So you think the FBI is attacking Clinton out of spite?
And ignoring Russia trying to get Trump elected because they don't like Clinton?
James Comey FBI director reopens Clinton email investigation
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And ignoring Russia trying to get Trump elected because they don't like Clinton?
No, I think the FBI will not negotiate and request, emails, servers, honest answers, etc from Clinton or Huma as was suggested earlier in the tread because Clinton has already screwed the FBI over. The FBI will just get a warrant and take what they need going forward as they did with Wiener's computer. Lying to the FBI will get you on their radar, don' think that is spite, just the way it is.So you think the FBI is attacking Clinton out of spite?
That is speculation. Didn't the hacks begin long before Trump was nominated? Is also speculation that the Russians are pissed generally at the US and Democrats for saying Russian elections were fixed and corrupt. Trump and Clinton just happen to be running this year, which is probably a bonus and makes things that much more interesting.And ignoring Russia trying to get Trump elected because they don't like Clinton?
The speculation on Trump includes accusations that he has an active bank account with direct links to Russia, that Russia has been working on compromising Trump for 5 years which predates the wikileaks/Russian hacks and that there are direct links between Trumps call for Russia to hack Clinton and the documents leaked.That is speculation. Didn't the hacks begin long before Trump was nominated? Is also speculation that the Russians are pissed generally at the US and Democrats for saying Russian elections were fixed and corrupt. Trump and Clinton just happen to be running this year, which is probably a bonus and makes things that much more interesting.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics...ging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump
The questions about Comey are just as interesting.
https://thinkprogress.org/we-now-kn...-to-trump-and-clinton-7314d9b55cd0#.sbcxza5x0So, to summarize, when the FBI uncovered emails that they had not read, had not yet obtained a warrant to read, and had not in any way confirmed would reveal anything at all about Hillary Clinton, Comey rushed to convey this information to Clinton’s political enemies in a letter that was light on facts and easy to misrepresent to the press.
Yet, when the FBI learned that a hostile foreign power was literally trying to shape the result of the election, he opposed disclosing this information to the American people.
And yes, this is speculation, but so far everything on Clinton is also speculation.
Some good news that should put your mind at ease, seems the FBI investigated ties between Russia and Trump, and found none. Also no news that Trump lied to the FBI, deleted emails instead of turning them over, turned over a server that was wiped, etc, all good.The speculation on Trump includes.
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=1
On the other hand, there is a movie which details some of Hillary's Russian connections.
CLINTON CASH https://youtu.be/7LYRUOd_QoM
Is this enough to shut fuji/frankie up? Unlikely. The notion that Trump is somehow intermingled with Russia in any material way was so absurd to begin with.Some good news that should put your mind at ease, seems the FBI investigated ties between Russia and Trump, and found none. Also no news that Trump lied to the FBI, deleted emails instead of turning them over, turned over a server that was wiped, etc, all good.
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=1
Right, so Comey says there was no link.Some good news that should put your mind at ease, seems the FBI investigated ties between Russia and Trump, and found none. Also no news that Trump lied to the FBI, deleted emails instead of turning them over, turned over a server that was wiped, etc, all good.
Investigating Donald Trump, F.B.I. Sees No Clear Link to Russia
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=1
But Comey is now suspect.
As Slate reported.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_...p_organization_communicating_with_russia.html
Many crazy rumors being desperately thrown around now by the Clinton camp in the hopes something sticks.Is this enough to shut fuji/frankie up? Unlikely. The notion that Trump is somehow intermingled with Russia in any material way was so absurd to begin with.
They are more legit then the email rumours about Clinton at this point.Many crazy rumors being desperately thrown around now by the Clinton camp in the hopes something sticks.
In fact the Democrats filed a formal complaint. A federal employee is prohibited from using his office to influence an election. What else can you call Comey using his position as a pulpit to criticize Clinton for perfectly legal behavior?Or so you believe. The Administration seemingly disagrees with you, nor does there seem to be a groundswell in the U.S. legal community that your viewpoint is correct.
By the way two former Attorneys General and a few dozen former state Attorney Generals (most of whom are Democrats and elected or appointed on a partisan basis) is not a ground swell of the legal community.
Comey is also Russian agent?Right, so Comey says there was no link.
But Comey is now suspect.
Think is a fact that Clinton had a private email server, deleted emails, lied about receiving classified emails, wiped her private server, etc. Or are you referring only to this new specific set of emails found recently?They are more legit then the email rumours about Clinton at this point.
She didn't lie and there was nothing whatsoever illegal about what she did.Comey is also Russian agent?
