I knew the murdered doctor and her murderer doctor husband

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I took BJJ with her (Toronto BJJ) and also was her running buddy.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/toront...surgeon-husband-charged-with-murder-1.3187968

her husband was also in our BJJ school (I didn't see him much) and their two beautiful girls were also students.

She just had a third baby and was working hard to lose the baby weight.I think her youngest in under 18 mths,

What has everyone freaked out is there seemed to be no trouble at home at all. The kids were happy and she would not shut up about him. She's used to gush about him like you wouldn't believe. The last time I ran with her was just 2 days before Halloween and I even joked if she had finished her shrine to her husband. Nov. has been a rough month for her. She said she was "busy with work" but some thing was wrong. She seemed distant and distracted but the interaction between her and the husband was always jovial.

It has us all freaked out. Any one else train at TorontoBJJ?? The rumors floating around are brutal and I hope they are not true.
 

franci

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According to news reports she had filed for divorce earlier. Things are not always what they appear to be I guess.
 
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According to news reports she had filed for divorce earlier. Things are not always what they appear to be I guess.

Yeah,I read that. She never mentioned it to me. I was pretty close to her, not super close but we talked about intimate stuff and I would say 50% of any conversation with her was how great her husband was.It.It was non stop.
 

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I know a few people who worked with the guy, but the one's I've spoken to are not saying much today. Maybe after a few holiday party drinks.

You have to admit that the guy looks like a straight up serial killer in most of his photos. Rasputin-like eyes, mortician-like thin face, incongruous bow tie.
 

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You have to admit that the guy looks like a straight up serial killer in most of his photos. Rasputin-like eyes, mortician-like thin face, incongruous bow tie.
CP24 interviewed a couple of his patients and they spoke well of him.

Neurosurgeons are at the top of the food chain in the medical field. Beautiful and successful wife, 3 kids, nice house. Where did it all go off the rail?
 

frankcastle

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jack dont give out so much of your personal info. if someone wanted to they might be able to cross reference your bjj and running to id you.

i noticed the bjj outfits in early pucs when story broke
 

ElCapitain

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Neurosurgeons are at the top of the food chain in the medical field. Beautiful and successful wife, 3 kids, nice house. Where did it all go off the rail?
They definitely think they are -- neurosurgeons tend to have huge egos, and are used to big-money level success early (despite the training times). But a lot of them literally have no experience of failure on any level. They moved from academia to practice with no real experience of the real world, and like this guy did, earned an "abbreviated" PhD after he was already making big bucks as a surgeon, so he had literally nothing like the traditional dark period of self-doubt in a real PhD program.

Then suddenly she presents him with divorce papers, and he snaps. He's never experienced any kind of failure before. And this? His religious upbringing kicks in at some primal level, and he just goes nuts on her. It's easy to imagine how it happened.
 

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CP24 interviewed a couple of his patients and they spoke well of him.

Neurosurgeons are at the top of the food chain in the medical field. Beautiful and successful wife, 3 kids, nice house. Where did it all go off the rail?
I guess emotions are not connected to intelligence, maybe he has drug alcohol issues or maybe its a cultural issue like an honor killing once he found out she was leaving.
 

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They definitely think they are -- neurosurgeons tend to have huge egos, and are used to big-money level success early (despite the training times). But a lot of them literally have no experience of failure on any level.
I think you have to have a huge ego to be a superstar neurosurgeon. He is a Yale graduate. Yale!

I think it is the same with superstar hockey players.

P.S. Just saw CTV interviewed former patient Derek Smith. He speaks very highly of him.
 

frankcastle

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I think you have to have a huge ego to be a superstar neurosurgeon. He is a Yale graduate. Yale!

I think it is the same with superstar hockey players.

P.S. Just saw CTV interviewed former patient Derek Smith. He speaks very highly of him.
tough to say i know a doctor at the top of his game doing cutting edge procedures, rubbing elbows woth toronto elite and he is the most laid back guy.

that said if guilty i think his ego was at fault but nit because he was a doctor
 

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Had heard about this, there is nothing I can say other than how tragic this is, and how sorry I am for their children and her family.
 

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I have always felt that once one is immersed in the bjj community, tragic results are inevitable.
 

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Then suddenly she presents him with divorce papers, and he snaps. He's never experienced any kind of failure before. And this? His religious upbringing kicks in at some primal level, and he just goes nuts on her. It's easy to imagine how it happened.

Was the guy's religious upbringing ever mentioned? I personally know
at least one non-religious guy named Mohammed. Surely non-religious
men are no less capable of wife-killing.
 

frankcastle

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Where was the guy's religious upbringing mentioned? I personally know
at least one non-religious guy named Mohammed. I suspect non-religious
men are no less capable of wife-killing.
good eye. big assumption that his unknown religious upbringing is one which celebrates murder.

i was atching a yotube video and an ad came up for ris 2016 which had sound bytes of islamic religioue figures speaking about life in north america and it is a message of peace and harmony. besides this gut could be hindu or something else or not religious.
 

ElCapitain

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besides this gut could be hindu or something
While I applaud you for being open-minded, there is a point where it is naive... if you care to do any kind of reading about the centuries-old conflict between muslims and hindus, you'll realize why no hindu family would name their son Mohammed. Same thing with sikhs, too (even moreso, actually).
 

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While it does not justify murder, on the face of it, it appears she totally used him. Got the kids she wanted, house she wanted, and just wanted to kick him out the door and as a neurosurgeon the cash would keep pouring in though child support. I guess he snapped and she did not think he would.
 
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