Malcoln Hoenlein

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He makes many good points. One point is that anti-semitism does not get any attention because Jews aren't Muslims. Has anybody said "let's go hug a Jew"?
Anti-semitism doesn't get any attention?
Are you serious?
 

K Douglas

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I don't feel the need to pick between them. Both are reprehensible.
And one happens significantly more frequently than the other. can you guess which one?
 

oldjones

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And one happens significantly more frequently than the other. can you guess which one?
Isn't that a bit like being asked to pick whether rape with arm-twisting is more frequent than rape with punching? Or decide whether tit-squeezing is worse than pussy-grabbing based on numbers? Will there be a Follow-up?

By all means pick your preferred form of bigotry to actively campaign against, but tell us what your statistical headcount is supposed to achieve before asking us to join in handicapping the result. Anyway, the President's already said "Anti-Semitism is bad! VERY BAD!". And asked Rudy Juliani to write up a Muslim travel ban than didn't look like a Muslim travel ban.

Is someone afraid to say anti-jewish prejudice is what we should all worry about and to drop the Islamic thing?

All bad, any time, all the time. No favourites allowed.
 

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By now most people realize that anti-semitism isn't acceptable. Those who still hold those views have realized that hey need to tone it down (or use code words like 'zionist'). On the other hand, there are still a large number of people who hate/fear Muslims out of ignorance while the truly disgusting people are unafraid to speak up publicly. That make sit important to speak up about anti-Muslim statements to educate and suppress the hate-filled creeps.

Sadly the current political environment down south has made people hating both feel more accepted (as well as anti-hispanic, anti-black, and anti-immigrant views).
 

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And one happens significantly more frequently than the other. can you guess which one?
Both happen to be much more prevalent than hate against other religions. They are the #1 and #2 most victimized by religious hate crime, who cares about the order of 1 and 2?

I have no problem severely condemning both. Don't you?
 

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Are you guys saying that Christians are not the most hated religious group in Canada, Western Europe and all Islamic counties?
 

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By now most people realize that anti-semitism isn't acceptable. Those who still hold those views have realized that hey need to tone it down (or use code words like 'zionist'). On the other hand, there are still a large number of people who hate/fear Muslims out of ignorance while the truly disgusting people are unafraid to speak up publicly. That make sit important to speak up about anti-Muslim statements to educate and suppress the hate-filled creeps.

Sadly the current political environment down south has made people hating both feel more accepted (as well as anti-hispanic, anti-black, and anti-immigrant views).
You got that right, most of the anti Israel posts here are fueled by antisemitism. Zionist is the code word for Jew or Jews.
 

oldjones

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Are you guys saying that Christians are not the most hated religious group in Canada, Western Europe and all Islamic counties?
Christianity is far and away the most popular religion in Canada and Western Europe in terms of numbers. The term 'Islamic' countries suggest it isn't so popular there; for some reason it never seemed to catch on where it was born. And the viciousness of the later Crusader invasions didn't increase its appeal for the locals.

Perhaps you'd get closer to the sort of answer you're after if you told us how we're supposed to quantify your "…most hated" religion. Did you have some sort of bitterness scale in mind?
 

SkyRider

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Christianity is far and away the most popular religion in Canada and Western Europe in terms of numbers. The term 'Islamic' countries suggest it isn't so popular there; for some reason it never seemed to catch on where it was born.
Muslim conquerors forced the locals to convert Islam or be killed. Many countries were happily non-Muslim before they were conquered by Muslims. Take Iran as an example. Great non-Muslim civilization until the Persians were conquered by Arab Muslims.

p.s. President Trump gave a speech to-day condemning anti-semitism.
 

oldjones

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Muslim conquerors forced the locals to convert Islam or be killed. Many countries were happily non-Muslim before they were conquered by Muslims. Take Iran as an example. Great non-Muslim civilization until the Persians were conquered by Arab Muslims.

p.s. President Trump gave a speech to-day condemning anti-semitism.
Your example would be somewhat more persuasive if Iran wasn't so clearly committed to Islam now. Religions come and go and always have. European Christians have certainly done their share of converting by bloodshed. And those folks who haven't switched allegiance to some new invisible —or visible — being or beings are mostly contentedly Jesus worshippers now. Which is not to say Zoroastrians were ever actually exterminated in Iran, or Albigensians in Provence.

Are you really trying to support the merits of your guy's speech by citing events from 600 AD? The slaughters of Spanish Muslims — and Jews whom the Muslims had tolerated — and their pillagingin the Reconquista that financed Columbus are much closer to contemporary relevance.
 
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