Guys...this has been discussed ad nauseam...SPs set their rates and clients choose them or do not...let it go.Was thinking the same thing. To each his own but are guys really lining up to pay those rates?
There are a few other "tells" that make this look like a shill review, other than a poster with a single post (this one) who joined 3 days ago. First is that it is in a new thread rather than contributing to an existing thread, of which there are 2 in this case to choose from, a legit new member will likely contribute to an existing thread and 2) The provider in question has linked to this new review.I find these shill review accusations kind of paranoid. Not saying it isn't possible, but why wouldn't someone make an account here after having a positive experience with an SP, literally the entire reason for this board? All the more weird when new posters who join and don't immediately post a review get accused of being a leech who need to "contribute".
Huh? How does "Thiis" explain "that"...and I have no idea what "that" refers to...There are several reviews, which the proviider asks to vet first...whch is totally fine.On her web page, under "etiquette", one can read "I have a NO REVIEW POLICY unless I ask you directly for a review..." This can explain that.
"that" refers to a shill reviewHuh? How does "Thiis" explain "that"...and I have no idea what "that" refers to...There are several reviews, which the proviider asks to vet first...whch is totally fine.
Welcome to the board S85...We look forward to further contributions from you! Was Ella you first experience? If not, who else can you recommend?To be clear, I did see Ella and everything I wrote is true. I did think she had a no review policy but you may notice that a few days ago she tweeted that her review policy is somewhat misunderstood, she allows reviews but asks that we let her know. Based on that tweet I contacted her prior to writing the review. I thoroughly enjoyed my time and felt that if I could positively (and accurately) say that in a review then I would be happy to do so. To be honest, I do not frequent this board a lot so perhaps I should have checked in advance where/how to post properly. At the core, I had a wonderful time with a wonderful lady.
Based on who is charging what rates, there is clearly a difference. Whether it is just pure demand, looks, attitude (some guys clearly want the GFE to the letter, and that takes way more emotional energy then just providing service), or even availability, as getting to be with someone who only does this on rare occasions is enticing.I see it more like Starbucks vs. Starbucks or Porsche vs. Porsche. Either way I'm getting Starbucks and Porsche, so why pay twice as much for the same thing? Having said that, I don't care what others do, I just don't understand why.
Based on who is charging what rates, there is clearly a difference. Whether it is just pure demand, looks, attitude (some guys clearly want the GFE to the letter, and that takes way more emotional energy then just providing service), or even availability, as getting to be with someone who only does this on rare occasions is enticing.
Or at least that is based on my limited experience. Ella is out of my price range, but I don't begrudge that because clearly enough clients think she is worth it.
You know Ryan, I agree with you. This thread is becoming tasteless. Not to mention, it's supposed to be a review thread of Ella Black. I have deleted my previous posts.FFS guys...please stop comparing human beings to cars, coffee or fucking jeans! Of course you can get a GFE experience at half the price...everybody can...Every thread where a higher priced provider is discussed we get people beating their chests with "I would never pay that" and "That is way overpriced"...let it go...we get it.
Way out of my price range, and I suspect most folks' price ranges too. If she's within your price range, then you'll have to TOFTT.
excellent post....no one was boasting about paying this or that price...it is merely stating fact that you can be provided with excellent services for a reasonable price and while Ryan might think it is useless to him to discuss this, it may be otherwise for others who seldom visit this page or are plainly newbies looking for information, this board provides that information for those seeking it contrary to Rosie who only allows limited contribution....no one was comparing Ella to a car, coffee or jeans..just stating an analogy that you can get as good a service for a lesser price. Now she is entitled to charge whatever fee she deems appropriate for her services, it is her right, i respect that and good for her if she has a niche clientele, i'm sure she is an awesome lady....While I don't always agree with people who scoff at the price, I fully support their right to discuss it. When you are an indy charging well above the indy rates, you should expect to generate some discussion in an online forum. While the price banter is not helpful to me or other seasoned members, I suspect it maybe helpful for newer people or those who aren't on here that often.
I remember when I first started hobbying I was paying $300 an hour plus tips for a cbj and 1 SOG with a "well reviewed" provider on the rosy board. I kept paying that for awhile because I thought those prices and services were the norm. Imagine my surprise when I discovered this place! I really could have benefited from the discussions here. As a new hobbyist back then this would have saved me a lot of money and gotten me better service. This is why I will always support the discussion of price and inclusion of services provided.
This is the main reason why I left the rosy boards so many years back. On this forum, we can discuss rates, services, specifics, and other things that would help other hobbyists make their decisions. When I do my reviews, I always make sure to include prices, services, looks, and details because that is what I am looking for when I do my research. I personally do not find vague reviews very helpful where there is no specifics provided. Again, if some choose to post these kinds of reviews, I respect that this is their right and that some may find it helpful.
I suspect we all want the same thing, which is happy providers and satisfied clients. Sometimes we just have different views of how to get there, and I support that. But please don't make this like the rosy board where every time someone questions a rate or a service people bring out the torches and pitchforks and crucify them for daring to say something that we may disagree with.
I respect the provider's right to charge whatever she wants, but as clients we also have rights to discuss it. Grateful for this forum and this industry, as it helped me make a lot of friends as well as enabled me to have some amazing experiences that would not have been possible.
Agree with you that Ironman1 makes a great point...we are free to discuss anything here, one of the privileges of this board...however I would not characterize a chorus of posters "stating" "that is way too high", "I can get 2 girls for that price" as "discussion ". Of course I respect everyone's right to an opinion and their right to express it. Also, a statement would be "there are providers at half the price", a chest beat would be "I can see 2 providers at that price"...there is a difference.excellent post....no one was boasting about paying this or that price...it is merely stating fact that you can be provided with excellent services for a reasonable price and while Ryan might think it is useless to him to discuss this, it may be otherwise for others who seldom visit this page or are plainly newbies looking for information, this board provides that information for those seeking it contrary to Rosie who only allows limited contribution....no one was comparing Ella to a car, coffee or jeans..just stating an analogy that you can get as good a service for a lesser price. Now she is entitled to charge whatever fee she deems appropriate for her services, it is her right, i respect that and good for her if she has a niche clientele, i'm sure she is an awesome lady....