Think is a fact that Clinton had a private email server, deleted emails, lied about receiving classified emails, wiped her private server, etc. Or are you referring only to this new specific set of emails found recently?
Your throwing out opinion here. Not fact. There is no factual argument he tried to influence the election. None. A few partisans don't make a case. And the President has stated his confidence in Comey.The issue is that there's a law prohibiting what he did.
Start with his previous public criticism of Clinton. It's not his place as a Federal official to criticize a candidate for President. He should have limited his statement to saying that she had not violated any law, and not gone on to share his own personal opinion about her. Calling her careless was illegal. As a Federal official he's prohibited from that kind of public comment, particularly as he used his office add FBI Director for his political agenda.
Similarly he is over the line on this matter as well, ignoring policy and advice against public comment and unwind himself as what is now the #1 issue in the campaign.
Several former Attorney Generals have said that Comey made a serious mistake in sending the letter and in fact not only violated the Hatch law by interfering in an election but also jeopardized his own investigation by putting himself in a position where he will be forced to release additional information.
So unless you are now going to say Obama is in cahoots with Trump this matter is dead on arrival.
Once the meta data shows the who what where and when's that may not be the case. They didn't have that proof because she had deleted it(or so she thought). They just may have it now.She didn't lie and there was nothing whatsoever illegal about what she did.
Except she ACTUALLY did nothing wrong. No amount of "meta data" is going to show otherwise. She used a private server. So fucking what.Once the meta data shows the who what where and when's that may not be the case. They didn't have that proof because she had deleted it(or so she thought). They just may have it now.
Because it wasn't legitimate behavior. Ask any IT security guy. Go ahead and ask any one at your office. They will all say she was stupid and reckless.In fact the Democrats filed a formal complaint. A federal employee is prohibited from using his office to influence an election. What else can you call Comey using his position as a pulpit to criticize Clinton for perfectly legal behavior?
None of this happens if she doesn't have an unsecured server in her basement.
It was in fact legitimate behavior. As in perfectly legal behavior.Because it wasn't legitimate behavior. Ask any IT security guy. Go ahead and ask any one at your office. They will all say she was stupid and reckless.
None of this happens if she doesn't have an unsecured server in her basement.
Comey has no place to go spouting his personal opinion about a Presidential candidate. He's a civil servant and it's illegal for him to do that:
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens...have-broken-law-over-clinton-emails-1.3829393
Now, dozens of former federal prosecutors are criticizing Comey's decision to bring up these emails just days before the U.S. Presidential election.
Richard Painter, chief ethics lawyer under President George W. Bush, tells As It Happens host Carol Off that he has filed an official complaint against the FBI because he believes the director may have violated U.S. law.
Richard Painter: I think this is entirely inappropriate, and I think a violation of the Hatch Act...which prohibits an executive branch official from using their official position to influence an election. And whether Director Comey wanted to influence the election or whether he's succumbing to pressure from members of Congress who want him to use his position that way -- he had no business writing that letter.
An unsecured server that had classified information on it, even after she left office.Except she ACTUALLY did nothing wrong. No amount of "meta data" is going to show otherwise. She used a private server. So fucking what.
That's fucking what. Maybe you don't care. But how can you trust the judgement of her when she denies security advice for convenience.
And if it's shown that unsecure server allowed classified information to end up on Weiner's computer, it's her fault. That simple.
None of it happens if she doesn't: have an unsecured server in her basement.
Legal? Still to be determined. Legitimate. Hardly.It was in fact legitimate behavior. As in perfectly legal behavior.
Comey has no place to go spouting his personal opinion about a Presidential candidate. He's a civil servant and it's illegal for him to do that.
No, it's not still to be determined. It's legal. She was entitled to use a private server. Fully legal.Legal? Still to be determined. Legitimate. Hardly.
There's no reason whatever to think her actions to date have been anything other than fully legal. Despite Trump parading around trying to bully his way into office the most likely outcome is another exoneration because it's just unlikely she's done anything illegal.
Maybe somebody else did. Maybe Huma sent summer stuff she shouldn't have to Weiner, but that would have no bearing on Clinton. From what we know these are at best emails Clinton sent to Huma, and since Huma is authorized, that's not a crime.
James Carville is claiming that the vast right-wing conspiracy includes the KGB.
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/carville-melts-asserts-fbi-gop-kgb-cahoots/
The total nuttiness of his comments shows just how panicked the Clinton camp is at this point. :biggrin1:
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/carville-melts-asserts-fbi-gop-kgb-cahoots/
The total nuttiness of his comments shows just how panicked the Clinton camp is at this point. :biggrin1:
