they can't get enough enrollment or can't find qualified staff but they have that right. And yes, many Catholic school boards require documentation from a Priest to accept elementary kids and staff.
The schools are forced to accept non-Catholics but those students still have to accept the Catholic religion courses and preaching; they don't have the option of preaching in their own religion or in most places even opting out of the classes.
In an effort to make sure that the minority Catholics had their religious rights protected from the majority, the BNA gave legal protections. Now though, Catholics have rights that the majority of Christians don't have.
if you are not catholic only way to get a job is if therr are no qualified catholics ahead of you
Correct.
The Catholic special status is the thin edge of the wedge. Let's have one public system and keep all religious practice out of it.
I know that was a joke, but misinformation is not that funny . M-103 is neither a bill nor a law and there are no police to enforce its' rulings that do not exist. But thanks for the semi-amusing alternate facts.
I remember listening to my pastor preach against homosexuality 30 years ago, warning that if people didn't speak up against it now, sooner or later gays would be allowed to sue any church or organization that discriminated against them, and we'd have to accept gay teachers in our schools and gay pastors in our pulpits.
Looks like he nailed it.
I should point out that Christians don't hate gays because they're gay. They're opposed to anything that contributes to the breakdown of the 'family', which by their definition is one man married to one woman, who produce children from their union. When the traditional family breaks down, society as a whole breaks down. That's what they're trying to protect.
The history of Canada was founded by the Christian faith and in my life time it's worked out for over 100 years.
I grew up in the peel school board and it shouldn't have to change a thing or have to change the legislation for these savages.
I getting fed up with people trying to destroy our way of life here.
I grew up in the peel school board and it shouldn't have to change a thing or have to change the legislation for these savages.
I getting fed up with people trying to destroy our way of life here.
A lot has changed in 100 years.
And to be clear all that changed was that the "savages (horrible choice of words)" were allowed to us a room for prayers on their own time (i.e. not during class). That is hardly destroying the Canadian fabric of society.
I'm sure if another religious group asked for a room they would get it too.
Try applying to teach for the catholic board. If you are a non catholic your chances are slim.
Unless I'm reading more into his handle than I should, I think he has some pretty extreme ideas about who should be allowed to do what, where.
But I could be wrong of course.
I kind of understand why the parents are so mad ...
Even though it is a PUBLIC school . The definition of public school is State-funded provincial schools (which are Roman Catholic public schools), according to a google definition.
This is probably causing havoc because since they are allowing muslims to pray whenever they want in the school & that gives them special treatment. In Canada we have already agreed to some of their demands
1.) allowing muslim woman to wear the barka (full body coverage incuding hair and face ( excluding the eyes of course))
2.) allowing muslim woman to wear the hijab ( head cover/hair cover)
3.) They come to Canada for better jobs, education etc which we provide them
4.) We allow muslim organizations
5.) we have muslim restaurants (hilal / zabihah)
6.) We have religious temples for muslims to pray and practice their religion.
7.) we respect their religious practices/ dietary restrictions
8.) we have hilal meat available in almost every grocery store.
Those are eight things I was able to find on google that Canada already does for the muslim population of Canada.
While I am not condoning them ripping a holy book ( kuran) , since they allow this in public schools I cant help but wonder. How long until this is allowed in catholic schools?
And if , and its a really big if, it is allowed in catholic schools does that mean that catholic religious symbols will be taken down ? Will murals of our faith be painted over?
I'm on the fence here because I attended catholic schools all my life and relgion was important but it definetly wasn't the main thing we focused on. When I went to catholic schools in elementary they explained to us that their are many religions but because we were so young and in elementary the only one we really focused on was Catholicism and then as we entered grade 8 /9 we were introdcuded to more relgions. Finally in grade 12 I took a course called world relgions which was mandatory because of the catholic school system and it focused on every single religion from budhism to Sikhism as well as hindu, muslim ,protestant and atheist & Christianity.
I think the people could have reacted a little differently and it was definetly unacceptable.
Now heres a question for you fine gentleman. If we start giving into the demands of muslims now like we keep on doing how long before the muslim relgion / faith takes over Canada?
Would that mean Christianity/ catholicsm will die out in the school systems?
I understand how that sounds and i apologize if i offend anybody in advance but one can only help but wonder?
Even though it is a PUBLIC school . The definition of public school is State-funded provincial schools (which are Roman Catholic public schools), according to a google definition.
This is probably causing havoc because since they are allowing muslims to pray whenever they want in the school & that gives them special treatment. In Canada we have already agreed to some of their demands
1.) allowing muslim woman to wear the barka (full body coverage incuding hair and face ( excluding the eyes of course))
2.) allowing muslim woman to wear the hijab ( head cover/hair cover)
3.) They come to Canada for better jobs, education etc which we provide them
4.) We allow muslim organizations
5.) we have muslim restaurants (hilal / zabihah)
6.) We have religious temples for muslims to pray and practice their religion.
7.) we respect their religious practices/ dietary restrictions
8.) we have hilal meat available in almost every grocery store.
Those are eight things I was able to find on google that Canada already does for the muslim population of Canada.
While I am not condoning them ripping a holy book ( kuran) , since they allow this in public schools I cant help but wonder. How long until this is allowed in catholic schools?
And if , and its a really big if, it is allowed in catholic schools does that mean that catholic religious symbols will be taken down ? Will murals of our faith be painted over?
I'm on the fence here because I attended catholic schools all my life and relgion was important but it definetly wasn't the main thing we focused on. When I went to catholic schools in elementary they explained to us that their are many religions but because we were so young and in elementary the only one we really focused on was Catholicism and then as we entered grade 8 /9 we were introdcuded to more relgions. Finally in grade 12 I took a course called world relgions which was mandatory because of the catholic school system and it focused on every single religion from budhism to Sikhism as well as hindu, muslim ,protestant and atheist & Christianity.
I think the people could have reacted a little differently and it was definetly unacceptable.
Now heres a question for you fine gentleman. If we start giving into the demands of muslims now like we keep on doing how long before the muslim relgion / faith takes over Canada?
Would that mean Christianity/ catholicsm will die out in the school systems?
I understand how that sounds and i apologize if i offend anybody in advance but one can only help but wonder?
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If he's here representing the KKK, I have to agree.
If he's merely a Lord of the Rings fan ... maybe we are misunderstanding what he meant, and he'd like to elaborate.
Back when I was in church, they hadn't invented IVF yet, surrogate parenting was rare and I guess the population explosion hadn't worsened to the present point yet.
I think they envisioned a future society full of broken families with confused children who don't know what's 'normal' anymore.
Hmmm ... ...
the over population myth was invented by the club of rome. there is no overpopulation problem
http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-population-control-holocaust
this has roots in the eugenics movement
